Posted on 08/10/2014 8:07:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
No, this post is not about that kind of fantasy.
Instead, were dealing strictly with public policy and specifically addressing whether the libertarian agenda is unrealistic.
This is because when I talk to people about libertarianism, they often will say something mildly supportive such as: I like the idea of getting government out of my wallet and out of my bedroom.
But then the other shoe drops and they say something skeptical such as: But you folks are too idealistic in thinking the private sector can do everything.
If you ask them to elaborate why libertarian ideas are fantasies, youll usually hear comments such as:
Libertarians are crazy to think that we can replace Social Security with personal retirement accounts. Apparently theyre unaware that dozens of nations including Australia and Chile have very successful private systems.
Libertarians are silly to think that money could be handled by the private sector. Apparently theyre unaware that paper money was a creation of the private marketplace and that competitive currencies worked very well in many nations until they were banned by governments.
Libertarians are naive to think the mail could be delivered in the absence of a government monopoly. Apparently theyre unaware that many nations such as the United Kingdom and Germany have shifted to competitive private mail delivery.
Libertarians are foolish to think that the private sector could build and maintain roads. Apparently theyre unaware of what Im going to write about today.
It turns out that the private sector can build roads. And a great example happened earlier this year on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean. Here are some passages from a story out of the United Kingdom.
A grandfather sick of roadworks near his home defied his council and built his own toll road allowing people to circumvent the disrupted section. Opened on Friday, its the first private toll road built since cars became a familiar sight on British roads 100 years ago. Mike Watts, 62, hired a crew of workmen and ploughed £150,000 of his own cash into building a 365m long bypass road in a field next to the closed A431. He reckons it will cost another £150,000 in upkeep costs and to pay for two 24 hour a day toll booth operators. Father of four Mike asked his friend John Dinham if he would mind renting him the field until Christmas and hired three workmen to help build the road in just 10 days. He worked with the Highways Agency, has public liability insurance But a spokesman for the council said it was not happy about the bold build.
Wow, talk about the private sector coming to the rescue. Two things jump out from that story. First, it took only 10 days and £150,000 to build the road. If the government did it, it would take 20 times as long and cost 30 times as much.
The other noteworthy part of the story is that the local government isnt happy. Well, of course not. Mr. Watts showed them up.
Some of you may be thinking this is a once-in-a-lifetime story and that we shouldnt draw any lessons.
But thats why an article by Nick Zaiac in Londons City A.M. is a must read. He cites the new toll road, but puts it in historical context.
Adams work falls into a long tradition of private provision of public services in order to serve some private goal. Actions like these are not without precedent. In the American island state of Hawaii, residents and business owners gathered together in 2009 to fix a road through a state park that was vital to the area. They completed it entirely for free, with locals donating machinery, materials, and labor. In fact, the project was completed in a shockingly brief eight days. Private roads have a long and storied history in both Britain and the US. Between 1800 and 1830, private turnpikes made up an astounding 27 per cent of all business incorporations in the US. Britain, between 1750 and 1772, had previously experienced a period of turnpike mania, as noted by economic historians Daniel Klein and John Majewski. Put simply, private infrastructure is by no means a new thing. It is simply the slow return to the way many roads were originally built.
Nick then explains that the private sector is making a comeback, and not just for little projects in the United Kingdom and Hawaii.
Australia stands out as one of the leaders. There are currently eight P3 projects on the market, with others in the pipeline, ranging from new rail lines and roads to hospitals. Each of these projects brings private financing into traditionally public projects, with benefits to companies, taxpayers, and, local citizens. Even better, as David Haarmeyer notes in Regulation, infrastructure projects such as those funded public private partnerships serve as good, long-term investments for investors seeking safe returns. The traditional role of the government as infrastructure monopolist is slowly falling apart. Whether from grassroots efforts or large, complicated P3 projects such as the M6 Toll, the market is proving that it can provide infrastructure that people need, in one way or another.
John Stossel also has written on the topic and discussed modern-day examples of private sector involvement in the United States.
Heck, there are even private lanes on the Virginia side of the beltway that circles Washington!
So the moral of the story is that the private sector can do a lot more than people think.
In other words, libertarians may fantasize when they think of very small government. But the fantasy is not because libertarian policy is impractical. The fantasy is thinking (and hoping and praying and wishing) that politicians will actually do the right thing.
