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Was the cop injured during his altercation with Michael Brown?
Hot Air.com ^ | aUGUST 19, 2014 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 08/19/2014 5:11:37 PM PDT by Kaslin

Jim Hoft, who’s based in St. Louis, claims he has two well-placed local sources who say yes.

The Gateway Pundit can now confirm from two local St. Louis sources that police Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with deceased 18 year-old Michael Brown. Officer Wilson clearly feared for his life during the incident that led to the shooting death of Brown. This was after Michael Brown and his accomplice Dorian Johnson robbed a local Ferguson convenience store.

Local St. Louis sources said Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.” This comes from a source within the District Attorney’s office and confirmed by the St. Louis County Police.

If Brown, a big man, punched Wilson in the face while they were jawing at each other through the squad car window, that would explain why Brown took off running and why Wilson took off after him. Then again, you don’t need to imagine any physical contact between Brown and Wilson to explain that. If Wilson had said, “Hey, you’re the guy who just robbed the convenience store!”, that might have sent Brown running too.

Is there any corroborating evidence that Brown hit Wilson in the face? Yeah, sort of. If “Josie,” the now famous caller to Dana Loesch’s radio show, really is who she says she is, then Wilson himself told her that Brown punched him.

Here's how Darren Wilson's "friend" described Mike Brown's shooting to Dana Loesch. #Ferguson pic.twitter.com/nZU4NC1mJB

— Emma Roller (@emmaroller) August 18, 2014

“Just shoves him back into his car, punches him in the face, and then of course Darren grabs for his gun.” And yet — Josie doesn’t claim that Brown busted Wilson’s eye, a detail you’d think she would want to mention to emphasize the severity of the attack. Also, if you look back at the cellphone video captured by Piaget Crenshaw, you’ll see Wilson standing by Brown’s body with no apparent injury and seemingly in no distress from what allegedly would have been a nasty eye injury.

Most obvious of all, if Hoft’s sources are right, why haven’t we heard this already from Ferguson PD? It seemed odd when they let days go by before releasing the convenience store surveillance video of Brown, but there’s an explanation for that in hindsight. The DOJ was pressuring them not to release the footage, believing that it was immaterial to what happened later between Brown and Wilson and would be prejudicial to the public’s understanding of the case. The cops probably also wanted to let a bit of time pass between Brown’s death and releasing the video, lest they be accused of impeaching his character before the body was even cold. There’s no obvious reason, though, for them not to release information about Wilson supposedly being punched in the face and having his eye socket fractured by Brown if that’s what happened. It’s germane to Wilson’s self-defense claim and it’ll come out at trial, neither of which is necessarily true about the convenience store tape. Even if the feds are pressuring them to hush it up, there’s no reason why the police would respect that request if they were willing to defy the DOJ on the surveillance video. A busted eye would be the best evidence offered so far that Wilson was dealing with a serious threat to his safety — and yet the cops have said nothing about it. How come?


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KEYWORDS: darrenwilson; darrenwilsoninjury; fergusonshooting; missouri
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To: stars & stripes forever

I think his shooting was impaired - it was only a double tap to Baby Huey’s head - the rest of the rounds hit him in his arm


21 posted on 08/19/2014 5:36:21 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: A CA Guy

He not only turned around but he taunted him about not shooting him and then ran back.

To me, it raises a lot of question about exactly what Michael Brown was talking about in one of his latest tweets, as reported at http://freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp://clashdaily.com/2014/08/michael-brown-case-suddenly-blows-wide-open-likely-slam-dunk-favor-police/ and elsewhere):

“If I leave this earth today, at least you’ll know I care about others more than I cared about my damn self.”

It sounds to me as if he was planning on being a martyr for what he considered a greater cause. What cause? Well, his buddies sound a lot like the New Black Panthers...

Here’s another link that had information/comments from his FB when it was till viewable: http://charlestonthuglife.net/2014/08/14/what-a-sham/ Sounds like his friends were big on the violence stuff as a way to “honor” his death.

This is the FB link but you have to be a friend to see the comments now: https://www.facebook.com/Mikestlboii

Here’s a link with a looter saying something about “the revolution”. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-11/ferguson-stlouis-violence-continues-protesters-warn-revolution-wont-be-televised

Eric Holder, Barack Obama, Bill Ayers, etc... seem to have the Chicago communist thugs there, and the New Black Panthers including the Shabazz guy that Eric Holder kept from being prosecuted... The locals were saying that these people were being brought in from outside the city. Kinda like you’d do with a staged operation.

