Posted on 07/26/2014 5:26:08 AM PDT by McGruff
The U.S. Embassy in Libya evacuated its personnel on Saturday because of ongoing militia violence in the capital, Tripoli, U.S. officials said.
About 150 personnel, including 80 U.S. Marines were evacuated from the embassy in the early hours of Saturday morning and were driven across the border into Tunisia, U.S. officials confirm to CNN.
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AND LBJ...
and the hippies, black panthers, weather underground (Bill Ayers), Abbie Hoffman etc etc etc.
No, they were successes but for the reasons I mentioned.
0. Overthrew the US government. Cronies now rule the US.
You and I will have to get together and define what a occupation is.
If Obamas surge that lasted more than a couple years..is not a occupation, then what the hell is it.?
If the second gulf war was not a full invasion and occupation of Iraq, then what is a occupation?
The SOFA, after a occupation, should not be optional! Period!
I had forgotten about Daddy Bush’s nato invasion and quit exit of Iraq to get Saddam out of Kuwait. It was successful for the limited scope and I just forgot it. So do a lot of other I suspect, since we had to go back.
BTW I fully supported going into Iraq on both occasions. I support Afganistan #1, but not the surge. The surge was a waste of men and money because it had a exit plan that was not only leaked to the enemy, it was trumpeted like it was a gift from Obama.
It neutered the entire enterprise. It’s a total loss. Just as Irag is now.
Iraq....
now I am shutting down both computers.
We still have a military presence in Japan, South Korea, Germany and Italy. Are we occupying those countries or are we there with the permission of the host government? As soon as there was a legitimate recognized government in those countries, it is no longer an occupation. They are sovereign countries with representation in the UN and other fora, They control their own borders. They are sovereign nations.
The SOFA, after a occupation, should not be optional! Period!
You must be joking. We have SOFAs with Italy, Germany, South Korea, Japan, etc. They come up periodically for renewal and amendment. What you think is irrelevant.
I had forgotten about Daddy Bush’s nato invasion and quit exit of Iraq to get Saddam out of Kuwait. It was successful for the limited scope and I just forgot it. So do a lot of other I suspect, since we had to go back.
I didn't forget because I was in Saudi Arabia from start to finish. I flew up to Kuwait a few days after the war was over including flying over and driving into the burning oil fields and the mile of death.
1980 – U.S. Army and Air Force units arrive in the Sinai in September as part of "Operation Bright Star". They are there to train with Egyptians armed forces as part of the Camp David peace accords signed in 1979. Elements of the 101st Airborne Division, (1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry) and Air Force MAC (Military Airlift Command) units are in theater for four months and are the first U.S. military forces in the region since World War II.
1981 – El Salvador: After a guerrilla offensive against the government of El Salvador, additional U.S. military advisers were sent to El Salvador, bringing the total to approximately 55, to assist in training government forces in counterinsurgency.[RL30172]
1981 – Libya: First Gulf of Sidra incident, on August 19, 1981, U.S. planes based on the carrier USS Nimitz shot down two Libyan jets over the Gulf of Sidra after one of the Libyan jets had fired a heat-seeking missile. The United States periodically held freedom of navigation exercises in the Gulf of Sidra, claimed by Libya as territorial waters but considered international waters by the United States.[RL30172]
1982 – Sinai: On March 19, 1982, President Reagan reported the deployment of military personnel and equipment to participate in the Multinational Force and Observers in the Sinai. Participation had been authorized by the Multinational Force and Observers Resolution, Public Law 97-132.[RL30172]
1982 – Lebanon: Multinational Force in Lebanon, on August 21, 1982, President Reagan reported the dispatch of 800 Marines to serve in the multinational force to assist in the withdrawal of members of the Palestine Liberation force from Beirut. The Marines left September 20, 1982.[RL30172]
1982–83 – Lebanon: On September 29, 1982, President Reagan reported the deployment of 1200 marines to serve in a temporary multinational force to facilitate the restoration of Lebanese government sovereignty. On September 29, 1983, Congress passed the Multinational Force in Lebanon Resolution (P.L. 98-119) authorizing the continued participation for eighteen months.[RL30172]
1983 – Egypt: After a Libyan plane bombed a city in Sudan on March 18, 1983, and Sudan and Egypt appealed for assistance, the United States dispatched an AWACS electronic surveillance plane to Egypt.[RL30172]
1983 – Grenada: Operation Urgent Fury, citing the increased threat of Soviet and Cuban influence and noting the development of an international airport following a coup d'état and alignment with the Soviet Union and Cuba, the U.S. invades the island nation of Grenada.[RL30172]
1983–89 – Honduras: In July 1983, the United States undertook a series of exercises in Honduras that some believed might lead to conflict with Nicaragua. On March 25, 1986, unarmed U.S. military helicopters and crewmen ferried Honduran troops to the Nicaraguan border to repel Nicaraguan troops.[RL30172]
1983 – Chad: On August 8, 1983, President Reagan reported the deployment of two AWACS electronic surveillance planes and eight F-15 fighter planes and ground logistical support forces to assist Chad against Libyan and rebel forces.[RL30172]
1984 – Persian Gulf: On June 5, 1984, Saudi Arabian jet fighter planes, aided by intelligence from a U.S. AWACS electronic surveillance aircraft and fueled by a U.S. KC-10 tanker, shot down two Iranian fighter planes over an area of the Persian Gulf proclaimed as a protected zone for shipping.[RL30172]
