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Police Militarization Is a Problem the Left and Right Can Agree About — and Solve
New York Magazine ^ | August 14, 2014 | Benjamin Wallace-Wells

Posted on 08/14/2014 2:41:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Vendome

Maybe congress and the senate?


61 posted on 08/14/2014 5:06:42 PM PDT by Iron Munro (<i>)
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To: Iron Munro

Bass turds!


62 posted on 08/14/2014 5:15:21 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: MeganC

No one can condone what the SWAT team did you to and your family. However, I do not understand what that has to do with the apparel that the police use in a riot control situation.


63 posted on 08/14/2014 5:20:03 PM PDT by Temujinshordes
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To: Temujinshordes

Yes and those dreaded “assault weapons” they are carrying.


64 posted on 08/14/2014 5:43:53 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: Cubs Fan

This situation has really brought out the Stormfront kooks.


65 posted on 08/14/2014 5:44:02 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: nickcarraway

give every law-abiding man in America an AR-15 and 100 rounds, and bring back the Bobbies....


66 posted on 08/14/2014 7:10:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Iron Munro
Maybe congress and the senate?

And which party controlled Congress and the Presidency during much of the early-mid 2000s?

67 posted on 08/14/2014 7:35:02 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: dragnet2

Sorry, but I have never seen police in military combat gear in the general public, nor have I seen police routinely driving military-style vehicles around town - they are usually driving Crown Vic’s and other very pedestrian models.

Of course,you could be thinking about SWAT teams, which most medium to large departments have. But those are very small, specialized units rarely deployed, but have been around for many decades.

Where have YOU been?


68 posted on 08/14/2014 7:37:20 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Ken H
And which party controlled Congress and the Presidency during much of the early-mid 2000s?

The RINO branch of The Big Government Party

Then the Batshit Crazy Lunatic Left branch of The Big Government Party booted them out and took over.


69 posted on 08/14/2014 7:47:24 PM PDT by Iron Munro (<i>)
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To: fwdude

” Of course,you could be thinking about
SWAT teams, which most medium to
large departments have. But those are
very small, specialized units rarely
deployed, but have been around for many
decades.

Where have YOU been?”

Where have you been? SWAT raids are at 80k a year now, over some of the most minor stuff. You might want to start watching that activity.


70 posted on 08/14/2014 7:59:29 PM PDT by LevinFan
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To: fwdude
Sorry, but I have never seen police in military combat gear in the general public

You said this was dial an argument.

No I did not.

You did...

I'm telling you, I did not!

You did too..

Oh I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?

Ah, just the five minutes.

Just the five minutes. Thank you.

Anyway, I did.

You most certainly did not!

71 posted on 08/14/2014 8:21:09 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: MeganC

> So, sorry, I’m not a fan of SWAT teams being misused and I > am less a fan of social workers.

I couldn’t agree MORE!

The most INSANE thing in what is supposed to be a free country is “no knock” warrants with militarized SWAT teams.

“No knock” is ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL! (4th Amendment)

The ability of social workers to take action without a court finding is ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL.


72 posted on 08/15/2014 7:17:39 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Temujinshordes

The police who dress up in combat gear do so to intimidate citizens. They also do it because they get a thrill out of putting on a costume that gives them license to do things they’d never do in a regular uniform. Not at all unlike the anarchists who put on black masks and then do things they’d never do if people could see their faces.


73 posted on 08/15/2014 8:05:30 AM PDT by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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To: Vendome

But do you advocate on the behalf of police state? Either way call the moderator!


74 posted on 08/15/2014 1:52:27 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Vendome

Hey butt kisser, show them this http://www.infowars.com/swat-team-claims-they-were-helping-in-tear-gassing-of-journalists/


75 posted on 08/15/2014 1:54:15 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad

Can’t stand Cop Suckers.

While I generally support the LEO community, I do not support their desire to make decisions as to who and who should or “may” have a weapon.

None of their business generally.

They are constantly looking to undermine my BoR’s, Looking for new opportunities to make contact with citizens, lobbying for laws that really are already on the books and bar criminals from certain activities.

Wearing a seat belt is a good idea but, it should not be actionable and when they started they said it wouldn’t be used as a primary for contacting. Further, I don’t believe there should be a law demanding a citizen comply for something that really, really doesn’t affect another person from personal responsibility perspective.

Same with cell phones. If you can’t drive and focus on your primary responsibility - safety 1st, then maybe you shouldn’t be driving.

My parents drove with 6 of us in the car and they never got into an accidentally.

Probably, because if my Dad had to pull over because we weren’t being quiet and not listening to his voice well, it usually wasn’t a good thing...

Cops shouldn’t have exclusivity for weapons and armament, much less how many rounds you can store or the number of rounds you can fit in to a magazine.

One picture on this thread shows a DEA agent with his buddies.

He has a 30 round mag taped to another 30 round mag, so he can easily and quickly reload by simply moving the attached magazine over.

Finally, sovereign immunity and limited immunity need to be changed to force a change in behavior from LEO community.

If they can’t objectively be held to the same standard as any Joe Citizen, then they are no longer servants, so much as they are caretakers, who can exercise restraint or not depending on how their day is going.


76 posted on 08/15/2014 2:11:02 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

You are proof of that.


77 posted on 08/15/2014 3:16:08 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad

Sticks and stones...


78 posted on 08/15/2014 3:18:02 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Jagdgewehr

This is not a racial problem.
It is in Ferguson! Whiter people don’t act like savages bent on lawlessness.
_________________________

Our nation’s founding fathers were all white. I’m sure the British thought that taking up muskets and firing at them was pretty Lawless. Just saying.


79 posted on 08/15/2014 4:15:07 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Yeah, our Founding Fathers didn't loot, burn and shit on everything like a bunch of frenzied, howling baboons. Taking up arms against your oppressors is a seditious act, unlawful in the eyes of the tyrant to be sure. But it's not comparable to acting like wild apes when one of their own thuggish kind get dispatched.

Just saying.

80 posted on 08/15/2014 8:07:29 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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