And the stories almost seem rehearsed from early on, except the people who were speaking off the record, like the conversation caught in the background of another video.

The “Snitches get stitches” graffiti, together with the gang signals from both Brown and his FB friends, suggest that thugs had control of the area. It is claimed in one of the links above that there was previously a reference number for Brown’s criminal proceedings. Muslims like the New Black Panthers do a LOT of recruiting from jail, and if they’re after young angry black guys, the gangs and/or juvenile system would be a good place to start...

Somebody suggested maybe it was just poetry that Brown put on his FB page. I googled the quote, minus Brown, and nothing showed up anywhere.

I would like to know what connections existed between Brown & buddies and the New Black Panthers that Eric Holder is so cozy with...


22 posted on 08/19/2014 5:36:50 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: Kaslin

If Attorney Crump is to be believed, we will get this information from the police in a “peace mil” fashion.


23 posted on 08/19/2014 5:38:12 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: boop

Yes, you’re right. I failed to notice that. My mistake.

Thank you.


24 posted on 08/19/2014 5:38:59 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Kaslin

I was punched harder enough in the face to chip my socket. Left a spur there to this day. I didn’t even realize the skin below my eye was cut from the impact and blood was running down my face till I was told.

My wife’s 80+ aunt fell and busted her eye on a desk. Didn’t realize the damage till someone told her her eye was more than blackened.

It’s not a very sensitive spot.


25 posted on 08/19/2014 5:43:21 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Kaslin

Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack

Today’s FR post with 714 replies and counting

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3194542/posts


26 posted on 08/19/2014 5:43:37 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: boop; Admin Moderator

Can you please pull post 7. I don’t want to mislead anyone.


27 posted on 08/19/2014 5:43:44 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Thanks. I couodn’t remember where I heard it, but I was sure I did


28 posted on 08/19/2014 5:45:03 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Bogey78O

Hard. Not harder


29 posted on 08/19/2014 5:45:53 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: digger48

I remember hearing it too.


30 posted on 08/19/2014 5:47:19 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: dragnet2

Well, you just made the case for cops not carrying guns.

/S/S/S/S/S


31 posted on 08/19/2014 5:47:41 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (/s /s /s /s /s, my replies are "liberally" sprinkled with them behind every word and letter.!)
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To: Ray76

Hit “report abuse” and ask them


32 posted on 08/19/2014 5:48:51 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Kaslin

OK. So it went from Gateway Pundit to Hot Air.

How soon will it reach the major networks, or will it ?


33 posted on 08/19/2014 5:53:49 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

as in shots to the arm and elbow??


34 posted on 08/19/2014 5:55:26 PM PDT by MikeinMotley
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To: Kaslin

on one hand, maybe at least the hospital treatment record could be released, but I’m not sure if “josie” helped, or if releasing a photo of the officer’s injuries would be considered ‘tainting’ the jury, should this go to trial


35 posted on 08/19/2014 5:55:40 PM PDT by blueplum
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Hit someone hard enough...even with gloves...and their face will swell up anywhere from instantly to 5 mins.


36 posted on 08/19/2014 5:57:48 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: expat2

not completely true, at least in some cases, hit my eye a couple weeks ago moving furniture, hurt like a bitch and was black before i could get to the downstairs of my home...but im no doctor so idk

Mike


37 posted on 08/19/2014 5:59:05 PM PDT by MikeinMotley
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To: Scrambler Bob

The “confronted the policeman” in the car was among the earliest reports. Also, notice that El Presidente has not come to the defense of Brown as he did with Gates the professor or Trayvon Martin. Perhaps he was appraised of the situation re: Brown instigating the confrontation and attacking Wilson, therefore he is “withholding judgment” unlike the other two instances.

Very little has also been said about the “Swisher Sweets” being used to mask marijuana use, although it was reported that Brown’s body did contain marijuana. Very little was publicly said about the makings of a drug concoction made from the items Trayvon Martin had purchased prior to his confrontation with Zimmerman, too.


38 posted on 08/19/2014 6:00:40 PM PDT by T Baden (Tenth Amendment Texan)
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To: Kaslin

There was a first round that was fired in the alleged initial altercation, right? I thought I heard it was in the car. Is there physical evidence of this? Bullet hole in the seat, etc?


39 posted on 08/19/2014 6:06:57 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: stars & stripes forever

I got a blowout fracture once from a sucker punch. All it did was make me so mad that he never landed another punch. I saw well enough out of my “good eye”.


40 posted on 08/19/2014 6:07:28 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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