P.S. You want to know the best part of private roads? If theyre truly private, that means local governments wouldnt be able to use red-light cameras and ticket traps as scams to generate revenue!
P.P.S. As I explained on Wednesday (only partially tongue in cheek), Im willing to let the government be in charge of roads if the statists will agree to give people more personal and economic freedom in other areas. Im not holding my breath waiting for a positive reply.
P.P.P.S. Though if government continued to have authority to build and maintain roads, that doesnt mean Washington should play a role. The Department of Transportation should be abolished as quickly as possible.
My personal definition of libertarians (based on observation of the years) is that they are the ones who like to act smarter than everyone else, without the danger having to actually do anything.
Fair enough. I think, though, that there are two major brands of people who call themselves libertarians:
1. Traditional. Seeks to minimize government and infringement on civil liberties.
2. Cultural (not really libertarians but that’s how they self-label). In favor of abortion, gay marriage, and drug legalization. Don’t have any particular thoughts about reducing other government programs.
Don't be too sure. Can't these be rented out as franchises to the local towns and police?
That is an interesting read. You’ve done a lot of work!
Libertarian Dream: 12 year old drug addicted prostitutes for everyone
Interesting thoughts. Most self proclaimed conservatives do not see that. I do however think that fiscal conservatives should be in that list as well as non or minimal interventionists.
You might also mention the burning hatred that some of these groups have for each other.
The Libertarian Dread: Pot in every chicken.
s/b Dream....(my kingdom for an edit feature)
If you liked that, there is a lot more. What you read was but one of 26 chapters. That was a very small part of an unprecedented project meant (in part) to be a demonstration of what private property can do to restore functional and pure native plant habitat. If you click any "WP" logo on any page of that picture book, it will take you to the Table of Content.
lol
Pot-farm raised chickens in the freezer section
I consider myself a Libertarian conservative. I have the utmost respect for the chosen people of the ONE!
Why the lie filled hate fest against people that want to follow the constitution as closely as possible?
The problem I have with many who wish to legalize all drugs us that they view that choice as the magic bullet that brings nirvana. In the real world, legalizing crack, heroin, and cocaine will produce many more addicts who will not be able to maintain a good paying job and will have to turn toward theft and prostitution in order to get the monkey off their backs.
Now in the balance legalization may be the lesser of two evils. But it’s dishonest to portray legalization as a cure all.
So will libertarians force employers to hire users, or force taxpayers to pay for their treatments?
The latter is my big concern. Can you not envision Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton bewailing the “disparate impact” that legalized drugs have on “people of color?” Soon after followed by the “Drug Free Neighborhood Assistance Act” of 2120? Huge entitlements to treat and support these unfortunate souls?
Libertarianism?
COMPLETE PLATFORM TEXT
INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND CIVIL ORDER
IMMIGRATION:
The Issue: We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new Berlin Wall which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. governments policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.
The Principle: We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age or sexual preference. We oppose government welfare and resettlement payments to non-citizens just as we oppose government welfare payments to all other persons.
Solutions: We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. We strongly oppose all measures that punish employers who hire undocumented workers. Such measures repress free enterprise, harass workers, and systematically discourage employers from hiring Hispanics.
Transitional Action: We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.
I've never seen it portrayed that way.
Post 32 implies that there will no longer be people prostituting themselves, and by extension committing crimes, to pay for drugs after legalization. I have also heard many arguments that all the drug gangs will go away if drugs are legalized. It is perfectly obvious that none of these things are true. All sorts of drugs in higher doses, stronger formulations, or at lower prices, or for sale to minors that will not be allowed by law, will be the market segment of the gangs. I have heard it’s already happening in Washington, where is cheaper to buy pot from your regular dealer thsn from legal outlets.
I've never seen it portrayed that way.
Post 32 implies that there will no longer be people prostituting themselves, and by extension committing crimes, to pay for drugs after legalization. I have also heard many arguments that all the drug gangs will go away if drugs are legalized.
Well short of a "cure all" IMO.
It is perfectly obvious that none of these things are true. All sorts of drugs in higher doses, stronger formulations, or at lower prices, or for sale to minors that will not be allowed by law, will be the market segment of the gangs.
It is far from obvious that there is enough demand in those areas to generate a supply. Illegal alcohol is a miniscule phenomenon.
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