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British Smokers Being Denied Treatment by State-Run Healthcare Service
Breitbart London ^ | 8/11/2014 | David Atherton

Posted on 08/11/2014 3:20:34 AM PDT by markomalley

Scotland's second largest health board, NHS Lothian, will not be giving further treatment to smokers for non-urgent cases, with referrals from GPs being refused.

Dr. Zahid Raza said: "In Edinburgh, we will not see patients at the clinic that are still smoking. Evidence shows that they would not do well with the treatment." He also went onto say: "We try to avoid intervention and, in around 80 percent of cases, a smoker’s condition will improve just simply by stopping smoking and smoking other lifestyle changes."

Dr Jean Turner of the Scotland Patients Association said that she was "extremely disappointed", adding: "I'm really quite shocked. You should not refuse to see anybody and certainly not penalise patients who are smoking.

"It is very God like and highly unfair to refuse to see anybody referred…Doctors are there to see if they can help and relieve symptoms."

NHS Lothian is by no means unique. NHS Hertfordshire back in January 2012 also withdrew treatment to smokers and, as an ominous sign of the slippery slope, those with a Body Mass Index (BMI) of over 30 - i.e. the obese - are refused services too.

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I think that this is a great way for hospitals to control costs: only see healthy patients!</sarc>

Coming to a national health system near you.

1 posted on 08/11/2014 3:20:34 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

You can’t waste money on smokers if you’re going to provide sex-changes or breast implants for everyone who needs them. Smoking is an out-of-fashion lifestyle choice.


2 posted on 08/11/2014 3:23:32 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Tax-chick

Don’t forget abortions and fertility treatments!


3 posted on 08/11/2014 3:29:34 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: markomalley

“Not seeing patients that are still smoking”. That actually makes sense to me. If you’re not trying to help yourself. It’s like the old joke...”Doc...It hurts when I do this. Don’t do that”.


4 posted on 08/11/2014 3:30:24 AM PDT by albie
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To: markomalley
Why don't they save more money and just stop treating everyone. This also has the added benefit of "helping" with overpopulatipn.

Isn't it great that the democratts took away our healthcare system and gave us one just like this one? In fact ours is even better than the British NHS.

Instead of making medical decisions with our doctors (like before), the IRS now makes our decisions for us and our doctors, (Excluding our politicians of course-they exempted themselves from this policy).

5 posted on 08/11/2014 3:44:33 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: melsec

Excellent point!


6 posted on 08/11/2014 3:56:45 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: albie
Like I told one doctor: "Spare me the tobacco lecture and sew up my leg, willya?"

Really.

7 posted on 08/11/2014 3:56:47 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: albie

Then are you going to refund the tax money those smokers contributed to the system??????????????


8 posted on 08/11/2014 3:56:55 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Tax-chick

…and “gender re-assignment”…..


9 posted on 08/11/2014 3:57:23 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: markomalley
Scotland's second largest health board, NHS Lothian, will not be giving further treatment to smokers for non-urgent cases, with referrals from GPs being refused.

25% of Americans smoke, I was once one and my wife still is, and this will happen here, if obamacare isn't ripped out by the roots.

Obamacare has been and will continue to be a total disaster, but the one doesn't care, it will lead the USA further down the socialist path.

10 posted on 08/11/2014 4:00:04 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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“That actually makes sense to me. If you’re not trying to help yourself.”

Yep, any illness or injury related to lifestyle should be denied treatment. Overweight, high blood pressure, heart disease, STDs, sports injury, diabetics with anything other than perfect BMI, mental illness due to being an A-hole...


11 posted on 08/11/2014 4:04:26 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: albie
That actually makes sense to me.

You favor the gummint telling free people that they can not do things that are legal or they won't be treated in a hospital?

What if you had a few drinks and wrecked your car. Can they choose not to treat you?

You might want to rethink your post, not rethink, just think.

12 posted on 08/11/2014 4:05:05 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: markomalley

I wonder if they are going to refuse to treat rock climbers?


13 posted on 08/11/2014 4:09:12 AM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: markomalley

Bump.


14 posted on 08/11/2014 4:21:10 AM PDT by 4Liberty (Obama is O'Bryan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUoPNpa9Rrw)
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To: markomalley

Smoking doesn’t always kill. I get a chuckle when reading about the latest “oldest person alive” story and they elder attributing their longevity to having a shot of whiskey and smoking every day.

Should healthcare be denied to the percentage that won’t suffer any ill effects from smoking?

Certainly not, especially when health insurance is mandatory.

The article points out that due to taxes on tobacco specifically for health coverage and increased insurance rates because of smoking, that smokers pay double for healthcare and cost 22% less in lifetime care costs over healthy people!

The argument for government healthcare was that everyone is entitled to healthcare. Now we find that this is not true – only the politically sanctioned are entitled – but the politically incorrect are not entitled even if they do pay twice as much and cost 22% less.

Once we classify healthcare based on political correctness, everything comes into play: Gay, Straight, Jewish, Muslim, White, Black, Male, Female, etc.

We cannot have these distinctions when it comes to mandatory universal healthcare.

The words “mandatory” and “universal” should also apply to being treated, not just who has to pay.


15 posted on 08/11/2014 4:22:55 AM PDT by Ex-Pat in Mex
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To: C. Edmund Wright

And tattoo removal and gastric bypass ...


16 posted on 08/11/2014 4:29:08 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Beagle8U
mental illness due to being an A-hole…

Well played sir! (I notice Albie hasn't been back…….)

17 posted on 08/11/2014 4:42:00 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Beagle8U

STDs, especially HIV, will always be given special treatment.


18 posted on 08/11/2014 4:48:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

yep- and if you want to do any ransgender/makeitup
surgery- you go to the head of the LINE!

seriously started here in the U.S.- TRAITOR Manning-
in PRISON is getting what ever it wants-

other Honorably discharged soldiers?— take a number


19 posted on 08/11/2014 4:58:11 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: albie
So, you don't worry when your vice becomes politically-incorrect? Because whatever it is, it will. That's the whole point of this stuff - it's to get rid of the undesirables. I mean, unless you're a Washington elite or have so much money you can leave the country when this stuff coms to a theater near you.
20 posted on 08/11/2014 5:01:41 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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