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Ted Cruz Channels Reagan: 'Mr. Putin, Give Back Crimea'
businessinsider.in ^ | July 30, 2014 | COLIN CAMPBELL

Posted on 07/30/2014 12:14:52 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
You are asking me to believe you instead of the data I have in front of me. If you can provide proof to back up your claims, then that would be very different.

Maybe you could set aside the data in front of you and actually travel to the region. You might learn something. And while you're there, you can get your passport stamped, get married, save some souvenir money, buy a coffee mug and a nice refrigerator magnet as I did.


61 posted on 07/30/2014 4:11:40 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
Maybe you could set aside the data in front of you and actually travel to the region.

And maybe you should stop repeating yourself, because you are not more persuasive the third time. I will stick with the data, and not someone who, apparently, does not question the results of a clearly fraudulent vote.

62 posted on 07/30/2014 4:14:03 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
I will stick with the data, and not someone who, apparently, does not question the results of a clearly fraudulent vote.

And I will stick with the observations I have made from actually traveling there and speaking with the locals.

To each their own, I suppose.

63 posted on 07/30/2014 4:20:18 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
To each their own, I suppose.

My polls and your stroll are not really opposing, actually. What you say cannot disprove a poll, and a poll would not disprove your neighborhood. If the poll is correct and 56 percent of people oppose annexation, then that means maybe 40 or more percent support it. That is a lot of flags, maybe, and a lot of locals for you to interrogate, and that is pretty close. But you do not prove your majority just by saying you came and saw all this. You can only prove it through an actual legal vote, without which you have no way to confidently claim anything.

64 posted on 07/30/2014 4:26:31 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Drew68
And I will stick with the observations I have made from actually traveling there and speaking with the locals.

That is why Nixon lost in 1972.

Pauline Kael of the New Yorker "I only know one person who voted for Nixon."

65 posted on 07/30/2014 6:08:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: GeronL
Crimea is part of Ukraine now. This is not about the age of Charlemagne

Crimea is part of Russia now. As it had been for a long, long time.

It was only by one of Kruschev's diktat that it was assigned to the Ukrainian SSR in 1954.

It is worth noting that when Ukraine voted for independence with 92% in favor, the vote carried Crimea by only 54%.

I'm not willing to dismiss the idea that the current inhabitants are in favor of being part of Russia over Ukraine, even as they preferred being part of Ukraine over being part of the USSR.

66 posted on 07/30/2014 6:24:58 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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Pretty soon most of the southwest will favor being part of Mexico too, that doesn’t make it right


67 posted on 07/30/2014 6:26:52 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: ansel12
Pauline Kael of the New Yorker "I only know one person who voted for Nixon."

Kael never traveled out to speak with the locals.

68 posted on 07/30/2014 6:33:47 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: GeronL
Pretty soon most of the southwest will favor being part of Mexico too, that doesn’t make it right

Mexicans aren't fleeing Mexico to claim the southwest back for Mexico.

Wouldn't this kind of defeat the purpose of leaving?

69 posted on 07/30/2014 6:35:30 PM PDT by Drew68
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I didn’t know that, what was she, quadriplegic and deaf, or something?

She didn’t walk on two legs and talk to humans like you?
I would say that she spent her time talking to people and not keeping up with the polls.


70 posted on 07/30/2014 6:37:41 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: GeronL
Pretty soon most of the southwest will favor being part of Mexico too, that doesn’t make it right

If most of the Southwest does favor being part of Mexico, what does the Declaration of Independence suggest is the proper course? Whence comes your sense of what is right?

From 1845-1854 do you think we were doing to Mexico was right?

I think a substantial part of the people that go through the trouble of migrating here do prefer to be in the U.S. as opposed to where they have taken such pains to leave. In my own opinion the 'Reconquista' propaganda is real, but deserves as much genuine concern as the neo-nazis, etc.

71 posted on 07/30/2014 7:13:47 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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