1985 – Italy: On October 10, 1985, U.S. Navy pilots intercepted an Egyptian airliner and forced it to land in Sicily. The airliner was carrying the hijackers of the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro who had killed an American citizen during the hijacking.[RL30172]
1986 – Libya: Action in the Gulf of Sidra (1986), on March 26, 1986, President Reagan reported on March 24 and 25, U.S. forces, while engaged in freedom of navigation exercises around the Gulf of Sidra, had been attacked by Libyan missiles and the United States had responded with missiles.[RL30172]
1986 – Libya: Operation El Dorado Canyon, on April 16, 1986, President Reagan reported that U.S. air and naval forces had conducted bombing strikes on terrorist facilities and military installations in the Libyan capitol of Tripoli, claiming that Libyan leader Col. Muammar Gaddafi was responsible for a bomb attack at a German disco that killed two U.S. soldiers.[RL30172]
1986 – Bolivia: U.S. Army personnel and aircraft assisted Bolivia in anti-drug operations.[RL30172]
1987 – Persian Gulf: USS Stark was struck on May 17 by two Exocet antiship missiles fired from a Dassault Mirage F1 of the Iraqi Air Force during the Iran–Iraq War, killing 37 U.S. Navy sailors.
1987 – Persian Gulf: Operation Nimble Archer. Attacks on two Iranian oil platforms in the Persian Gulf by United States Navy forces on October 19. The attack was a response to Iran's October 16, 1987 attack on the MV Sea Isle City, a reflagged Kuwaiti oil tanker at anchor off Kuwait, with a Silkworm missile.
1987–88 – Persian Gulf: Operation Earnest Will. After the Iran–Iraq War (the Tanker War phase) resulted in several military incidents in the Persian Gulf, the United States increased U.S. joint military forces operations in the Persian Gulf and adopted a policy of reflagging and escorting Kuwaiti oil tankers through the Persian Gulf to protect them from Iraqi and Iranian attacks. President Reagan reported that U.S. ships had been fired upon or struck mines or taken other military action on September 21 (Iran Ajr), October 8, and October 19, 1987 and April 18 (Operation Praying Mantis), July 3, and July 14, 1988. The United States gradually reduced its forces after a cease-fire between Iran and Iraq on August 20, 1988.[RL30172] It was the largest naval convoy operation since World War II.[7]
1987–88 – Persian Gulf: Operation Prime Chance was a United States Special Operations Command operation intended to protect U.S.-flagged oil tankers from Iranian attack during the Iran–Iraq War. The operation took place roughly at the same time as Operation Earnest Will.
1988 – Persian Gulf: Operation Praying Mantis was the April 18, 1988 action waged by U.S. naval forces in retaliation for the Iranian mining of the Persian Gulf and the subsequent damage to an American warship.
1988 – Honduras: Operation Golden Pheasant was an emergency deployment of U.S. troops to Honduras in 1988, as a result of threatening actions by the forces of the (then socialist) Nicaraguans.
1988 – USS Vincennes shoot-down of Iran Air Flight 655.
1988 – Panama: In mid-March and April 1988, during a period of instability in Panama and as the United States increased pressure on Panamanian head of state General Manuel Noriega to resign, the United States sent 1,000 troops to Panama, to "further safeguard the canal, US lives, property and interests in the area." The forces supplemented 10,000 U.S. military personnel already in the Panama Canal Zone.[RL30172]
1989 – Libya: Second Gulf of Sidra incident. On January 4, 1989, two U.S. Navy F-14 aircraft based on the USS John F. Kennedy shot down two Libyan jet fighters over the Mediterranean Sea about 70 miles north of Libya. The U.S. pilots said the Libyan planes had demonstrated hostile intentions.[RL30172]
1989 – Panama: On May 11, 1989, in response to General Noriega's disregard of the results of the Panamanian election, President Bush ordered a brigade-sized force of approximately 1,900 troops to augment the estimated 1,000 U.S. forces already in the area.[RL30172]
1989 – Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru: Andean Initiative in War on Drugs, On September 15, 1989, President Bush announced that military and law enforcement assistance would be sent to help the Andean nations of Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru combat illicit drug producers and traffickers. By mid-September there were 50–100 U.S. military advisers in Colombia in connection with transport and training in the use of military equipment, plus seven Special Forces teams of 2–12 persons to train troops in the three countries.[RL30172]
1989 – Philippines: Operation Classic Resolve, On December 2, 1989, President Bush reported that on December 1, Air Force fighters from Clark Air Base in Luzon had assisted the Aquino government to repel a coup attempt. In addition, 100 marines were sent from U.S. Naval Base Subic Bay to protect the United States Embassy in Manila.[RL30172]
1989–90 – Panama: Operation Just Cause, On December 21, 1989, President Bush reported that he had ordered U.S. military forces to Panama to protect the lives of American citizens and bring General Noriega to justice. By February 13, 1990, all the invasion forces had been withdrawn.[RL30172] Around 200 Panamanian civilians were reported killed. The Panamanian head of state, General Manuel Noriega, was captured and brought to the U.S. 1990–1999
1990 – Liberia: On August 6, 1990, President Bush reported that a reinforced rifle company had been sent to provide additional security to the U.S. Embassy in Monrovia, and that helicopter teams had evacuated U.S. citizens from Liberia.[RL30172]
1990 – Saudi Arabia: On August 9, 1990, President Bush reported that he launched Operation Desert Shield by ordering the forward deployment of substantial elements of the U.S. armed forces into the Persian Gulf region to help defend Saudi Arabia after the August 2 invasion of Kuwait by Iraq. On November 16, 1990, he reported the continued buildup of the forces to ensure an adequate offensive military option.[RL30172]American hostages being held in Iran.[RL30172] Staging point for the troops was primarily Bagram air field.
