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Cruzifiction
American Vision ^ | September 13, 2014 | Joel McDurmon

Posted on 09/13/2014 10:24:21 AM PDT by all the best

Ted Cruz has made a serious mistake—one supported by sentiments of millions of American evangelicals—and it could cost the lives of many Christians.

I suppose you’ve heard by now that Ted Cruz was recently “booed off stage” for a senseless, ill-placed “stand with Israel” gaffe at a banquet for persecuted Middle East Christians. The worst part of his comments is not that they were calculated for self-serving political purposes—as others have noted already. Although that is certainly bad enough, it is hardly as offensive as the main implication of what he said. Apparently, we must agree with him, or else we are filled with hate and anti-Semitic.

When he said, “Christians have no greater ally than the Jewish state,” boos and jeers erupted from a vocal minority of the audience. It is not clear what their exact motivation or angle was, but it is clear that they did not agree fully with the political import of Cruz’s statement. The unfortunate twist came, however, with how Cruz interpreted their opposition: it has to be “hate”; it has to be “anti-semitism.”

It can’t be that Middle East Christians have a had a worse experience with Israel than the rainbows blessings Ted Cruz has learned about in some pro-“Israel” Bible study, safely tucked away in America somewhere between the pages of a Scofield Bible and a Left Behind novel, with hands laid-on by a charismatic millenarian prophesying about blessing “Abraham’s seed.” It can’t be that Middle East Christians are stuck in a much messier political scenario than is convenient for American evangelicals to comprehend within the box of their tidy eschatologies.

Whatever it is, it can’t be more complex than can be solved by the type of shameless political demagoguery you would expect from a Clinton. If you don’t follow...

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TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; antizionism; cruz; dhimmitude; fakechristians; falsebrethren; israel; ohnoitsdajoooooooooz; palestinians; perfidiousjews; reconstructionist; rop
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To: gusopol3

http://www.leftbehindmovie.com/

Be afraid, lefty; be very afraid.


61 posted on 09/13/2014 11:07:43 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Jeff Chandler
Middle Eastern Christians dislike Israel.

Nothing like a bald and sweeping generalization to get things rolling.

62 posted on 09/13/2014 11:09:08 AM PDT by x
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To: ilgipper

You clearly are not familiar with Cruz’s resume and experience before becoming a senator. No comparison to the back bencher in the Illinois legislature.


But wait, they both spent a lot of time in churches around then, so they’ve got that similarity going for them. So their reverends might have focused on different liturgical lessons...

And then of course they both were known gay cruisers even though married to women, so limo drivers knew where to head (whoops, unintentional) when wealthy gays came into town to play, and both loved these kind of meet and “greet” evenings... Oh, wait.


63 posted on 09/13/2014 11:11:41 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: oldbrowser

“Christians have no greater ally than the Jewish state,”
I don’t know where the “gaffe” is in that statement.


He should have said “the Jewish people” and he should have clarified, the Practicing Jewish people.


64 posted on 09/13/2014 11:13:34 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: ontap; lightman
or Eisenhower more recently being a governor!!!

Not debating the rest but you can’t say that Eisenhower did not have executive experience.

Executive experience does not exclusively refer to governors. Executives exist outside of civilian government.

I do believe that being a five star general in charge of the European theater of WW II qualifies as executive experience. I believe Washington and Grant also had executive experience.

But certainly some Presidents with executive experience did not do so well. Former governor Carter could have done with some real world experience outside of government.

65 posted on 09/13/2014 11:14:04 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: lightman

Hmmmm ..?? Guess you don’t know anything about Senator “Ted” Cruz; let me enlighten you.

He is a graduate of two Ivy League Colleges, where he got exceptional grades .. and one of his professors said Ted was the most brilliant Law student he had ever had. Ted knows the Constitution backwards and forwards; and he doesn’t play political games with it, unlike the “Senator from Illinois”.

During Ted’s time at both colleges, he was the DEBATE CHAMPION .. meaning he knows how to speak without pandering or slobbering all over people. He’s a no-nonsense guy who loves and honors America, and he believes in the American people.

