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Why Great Husbands Are Being Abandoned
Psychology Today ^ | 13 August 2014 | Randi Gunther, Ph.D

Posted on 08/15/2014 3:47:26 PM PDT by Drew68

Not so many years ago, married men had the freedom to live by one set of rules away from home, and a different set at the hearth. Because they held the power to distribute resources however they wished, they could decide what and when to share them. As women have become legitimate wage earners with more powerful voices, they have challenged their chosen partners to participate in a whole new kind of connection that does not accept automatic hierarchy.

In the last few decades women have slowly driven their point home. The millennial men, who are their current counterparts, are freer thinkers and they have responded in kind in their relationships as well. These men like their women strong and feisty, and have willingly accepted the responsibility to connect in a more vulnerable way. They get it that it’s sexy to help make a meal or take the kids away on a Sunday morning so their wives can sleep in. They are the androgynous guys that their women have asked them to become.

You would think that the women in these new relationships would be ecstatic. They’ve got a guy who wants to work out together, share parenting, support their parallel dreams, and make their family collective central to both of their lives. They’ve established an equal relationship of coordinated teamwork, and the guys don’t seem to miss their old need to posture for power over intimate connections.

Well, guess again. Fifty percent of marriages are still ending in divorce, and women continue to be the gender that initiates those endings. In the past, their reasons for leaving most often had to do with infidelity, neglect, or abuse. Now they’re dumping men who are faithful, attentive, and respectful, the very men they said they have always wanted. Why would women who have accomplished the female dream suddenly not be satisfied with it? Why are they leaving these ideal guys, and for what reasons?

I am currently dealing with several of these great husbands. They are, across the board, respectful, quality, caring, devoted, cherishing, authentic, and supportive guys whose wives have left them for a different kind of man. These once-beloved men make a living, love their kids, help with chores, support aging parents, and support their mate’s desires and interests. They believe they’ve done everything right. They are devastated, confused, disoriented, and heartsick. In a tragic way, they startlingly resemble the disheartened women of the past who were left behind by men who “just wanted something new.”

You may think that these women are ruthless and inconsiderate. The ones I know are far from that. More often, they still love their husbands as much as they ever did, but in a different way. They tell me how wonderful their men are and how much they respect them. They just don’t want to be married to them anymore.

Perhaps it would be even more honest to say that they don’t want to be yoked to anyone any more. At least in the traditional ways they once thought embraced as ideal. They feel compassion for their prior mates, but liberated in their new-found right to create a different way of feeling in relationships. In short, they want to live their lives with the privileges men once had.

I think I understand what is going on.

In the last twenty years, as women have found their voices and value, they have been asking more equality in their relationships. They were ready to take leadership and to disconnect from dependency. In exchange, they wanted their men to adopt nurturing and vulnerable characteristics. At first, there was an expected backlash. “Men are from Mars” and other media presentations became the cry for holding on to the differences between men and women and to keep them from blending.

Nevertheless, it became more and more apparent that quality people of both genders would be happier and more fulfilled if they could combine power and nurturing. Men would develop their feminine side and women their masculine. No longer would it be that the bad boys were sexy and the good women were virtuous. Now quality men needed to add chivalry to their power, and women to claim their ability for independent thinking and leadership. They could imagine a relationship where both were equally blended and free to be the best they could be. “She” and “he” became the new idealized “we.”

As the trend picked up energy, more of the die-hard “men’s men” started to see that the androgynous males were stealing the great girls from under their hard-core posturing, and began to wonder if their “take-no-prisoners” attitude might benefit from a little revising. Women saw their newly developed mates as their best friends, so wonderfully malleable they could take them anywhere and know they would fit in. Men no longer had to “understand and handle” their women, nor did women have to orchestrate “connection.”

Then things started to go awry. Perhaps these androgynous couples over-valued adopting the same behaviors in their relationship. Maybe the men got too nice and the women a little too challenging. Oddly, the androgynous men seemed to like their new-found emotional availability, while the women began to feel more unfulfilled. Her “perfect” partner, in the process of reclaiming his full emotional expressiveness, somehow ended up paying an unfair price; he was no longer able to command the hierarchical respect from her that was once his inalienable right.

How can a man be a caretaker and a warrior at the same time? How can he serve his woman’s need for a partner who is vulnerable, open, and intimate, while donning armor to fight the dangers that threaten his family and place in the world? How can he stand up and be a man amongst men, loyal to the hunting band that covers his back, while taking the night feeding, while not appearing less than a man? Did he blend his male energy with his female side, or did he learn to be more like a female at the price of his innate masculinity?

The women I have treated who have left their husbands for more “masculine” men believed that their new relationships would be able to both excite and nurture them. Sadly, that has not always happened. The veritable saint with balls is as elusive as ever.

