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Gov. Perry stripped of his right to conceal carry and buy ammo
Rare ^ | 8-20-14 | Ken Herman (Austin American Statesman)

Posted on 08/20/2014 1:00:47 PM PDT by smokingfrog

For those of you who’ve been sleeping since it happened Friday, Travis County grand jurors indicted Perry on charges of abuse of official capacity and coercion of a public servant. The first count carries a possible prison term of five to 99 years. The second, two to 10. I’m no expert on law or math, but I believe those potential sentences each exceed one year.

And there’s more. As an indictee, Perry’s state-issued Concealed Handgun License, assuming he still has one — his office didn’t know as of Tuesday afternoon — will be suspended until the case against him is decided. (Cue the cheering coyotes.)

The indictment’s impact on Perry’s gun rights was brought to my attention by a former Democratic state legislator who seemed happy to point it out.

“I’m surprised that you haven’t analyzed the most significant and immediate impact of the governor’s indictment,” ex-state Sen. Steve Carriker, D-Roby, told me in an email including the applicable federal law.

Carriker also was most helpful in providing the official federal “Firearms Transaction Record Part 1” form, which must be filled in by firearms purchasers. Question 11b asks “Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime, for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year?” (An information is a formal accusation of a crime by a prosecutor.)

For Perry that’s now a big ol’ yes. And yes means no new guns or ammo.

(Excerpt) Read more at rare.us ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedcarry; form4473; gunrights; perry; rickperry
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To: smokingfrog

What a bunch of horse hockey!
You lose the right to self defense if you are accused of a crime?


61 posted on 08/20/2014 1:40:42 PM PDT by mylife
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To: smokingfrog

Wow, I didn’t think a simple indictment would do that. I thought it had to be a felony conviction. Damn.


62 posted on 08/20/2014 1:42:14 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’m not especially fond of him either but I do enjoy seeing liberals worry about it.


63 posted on 08/20/2014 1:42:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: glock rocks

I believe that all of TX DPS works for the Guv. That’s at least 2500 plus State Troopers.


64 posted on 08/20/2014 1:44:40 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Demonazi's are openly marching us (Jews, Christians, Conservatives) double time to Holocaust II.)
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To: thackney
I still won't vote for Perry. He's a liberal.

That said, I will support him in his fight against Travis County Prosecutor's Office.

/johnny

65 posted on 08/20/2014 1:45:14 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cripplecreek
I'm fine with the liberals fretting themselves bald over it.

Still won't vote for him.

/johnny

66 posted on 08/20/2014 1:46:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: miss marmelstein
I wasn't really kidding (too much) when I advocating nuking Austin.

I'd have to find a new lady-friend, but I could cope.

/johnny

67 posted on 08/20/2014 1:47:53 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Political Junkie Too
It was ugly. Dems going to NM, but coming back....

/johnny

68 posted on 08/20/2014 1:48:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’ll vote for the most conservative in the race, primary and general. If it is him, he will get my vote.

If we manage to have someone more conservative on the ticket, I’ll vote for that one.


69 posted on 08/20/2014 1:50:28 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Once you’re indicted in TX, your CHL is immediately suspended.


70 posted on 08/20/2014 1:51:43 PM PDT by Monty22002
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To: thackney
The ticket will include those in the Constitution Party, etc....

It's not a two-party ticket.

/johnny

71 posted on 08/20/2014 1:52:18 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: DoodleDawg; All

“Isn’t that presumption of guilt? I could understand if he was charged with a violent crime or something like that.”

Why, yes it is! I have always thought that the prohibition for indictment was unconstituitonal.

This could be a good case to show the need for reform of the law.


72 posted on 08/20/2014 1:53:24 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: vpintheak

After I posted the question I went back & checked to see what penalties she received. Not much - because she knew how to game the system. Good comments on how she got away with ‘time off for good behavior’ etc.,

see here:http://www.statesman.com/news/news/crime-law/as-lehmberg-heads-to-jail-new-details-about-bookin/nXRjb/

She left the packed courtroom quietly on Friday to start serving her sentence: 45 days in jail and a $4,000 fine under a plea agreement.

Beginning May 23, her license will also be suspended for 180 days. She waived her right to appeal.


73 posted on 08/20/2014 1:53:40 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: Monty22002
Does the CINC of Texas need a CHL in his official capacity?

He is governor, after all, and there's so very little he can do in Texas as governor.

I'm aware of the law, since I'm from here.

I'd still pay to see the arguments in the case.

/johnny

74 posted on 08/20/2014 1:54:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

“I was accused of all sorts of things during my divorce (from drug dealing to spousal abuse to terror-istic threats)...”

Sounds like my nasty ex-wife’s nasty sister? Heh.


75 posted on 08/20/2014 1:56:35 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.)
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To: marktwain
Reform hell, abolishment.

Texas needs Constitutional carry.

/johnny

76 posted on 08/20/2014 1:57:20 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: smokingfrog
Yeah, I was wrong.

However, I was certain of my wrong facts, and hopefully that counts for something!

77 posted on 08/20/2014 1:57:55 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: smokingfrog

I recall G. Gordon Liddy mentioning once that he could no longer buy or own a gun.
But he then said his wife had a large arsenal. :^)


78 posted on 08/20/2014 1:58:27 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: smokingfrog
"Perry, while under indictment, can’t buy guns or ammo from a licensed dealer or from an individual. And he can’t accept guns or ammo as gifts.

And it doesn't stop there. Even after the charges are dismissed or he's found "Not Guilty," he'll never again be able to instantly pass a NICS background check. As it will take several days (or many more) after a NICS check is submitted to receive a clearance for purchase, he'll never again be able to "instantly" purchase a firearm.

79 posted on 08/20/2014 1:59:10 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war,and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: matthew fuller

Yes, and all the other executive agencies.


80 posted on 08/20/2014 1:59:21 PM PDT by glock rocks (In DC, nobody can hear you scream)
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