The left HATES Senator Cruz because when he was Solicitor General (highest judicial office) of the State of Texas, it was Senator Cruz who went before the Supreme Court and argued the case of Bush v. Gore - AND WON ..!!! Which gave us President Bush (43).

That singular act has caused the LEFT to become ballistic whenever the name of Cruz is mentioned.

If Senator Cruz was president, we would not be in this horrible mess - which was caused by the “Senator from Illinois”.


66 posted on 09/13/2014 11:14:57 AM PDT by CyberAnt (True the Vote: " MY AMERICA, ... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: x
Nothing like a bald and sweeping generalization to get things rolling.

The measure of a generalization is not whether it is a generalization, and not whether there are exceptions, but whether it is generally true.

67 posted on 09/13/2014 11:16:56 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Olog-hai

Well, there is another “something” on the way .. but the world has never seen what’s going to be coming upon it.


68 posted on 09/13/2014 11:17:11 AM PDT by CyberAnt (True the Vote: " MY AMERICA, ... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: Jeff Chandler

Being “generally true” is different from being true. Lebanese Christians, for example, have had a complicated relationship with Israel in recent decades that I suspect goes far beyond liking or disliking, loving or hating.


69 posted on 09/13/2014 11:19:07 AM PDT by x
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To: x

It should come as a surprise to no one that Christian Arabs hate Jews. All this talk about them being closet Muslims is just silly.


70 posted on 09/13/2014 11:19:50 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: x
Being “generally true” is different from being true.

Being generally true is the measure of a generalization.

Arab culture is generally quite different from Western culture. We in America should refrain from assuming that the Arab people of any religion look upon Israel as we do. Heck, the American Left has even turned against Israel.

71 posted on 09/13/2014 11:23:01 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Pontiac

I’ll admit he had damn good experience in doing what he did best but executive experience in the political sense alludes to working with two houses of congress concerning political subjects. Ike took some time to get used to that aspect. Generals don’t seek compromise with their underling so much. Your point though is well taken. But my point was that Ted Cruz has much the same type of experience in the legal profession as Ike had in his Military career!!


72 posted on 09/13/2014 11:24:29 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Jeff Chandler

I agree with both your posts....they may not be closet Muslims but they are Jew haters and would do the same as most Muslims do to Jews!!!


73 posted on 09/13/2014 11:27:04 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Yaelle

What’s wrong with the Jewish state per se, in that case?


74 posted on 09/13/2014 11:30:08 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: eclecticEel

Fact is Israel and certain Israeli citizens on FR have done whatever was asked of them. Israel offered their help in both Gulf wars but were turned down because Arabs couldn’t over come their Jew hatred even when Israel was offering to help them.


75 posted on 09/13/2014 11:30:47 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Jeff Chandler

The American Left never really supported Israel. After all, who came up with the so-called “peace process” but a US lefty?


76 posted on 09/13/2014 11:31:36 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Yaelle

Or he could have simply told the truth and said France.


77 posted on 09/13/2014 11:31:57 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Jeff Chandler
Attitudes to Israel as to everything else can be complicated. That goes beyond loving and hating.

Cruz wasn't booed when he said, "Tonight, we are all united in defense of Jews." He was applauded. He was booed when he said, "Christians have no greater ally than the Jewish state," perhaps because the audience disagreed factually with the statement or perhaps because they thought he was going to make his speech about Israel rather than persecuted Christians.

I agree that it wasn't just Muslims who were booing and that Arab culture is different from Western culture, but a lot of people in the world don't feel about Israel exactly as Ted Cruz does, and that's not a matter blanket disliking or hating, but of feelings that can be quite complicated.

78 posted on 09/13/2014 11:32:28 AM PDT by x
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To: all the best
These writers are imbeciles.

"Stand with Israel" is not a gaffe


79 posted on 09/13/2014 11:33:54 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: all the best

That audience had Muslims in it, as far as I am concerned.

Cruz did the right thing.


80 posted on 09/13/2014 11:34:29 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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