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Robles NYT: Dr. Baden didn't have access to important info: xrays, clothes, toxicology, witnesses
Twitter ^ | August 17, 2014 | Frances Robles, New York Times correspondent

Posted on 08/18/2014 6:18:56 AM PDT by maggief

Dr. Baden didn't have access to important info: xrays, clothes, toxicology, witnesses. Lots of variables to know what happened. #Ferguson

9:08 PM - 17 Aug 2014


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: autopsy; baden; brownautopsy; drbaden; familyautopsy; michaelbrown; missouri; privateautopsy
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Frances Robles @FrancesRobles · 8h .@MKEMike1 No, bullets were removed by county M.E. so independent autopsy did not have access to gun information. #Ferguson

Retweeted by Frances Robles Alan Blinder @alanblinder · 9h New from me and @tanzinavega in #Ferguson: Violence Flares in Ferguson After Appeals for Harmony http://nyti.ms/1uJ2h3p

Frances Robles @FrancesRobles · 9h Dr. Baden didn't have access to important info: xrays, clothes, toxicology, witnesses. Lots of variables to know what happened. #Ferguson

Frances Robles @FrancesRobles · 9h .@RPQuintanilla Independent autopsy did not have access to bullets found in the body #Ferguson

Frances Robles @FrancesRobles · 9h Michael Brown shot at least 6X - 2X in the head, says preliminary autopsy obtained by @nytimes My story: http://goo.gl/ysghLv #Ferguson

Frances Robles @FrancesRobles · 9h In diagram, wounds at the nipple and collar bone are re-entry wounds, where bullet entered a second time. http://goo.gl/ysghLv #Ferguson

Frances Robles @FrancesRobles · 9h Dr. Baden, independent pathologist, does not know how many shots were fired. http://goo.gl/ysghLv #Ferguson

Frances Robles @FrancesRobles · 10h Bullets were fired from at least 24", but that could change depending on gunpowder tests on clothes. http://goo.gl/ysghLv #Ferguson

Frances Robles @FrancesRobles · 10h Doctor hired by family says prelim. autopsy results can't justify or vilify shooting. Not enough info yet. http://goo.gl/ysghLv #Ferguson

Retweeted by Frances Robles Marc Lacey @marclacey · 10h Dr. Baden did a four-hour autopsy of #MikeBrown Sun. Hired by Benjamin L. Crump, a lawyer for family. Six bullets. ://nyti.ms/1t8TOVg

Frances Robles @FrancesRobles · 10h .@sherrydear @alanblinder @nytimes Dr. Baden said: "People make mistakes." View conversation

Frances Robles @FrancesRobles · 10h Preliminary autopsy shows Michael Brown's right eye was shattered by a bullet that caused five wounds. http://goo.gl/ysghLv #Ferguson

Frances Robles @FrancesRobles · 10h "Celebrity medical examiner" Michael Baden hired to examine Michael Brown's body. Story: http://goo.gl/ysghLv #Ferguson

Retweeted by Frances Robles Marc Lacey @marclacey · 10h Autopsy sketch shows entry, re-entry and exit wounds from 6 bullets that hit #MikeBrown. Exclusive ex @FrancesRobles http://nyti.ms/1t8TOVg

Frances Robles @FrancesRobles · 10h Michael Brown was not shot in the back, preliminary autopsy showed. My story: http://goo.gl/ysghLv #Ferguson

Frances Robles @FrancesRobles · 10h .@wolverinenyc1 @marclacey Toxicology still pending

Frances Robles @FrancesRobles · 10h Michael Brown shot at least 6X - 2X in the head, says preliminary autopsy obtained by @nytimes My story: http://goo.gl/ysghLv #Ferguson

1 posted on 08/18/2014 6:18:56 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Clarifications to original story.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html?_r=0

Autopsy Shows Michael Brown Was Struck at Least 6 Times

By FRANCES ROBLES and JULIE BOSMANAUG. 17, 2014


2 posted on 08/18/2014 6:19:45 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

I hear the family hired Sherlock Holmes to investigate the crime, and Arnie Becker as an attorney.