When things haven’t worked out as they thought they would, several of the women I am now working with are re-thinking their decisions, wondering if they left too soon, or for the wrong reasons. They want to reconcile with the men they have left behind. Their husbands are torn between the understandable desire to reject them and still wanting them back. Ironically, because these have nurtured the feminine side of their natures, they are also able to forgive in a way few men have been able to do in the past. But because they have no interest in returning to the “bad boy” mentality their competitors brandished, they are faced with a challenge most men have never had to confront. How do they hold on to their vulnerability and capacity to nurture, and blend it with the strength and power required of a self-respecting leader of men?

None of my reuniting couples ever want to lose each other again. They’ve left the old ways behind and know that going back to what was will not work anymore. They intensely want to create a new kind of connection that blends the beauty of traditional roles with the freedom to move between them, and to blend the best of the past with an as-yet-unwritten future.

It must be a parallel path. Both men and women must separately find their own individual balance between their need for independence and their desire for ongoing commitment, not balance their proclivities on the other end of their partner. As integrated individuals in their own right, they would then have the capacity to create a relationship that is more than the exchange or sum of the parts. Committed partners who are willing to fight for that innovative solution will find the way.

Reprinted from Huffington Post


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: divorce; marriage
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To: forgotten man

I can believe the statistic, but am surprised it hasn’t gone down as less guys bother getting married. I’d think at some point the only people getting married are mature people serious about it.


21 posted on 08/15/2014 4:21:09 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Drew68

“Oddly, the androgynous men seemed to like their new-found emotional availability, while the women began to feel more unfulfilled. “

“Unfulfilled”LMAO! Go far enough in one direction and you end up back where you started...or something like that.

Anyways, I detect a pattern here.

I’m pretty sure my old grampa coulda told me that any woman I give my balls to to put away in her lock box is NEVER gonna respect me,


22 posted on 08/15/2014 4:30:52 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Drew68

The veritable saint with balls is as elusive as ever.

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My favorite line in the whole piece.


23 posted on 08/15/2014 4:33:19 PM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. (W.E. Johns)
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To: Drew68

This article defines “category error.”


24 posted on 08/15/2014 4:36:02 PM PDT by papertyger (Those who don't fight evil hate those who do)
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To: Calvin Locke
Ah, so it’s one of those “They got what they asked for, but not what they wanted” things.

This is the key line of the article, imho:

... several of the women I am now working with are re-thinking their decisions, wondering if they left too soon, or for the wrong reasons. They want to reconcile with the men they have left behind.

It's this that separates the men from the p*ssies (sorry, neutered androgynous men). I can see bending someone, even considerably, to make a relationship with someone worthwhile work. I've done it quite bit over the 20 years I've been with my wife. Successful marriages in this day and age require a spirit of give and take from both sides.

But the minute a woman abandons a guy for another guy is my breaking point. Efforts to reconcile should be met with a firm "You made your bed, now go lie in it" response. And I'm being diplomatic in saying that.
25 posted on 08/15/2014 4:45:18 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Drew68
Then, if you read to the end, the women realized the mistake they made and want to get back with their ex that they dumped. And seemingly with good results.

Only a girly-man would take back a wife who left him.

26 posted on 08/15/2014 4:48:44 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: forgotten man
I have always been skeptical about the 50% of all marriages end in divorce “statistic.” I always hear 50%. I never hear 51.2% or 48% or 49.6%. They all say exactly 50%. It is obvious B.S.

Its more nuanced too, since it takes into account all marriages.

IIRC the vast majority of first marriages last. But for those that divorce the changes of then divorcing from a second or third (or so on) marriage are very, very high. It skews the percentages higher ...
27 posted on 08/15/2014 4:50:08 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

Meant to say “bending somewhat” in my above. Not “somebody”.

Really, I did!

:-)


28 posted on 08/15/2014 4:51:04 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Parley Baer
Obama and his Muslim Brotherhood buddies have other ideas about marriage on their minds.

Tell that to moochelle and see if you leave the room with both your ears.

FMCDH(BITS)

29 posted on 08/15/2014 4:52:00 PM PDT by nothingnew (Hemmer and MacCullum are the worst on FNC)
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To: Drew68
I sent this to my Son and he confirmed it was VERY close to being the correct approach. It's funny too!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKWmFWRVLlU
30 posted on 08/15/2014 4:54:08 PM PDT by PushinTin (Politicians are like diapers, they need to be changed often and for the same reason...)
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To: Drew68
A store that sells husbands has just opened where a woman may go to choose a husband from among many men…

The store is composed of 6 floors, and the men increase in positive attributes as the shopper ascends the flights.

