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Stop and Sieze: Aggressive police take hundreds of millions of dollars
Washington Post ^ | 9/6/14 | Michael Sallah

Posted on 09/07/2014 9:29:08 AM PDT by grumpygresh

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To: MulberryDraw
What if it’s $25,000 in $100 bills in a bag on the front seat, there are no illegal drugs and you’re on the way to buy a new car?

I used to live in a city where the cops carried their own evidence. "Well lookie here! A half gram of cocaine; right out on the seat in plain view!"

Many of them also carried a throwdown. "He resisted arrest..."

21 posted on 09/07/2014 10:24:50 AM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: grumpygresh
“Do you think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken.
There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power the government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them.
One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”
– Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957

With the "War on Drugs" scheme, we moved well past the point where Atlas Shrugged to making human nature and the Bill of Rights illegal.

22 posted on 09/07/2014 10:26:57 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Dallas59

That’s my car!


23 posted on 09/07/2014 10:28:57 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: grumpygresh

Volusia County in Florida routinely stops southbound Cadillacs and new big Lincoln sedans with NY or NJ or MA license plates for stop-and-seize because of the phenomenon of moderately successful yankees taking all their savings in cash to go to Florida to retire. They stop them, trigger a dog to “alert” on the car, search it and find the old couple’s hoard of cash. It is taken and never returned. Volusia will fight it out in court as far as it goes and I don’t think anyone has got anything back. Lawyers don’t like to sue for it because it is kind of fruitless. Volusia says, well. it’s drug money and tests positive for traces of cocaine. Just about all non crisp brand new 50s and 100s test positive for cocaine. I would have thought this would have ended years ago as people up north got the word but apparently it has not ended. Probably more old folks who left their cash in the bank and are travelling on Visa are apologized to and left by the side of the road to put their possessions and the insides of their cars back together to continue their journey.


24 posted on 09/07/2014 10:31:10 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

25 posted on 09/07/2014 10:31:58 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Ken H

Yet another example of how George H. Bush was an awful president.


26 posted on 09/07/2014 10:32:15 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Politicians and diapers must be changed often for the same reason)
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To: SeeSharp

There doesn’t have to be any smell for a drug sniffing dog to “alert” on a car or a person. The dogs are trained to sniff out substances and to alert on a hand signal.


27 posted on 09/07/2014 10:32:45 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: MulberryDraw

That happened before to some stripper that had saved her “tips” to buy a car. She took them to court but I don’t remember the outcome.


28 posted on 09/07/2014 10:36:15 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: arthurus

I saw a story on Dateline NBC at least 20 years ago about people being stopped in Volusia County, Florida for alleged minor traffic violations on I-95.

After the Volusia County deputy gave the driver a warning and started to walk away, he would stop, turn around, and then say to the driver, “By the way, do you have any guns or drugs in your car?” The driver would of course say no, and then the crooked deputy would say, “Do you mind if I take a look?”

If the driver said no, the jackboot would send for the drug dog, which of course was trained to “alert,” thus triggering a search. Fascist bastards.


29 posted on 09/07/2014 10:43:24 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Politicians and diapers must be changed often for the same reason)
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To: Dallas59
That's a terrific billboard!


30 posted on 09/07/2014 11:03:43 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: grumpygresh

Liberals got us big government. This is the spearpoint of big government.


31 posted on 09/07/2014 11:06:35 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: grumpygresh

Our local police were making out like dot.com entrepreneurs, `feathering their nest’ with new carpeting, big screen TVs, exercise equipment and more.
You would think confiscations would go into the general fund, but no, it was booty.


32 posted on 09/07/2014 11:09:00 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Daveinyork

What about ‘conservative’ drug war supporters?


33 posted on 09/07/2014 11:11:41 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Rusty0604
That happened before to some stripper that had saved her “tips” to buy a car. She took them to court but I don’t remember the outcome.

She got off with a lap dance for the judge. For that matter, so did he.

34 posted on 09/07/2014 11:12:30 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Whatever you have is due to the government. Simple when you get your mind right. Or else?


35 posted on 09/07/2014 12:04:16 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: arthurus

This “dog alert” is just a scam. What is the false positive rate? Are the dogs objectively graded or is there some bogus certification given by an expert at an academy run by an ex-cop? I’ll bet there a lot if dogs that are trained to “alert” when given cues by the cop or even when they just see a vehicle.
These older folks are going to have to think a little more out if the box when moving their wealth out of state.


36 posted on 09/07/2014 12:40:22 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: grumpygresh

I decided to read the comments at the source and one of the last was very good. Questioned the training of the dogs. What if the dogs are trained to smell for cash?


37 posted on 09/07/2014 2:03:59 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Focault's Pendulum

LOL; I did a search

Judge orders cops to return stripper’s $1 million IN CASH taken during traffic stop

Former dancer Tara Mishra, 33, lost part of her life savings when cops confiscated it from her business partners during a traffic stop, suspecting it was drug money.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/judge-orders-cops-return-stripper-1-million-article-1.1407412#ixzz3CfVURQuZ


38 posted on 09/07/2014 2:39:49 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: eastforker
Why should my money be seized because some ignorant cop doesn’t understand that.

They may be ignorant, but they understand completely. Civil Asset Forfeiture Laws say the money (and anything else of value) belongs to him.

Now, do YOU understand?

By the way, this affects a lot of retirees who travel the US in their vehicles. Plus antique buyers who travel around to estate sales, flea markets, yard sales, etc. And Advantage Players who play Video Poker and other winnable casino games. Most of the foregoing people are older, Caucasians. Not exactly the "Drug-Runner" profile - if you know what I mean.

Nevada license plates are a big reason to be stopped by greedy cops, as well. Might be a retired, antique-buyer, gambler with cash, ya know.

39 posted on 09/07/2014 3:49:32 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“What ever happened to due process?”

That was in America, where I grew up.

I now live in the united states.


40 posted on 09/07/2014 5:35:50 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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