3 posted on 08/18/2014 6:21:59 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: maggief

A hulk of a MAN with adrenaline (and drugs?) running through his system comes charging at me? You can bet that I’m going to keep shooting until he’s down.


4 posted on 08/18/2014 6:22:00 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: maggief; All

Keep in mind that Francis Robles used to work for the Miami Herald and was a key insider/enabler for the Trayvon Martin family. It looks like she is reprising that role in the Michael Brown Ferguson case.


5 posted on 08/18/2014 6:24:56 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: maggief
Mr. Brown, 18, was also shot four times in the right arm, he said, adding that all the bullets were fired into his front.

So much for him being gunned down when he was running away.

6 posted on 08/18/2014 6:25:11 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: freeangel

Agreed.

If you are justified in shooting someone, you should keep shooting until he’s on the ground and immobilized.

Just because the autopsy indicates the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th shot was the “fatal” one does not mean the 5th and/or 6th are not needed at the time.


7 posted on 08/18/2014 6:26:15 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: maggief

I’m really bad at Twitter, so I need a short summary of what this is telling us.


8 posted on 08/18/2014 6:26:24 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: dirtboy
So much for him being gunned down when he was running away.

Or while on his knees with his hands in the air.

9 posted on 08/18/2014 6:27:18 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: maggief

They’re being more secretive about this, than JFK’s autopsy.


10 posted on 08/18/2014 6:27:27 AM PDT by mothball
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To: freeangel

“A hulk of a MAN with adrenaline (and drugs?) running through his system comes charging at me? You can bet that I’m going to keep shooting until he’s down.”

An important point that I never hear from the media.


11 posted on 08/18/2014 6:29:22 AM PDT by deweyfrank
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To: dirtboy; maggief

NOT running away but running towards the Police Officer, BIG difference!!!


12 posted on 08/18/2014 6:29:22 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: freeangel

From what I gather (and any LEO on FR may can verify) is they are trained to keep shooting until the threat is ‘neutralized’.

I know if I saw that hulk charging at me.....I’d be emptying a clip or two.


13 posted on 08/18/2014 6:30:11 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Illegals Are Getting Flat Screet TV's....NOT TB Screenings!)
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To: freeangel
Hmmmmmm do I want to fire one shot and hope he stops before he gets to me or do I want to keep firing till he goes down?


14 posted on 08/18/2014 6:30:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Apparently the government is going to haul the fat piece of meat all over for more exams to get the right government doctor to ‘prove’ that poor little Brown was shot in the back with a machine gun.


15 posted on 08/18/2014 6:31:17 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

*snicker* SMH


16 posted on 08/18/2014 6:31:39 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Illegals Are Getting Flat Screet TV's....NOT TB Screenings!)
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To: danamco

In other words, Dr Baden relied on the science of the autopsy report.

All the things mentioned beyond that won’t change the facts revealed by the body. Of course, truth is not what the other party is seeking. Now it’s a political narrative that will be *supported* by *their* evidence.


17 posted on 08/18/2014 6:32:01 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: maggief

Cloths and witnesses are not part of an autopsy


18 posted on 08/18/2014 6:33:41 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: maggief

In my OPINION this Baden is a flim flam man, he will say anything if the price is right. He’s basically a BS artist for hire. I read a book of his a while ago, and the impression I got from it, is someone comes up with a theory of how someone died, no matter how ridiculous, and then he does an autopsy or looks at the reports and bends the facts to fit that theory.


19 posted on 08/18/2014 6:35:56 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: VanDeKoik

It means the Ghetto Bull, was facing the Officer when he shot multiple times. All entry wounds were on his front side. The most logical scenario is he was charging the Officer and was shot repeatedly as he charged until the eye shot dropped him. (as at least one witness has reportedly stated.)

Given the number of times he was hit my suspicion is that the blood toxicology will show Junior was pumped on something.


20 posted on 08/18/2014 6:35:59 AM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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