There is, however, a catch. As you open the door to any floor you may choose a man from that floor, but if you go up a floor, you cannot go back down except to exit the building.

So a woman goes to the shopping center to find a husband.

On the first floor the sign on the door reads:

Floor 1 – These men have jobs. The woman reads the sign and says to herself, “Well, that’s better than my last boyfriend, but I wonder what’s further up?”

So up she goes.

The second floor sign reads:

Floor 2 – These men have jobs and love kids. The woman remarks to herself, “That’s great, but I wonder what’s further up?” And up she goes again.

The third floor sign reads:

Floor 3 – These men have jobs, love kids and are extremely good looking. “Hmmm, better” she says. “But I wonder what’s upstairs?”

The fourth floor sign reads:

Floor 4 – These men have jobs, love kids, are extremely good looking and help with the housework. “Wow!” exclaims the woman, “very tempting. BUT, there must be more further up!” And again she heads up another flight.

The fifth floor sign reads:

Floor 5 – These men have jobs, love kids, are extremely good looking, help with the housework and have a strong romantic streak. “Oh, mercy me! But just think… what must be awaiting me further on?” So up to the sixth floor she goes.

The sixth floor sign reads:

Floor 6 – You are visitor 3,456,789,012 to this floor. There are no men on this floor. This floor exists solely as proof that women are impossible to please.

Thank you for shopping at The Husband Store and have a nice day.

31 posted on 08/15/2014 4:55:10 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Wonderful! Thank you.


32 posted on 08/15/2014 4:59:40 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Drew68

I have figured out I am simply not attracted to the ‘modern woman’ enough to put up with the BS of having one around.

Too many of my friends have been put through hell by ‘confused’ women.

Luckily I did not make the same mistake.

And for my choice I have gained an early retirement, financial security and most importantly peace of mind.

Toys, hobbies and a good dog will have to do.

And I am happy with it.


33 posted on 08/15/2014 5:00:36 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: tanknetter
Successful marriages in this day and age require a spirit of give and take from both sides

Unfortunately, these kinds of women have rationalized themselves into presuming they can be the supreme arbiter of what they'll give AND what they'll take.

34 posted on 08/15/2014 5:02:22 PM PDT by papertyger (Those who don't fight evil hate those who do)
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To: riri
I have noticed a massive increase in declined male ambition in recent years.

Once a guy has decided that marriage isn't worth the risk of a vicious, state-encouraged divorce initiated by a "modern" woman who, after having slept with 20 guys by age 25 decides that her marriage doesn't make her feel happy anymore, he often discovers how little money he needs to enjoy life.
35 posted on 08/15/2014 5:17:49 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Age of Reason
Only a girly-man would take back a wife who left him.

Keep in mind, the woman who wrote this article is a psychotherapist and marriage counselor practicing in Southern California. One can only imagine the types of couples she sees.

36 posted on 08/15/2014 5:32:59 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: fr_freak

“Once a guy has decided that marriage isn’t worth the risk of a vicious, state-encouraged divorce initiated by a “modern” woman who, after having slept with 20 guys by age 25 decides that her marriage doesn’t make her feel happy anymore, he often discovers how little money he needs to enjoy life.”

Exactly.


37 posted on 08/15/2014 5:34:58 PM PDT by AC86UT89
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To: Tau Food
And, you can bet that a lot of them are obese, out of shape and sedentary. I see them all the time with their beer bellies hanging over their belts, sitting on their huge toilet-busting butts, wondering why their women have lost all interest in them.

That, and they've kind of let the hygiene thing go too. Sorry, I just don't buy the women don't want to be married anymore or they want something different line. I'll bet he is no longer the courting handsome in-shape man she married.

They always make jokes about women getting fat, losing their sex drive, whatever, after marriage. Well, guys change too.

38 posted on 08/15/2014 5:41:30 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Drew68; x_plus_one; Patton@Bastogne; Oldeconomybuyer; RightField; aposiopetic; rbmillerjr; ...
"Fifty percent of marriages are still ending in divorce,"

Some researchers have relied on surveys rather than government statistics. In his book Inside America in 1984, pollster Louis Harris said that only about 11 or 12 percent of people who had ever been married had ever been divorced. Researcher George Barna's most recent survey of Americans in 2001 estimates that 34 percent of those who have ever been married have ever been divorced.


39 posted on 08/15/2014 5:45:06 PM PDT by narses
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To: fr_freak
Then why do either bother to begin with anymore-just get sterilized and do the serial monogamy thing your entire life. (generic you, not you)

Plenty of blame to go around. It certainly does not feel like, "you've come a long way baby".

40 posted on 08/15/2014 5:45:18 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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