Posted on 08/23/2014 5:27:58 PM PDT by markomalley
Obama as yet again come to the side of Islam and defended the religion, saying that ISIS does not represent true Islam. Obama said:
So ISIL speaks for no religion. Their victims are overwhelmingly Muslim, and no faith teaches people to massacre innocents. No just God would stand for what they did yesterday, and for what they do every single day.
For those of you who may stupidly believe Obama, I would like to present true Islam to the president, and illustrate that it is not just of the same violent nature, but in many ways worse than ISIS.
As we wrote in a former article, ISIS believes in the ritual of human sacrifice, where they shed the blood of their victims with the belief that it will appease Allah. In one instance an ISIS fighter slaughtered a number of Iraqi soldiers, and before killing them, said this prayer:
In defense of the Sunnis O Lord, O Lord, We bring these offerings to you, O Lord. Please accept this sacrificial offering, O Lord. O Lord, accept this from us, accept this from us. In the name of Allah. Bismillah (In the name of Allah). Allahu Akbar
ISIS is simply following the Islamic belief in human sacrifice as it was illustrated by the Islamic figure, Khalid Abdullah al-Kasri, who ritually sacrificed Jaad bin Durham in the place of an animal on the Islamic holiday of The Festival of Sacrifice. He dragged Durham into a mosque, and before spilling his blood, proclaimed:
O people, sacrifice, Allah accepted your sacrifices. I am now sacrificing Jaad bin Durham.
Tell me, Obama, does al-Kasri misrepresent true Islam? Or what about all of the Islamic authorities, Al-Shafi’, Ibin Tayymiya, Bukhari, Dhahabi, Ibin Al-Qiyam, Darami and Ibin Katheer, who accept the story as orthodox?
One of the greatest figures in Islamic history is the great Mamluk warlord, Baibars, who is most famously known for defeating the Mongols. Baibars butchered and tyrannized the entire Christian population of Antioch, slaughtering priests, selling women, destroying crosses and churches, ripping up Bibles, and feeling very proud about doing such evil. Tell me, Obama, did Baibars, who is praised by the entire Muslim world as a hero, misrepresent true Islam when he, with great boasting, wrote these words to the Christian leader of Antioch, Bohemond VI, of his bloodshed:
Death came among the besieged from all sides and by all roads: we killed all that thou hadst appointed to guard the city or defend its approaches. If thou hadst seen thy knights trampled under the feet of the horses, thy provinces given up to pillage, thy riches distributed by measures full, the wives of thy subjects put to public sale; if thou hadst seen the pulpits and crosses overturned, the leaves of the Gospel torn and cast to the winds, and the sepulchres of thy patriarchs profaned; if thou hadst seen thy enemies, the Muslims, trampling upon the tabernacle, and immolating in the sanctuary, monk, priest and deacon; in short, if thou hadst seen thy palaces given up to the flames, the dead devoured by the fire of this world, the Church of St Paul and that of St Peter completely and entirely destroyed, certainly thou wouldst have cried out “Would to Heaven that I were become dust!”
Today ISIS desecrates churches, slaughters Christians, sells Christian women, destroys Christian images and crosses, and invades Christian areas. Tell me, Obama, how they are different from the Muslims of the past.
Was Zyad bin Haritha, one of the closest companions to Muhammad, misrepresenting Islam when he took Umm, an old woman, and split her body in two by tying her to two moving camels? As the Hadith witnesses:
Allah’s Messenger sent Zayd to Wadi Qura, where he encountered the Banu Fazarah. Some of his Companions were killed, and Zayd was carried away wounded. Ward was slain by the Banu Badr. When Zayd returned, he vowed that no washing should touch his head until he had raided the Fazarah. After he recovered, Muhammad sent him with an army against the Fazarah settlement. He met them in Qura and inflicted casualties on them and took Umm Qirfah prisoner. He also took one of Umm’s daughters and Abdallah bin Mas’adah prisoner. Zyad bin Harithah ordered Qays to kill Umm, and he killed her cruelly. He tied each of her legs with a rope and tied the ropes to two camels, and they split her in two. (Tabari Vol.8:Page.96)
By this account, ISIS was completely in accordance with Islam when they took a young Christian boy in Baghdad in cut his body in half, just not so long ago.
Jihadists in have participated the drinking of Christian blood, but how is this so different from what Muhammad did, when he taught his followers to drink his blood in order to obtain salvation.
Malik ibn Sinan drank his [Muhammad's] blood on the Day of Uhud and licked it up. The Prophet allowed him to do that and then said, “The [Hell] fire will not touch you.” …and “Abdullah ibn az Zubayr drank his cupped blood. The Prophet said, “Woe to you from the people and woe to the people from you.” But he did not object to what he had done.
