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Football Team Forced to Remove Christian Crosses from Helmets
Townhall.com ^ | September 11, 2014 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 09/12/2014 9:34:20 AM PDT by Kaslin

Edited on 09/12/2014 9:45:30 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Football players at Arkansas State University were ordered to either remove a Christian cross decal from their helmets or modify it into a mathematical sign after a Jonesboro attorney complained that the image violated the U.S. Constitution.

The cross decal was meant to memorialize former player Markel Owens and former equipment manager Barry Weyer, said athletic director Terry Mohajir. Weyer was killed in a June car crash. Owens was gunned down in Tennessee in January.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: firstamendment; football
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To: ilovesarah2012

They must have been


61 posted on 09/12/2014 12:15:02 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
False headline alert!

Nobody "forced" this University to do anything.

The AD capitulated faster than France in WWII. My guess is the AD silently was against the cross and used this as an excuse.

Let them file the lawsuit. By the time it goes to Court, the season is over and the case is closed (the cross was to be on for one season only).

IT IS THE AD WE SHOULD BE PO'D AT AS WELL.

62 posted on 09/12/2014 12:48:29 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village)
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To: Michael.SF.

I have no idea, I wasn’t there, was you?


63 posted on 09/12/2014 1:02:26 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: marron
The Constitution is very clear: all religions are equal, and Christianity is more equal than the others:
Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth. In Witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names . . .
The First Amendment of course overrides any contradictory elements in the body of the Constitution, but the framers and ratifiers of the First Amendment did not think there were any such contradictions.

The body of the Constitution does not contain a bill of rights because the framers thought that the Constitution as written without a BOR had the same, and more liberal, protection of rights implied within it.

Amendment 9 - Construction of Constitution. Ratified 12/15/1791.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

addresses the danger that any BOR, including the first 8 amendments to the Constitution, could inadvertently limit our rights - that the BOR would come to represent a ceiling over, not a floor under, our rights. As indeed it is often argued today: "if it’s not explicitly forbidden to the government in the Constitution, we can get away with it.”
Thus Christ (“our Lord,” conventionally thought to have been born 1787 years before the signing of the Constitution) and his church are “more equal," even if the Constitution does not explicitly say so. The Christian religion must not be persecuted. If a conflict is thought to exist with other religions, that question is not to be decided against Christians.
Particularly if a religion’s holy book mandates the domination of Christians by physical violence . . .

64 posted on 09/12/2014 1:03:51 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Kaslin
Ironically, the university’s legal counsel admitted in a letter that there were no specific court cases that addressed crosses on football helmets. Nevertheless, she feared the possibility of a lawsuit.

Will anyone ever call these atheist agitators' bluff?

65 posted on 09/12/2014 1:06:16 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Kaslin
Sending a letter threatening a lawsuit is not "force", it is a request and promises action if the request is not acceded to.

The AD needs to grow a pair.

66 posted on 09/12/2014 1:09:35 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village)
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To: Michael.SF.
Well, this stupidity needs to stop. I am tired of one person claiming to being "offended" by something, or someone might be offended.

I think it's time someone stand up and file a lawsuit against these morons

67 posted on 09/12/2014 1:21:07 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
I agree with you and I firmly believe this AD missed just such an opportunity.

I saw most of the reactions on this thread were pointed at the lawyer who sent the letter. If we focused our anger at the AD, maybe the next time this happens that AD will think twice.

68 posted on 09/12/2014 1:37:33 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village)
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To: F15Eagle

I’m sure you do. You beat me to it. The second I saw the title of the thread I was going to post what you did. It’s obvious to everyone but crap-brained liberals that a cross on a helmet is not the establishment of a religion by congressional legislation. Except to the crapforbrains.


69 posted on 09/12/2014 3:55:56 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Kaslin
“That is a clear violation of the Establishment Clause as a state endorsement of the Christian religion,” Nisenbaum wrote. “

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Looks pretty foggy to me...

71 posted on 09/12/2014 5:21:04 PM PDT by Popman (Jesus Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Hoodat

I agree.


72 posted on 09/12/2014 5:58:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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