Abu Saad Khodri who stated in a strong Hadith in Sharh Hayat al-Sahaba, regarding partaking in the blood of Mohammed:
When, at the battle of Uhud, the helmet-rings had been taken out of the Prophet’s cheek, blood flowed from the radiant face of that Lord of the pure, and my father Malik Ibn Sinan sucked the wounds with his mouth, swallowing the blood. When they said to my father, “Malik, is blood to be drunk?” my father replied, “Yes, the blood of the Prophet of God I drink like a beverage.” At that time his Excellency, the Prophet, said, “Whoever wishes to see one who has mixed my blood with his own, let him look at Malik Ibn Sinan: any one whose blood touches mine, him the fire of hell shall not desire.”
Is Al-Azar University also misrepresenting Islam when he decreed that it was permissible to eat the flesh of enemies of Islam, putting in Egyptian high school curriculum “that those who don’t pray can be grilled & then eaten”, when in fact one of the most reputable authorities of Sunni Islam, Shafie, declared that it was permissible to cannibalize? For Shafie wrote:
One may eat the flesh of a human body. It is not allowed to kill a Muslim nor a free non-Muslim under Muslim rule (because he is useful for the society), nor a prisoner because he belongs to other Muslims. But you may kill an enemy fighter or an adulterer and eat his body (716 in volume 1, Al-Kortoby)
Is Obama going to go on the air and proclaim Shafie as not representing Islam? It would never happen, for to do so would mean receiving the hatred of the whole Sunni world.
ISIS is true Islam, and to learn more, you can read Walid Shoebat’s article on this very issue, here.
And you’re a boring, obsessional johnny-one-note. I’m a freeper, and I haven’t been fooled, I know what he meant when he wrote he would stand with the arabs and the Pakistanis.
He would stand with the muslims. He’s ingratiating himself with CAIR.
There was no need to call another freeper names and make it personal. You can dish it, but can you take it?
Freepmail.
“True Islam” is irrelevant, you worthless, witless, man-child POS B-HO!
It is not a quote, how dishonest are you that you want to create blatant lies and pass them off as truth, as direct quotes?
Ok, I got it now. You are a troll.
No, a troll is the guy who want to fake quotes, and when called on it, still insists on lying and faking direct quotes, and doing it at FR, so that the rest of us can be made fools of.
Revel: “The truth is that Isis is Islam in its truest form. It is what is taught in their bible. Convert or die.”
There’s a name for nonviolent people who don’t attempt to forcibly convert others and who claim to follow the Koran. That name is not “Muslim.” It’s “heretic.” ISIS appears to be composed of true believers, i.e. Muslims.
ISIS does not represent true islam.
And neither do Boko Haram, Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc., blah-blah-blah.
And neither does CAIR, we must assume.
10 Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam
#1 “Islam has always been part of America”
#2 “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”
#3 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
#4 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
#5 “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
#6 “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”
#7 “As a young man, I worked in Chicago communities where many found dignity and peace in their Muslim faith.”
#8 “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”
#9 “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
#10 “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”
10 Quotes By Barack Obama About Christianity
#1 “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
#2 “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”
#3 “Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”
#4 “Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages – the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity – are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”
#5 “The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics.”
#6 From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”
#7 “I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”
#8 “Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will–they have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”
#9 On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount.”
#10 “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”
The closer one draws to Christ and His teachings, the more nonviolent and peaceful one is. Christ literally sacrificed himself for sinners. He didn’t (doesn’t) seek to destroy unbelievers. He wants to save them!
Islam appears diametrically opposed to everything taught by Christ. I personally think there’s a very good chance that the Anti-Christ will emerge from Islam. I remember reading the Bible when I was young and thinking that no one (in this age) beheads Christians. Well...
“There are several hundred thousand decent Muslims.”
Those folks aren’t Muslim. They’re apostates! It’s like “Christians” who claim it’s OK to practice homosexual sex, fornicate, get drunk, or have abortions. A Christian who is indistinguishable from an unbeliever is not a Christian. Same thing for a “Muslim” who fits right in with unbelievers.
If there’s anything good to say about ISIS, it’s this. They practice what they preach.
Dude, everything posted here is public, searchable via all sorts of websites. Get a grip (like Tony W.)
That is your position on lying, that if we are suspicious, we can research your quotes and claimed to be factual posts?
Dude, why would you deliberately lie, and when called on it, continue to do it?
We are here to share facts and truthful information, not to play games to see if we can catch each other's lies before taking them to thanksgiving dinner with our liberal brother in law, who reams us in front of everyone.
Do you realize that you are declaring yourself totally untrustworthy, and even a troll?
You post pictures like I do.
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This reminds me of useful idiots in the 50’s who felt communism would work IF it was just tried in the ‘right’ country.
Not all Muslims are evil - but Islam - the religion - is evil...
I yam what I yam.
As Popeye said:
I yam what I yam.
96 posted on 8/23/2014 8:01:05 PM by Paladin2
Well, that is what I was saying.
Eat your Spinach (peas).
Sleeper cell.
You too?
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