1991 – Iraq and Kuwait: Operation Desert Storm, On January 16, 1991, in response to the refusal by Iraq to leave Kuwait, U.S. and Coalition aircraft attacked Iraqi forces and military targets in Iraq and Kuwait in conjunction with a coalition of allies and under United Nations Security Council resolutions. On February 24, 1991, U.S.-led United Nation (UN) forces launched a ground offensive that finally drove Iraqi forces out of Kuwait within 100 hours. Combat operations ended on February 28, 1991, when President Bush declared a ceasefire.[RL30172]
1991–96 – Iraq: Operation Provide Comfort, Delivery of humanitarian relief and military protection for Kurds fleeing their homes in northern Iraq during the 1991 uprising, by a small Allied ground force based in Turkey which began in April 1991.
1991 – Iraq: On May 17, 1991, President Bush stated that the Iraqi repression of the Kurdish people had necessitated a limited introduction of U.S. forces into northern Iraq for emergency relief purposes.[RL30172]
1991 – Zaire: On September 25–27, 1991, after widespread looting and rioting broke out in Kinshasa, Air Force C-141s transported 100 Belgian troops and equipment into Kinshasa. American planes also carried 300 French troops into the Central African Republic and hauled evacuated American citizens.[RL30172]
1992 – Sierra Leone: Operation Silver Anvil, Following the April 29 coup that overthrew President Joseph Saidu Momoh, a United States European Command (USEUCOM) Joint Special Operations Task Force evacuated 438 people (including 42 Third Country nationals) on May 3. Two Air Mobility Command (AMC) C-141s flew 136 people from Freetown, Sierra Leone, to the Rhein-Main Air Base in Germany and nine C-130 sorties carried another 302 people to Dakar, Senegal.[RL30172]
1992–96 – Bosnia and Herzegovina: Operation Provide Promise was a humanitarian relief operation in Bosnia and Herzegovina during the Yugoslav Wars, from July 2, 1992, to January 9, 1996, which made it the longest running humanitarian airlift in history.[8]
1992 – Kuwait: On August 3, 1992, the United States began a series of military exercises in Kuwait, following Iraqi refusal to recognize a new border drawn up by the United Nations and refusal to cooperate with UN inspection teams.[RL30172]
1992–2003 – Iraq: Iraqi no-fly zones, The U.S., United Kingdom, and its Gulf War allies declared and enforced "no-fly zones" over the majority of sovereign Iraqi airspace, prohibiting Iraqi flights in zones in southern Iraq and northern Iraq, and conducting aerial reconnaissance and bombings. Often, Iraqi forces continued throughout a decade by firing on U.S. and British aircraft patrolling no-fly zones.(See also Operation Northern Watch, Operation Southern Watch) [RL30172]
1992–95 – Somalia: Operation Restore Hope, Somali Civil War: On December 10, 1992, President Bush reported that he had deployed U.S. armed forces to Somalia in response to a humanitarian crisis and a UN Security Council Resolution in support for UNITAF. The operation came to an end on May 4, 1993. U.S. forces continued to participate in the successor United Nations Operation in Somalia (UNOSOM II).(See also Battle of Mogadishu)[RL30172]
1993–95 – Bosnia: Operation Deny Flight, On April 12, 1993, in response to a United Nations Security Council passage of Resolution 816, U.S. and NATO enforced the no-fly zone over the Bosnian airspace, prohibited all unauthorized flights and allowed to "take all necessary measures to ensure compliance with [the no-fly zone restrictions]."
1993 – Macedonia: On July 9, 1993, President Clinton reported the deployment of 350 U.S. soldiers to the Republic of Macedonia to participate in the UN Protection Force to help maintain stability in the area of former Yugoslavia.[RL30172]
1994 – Bosnia: Banja Luka incident, NATO become involved in the first combat situation when NATO U.S. Air Force F-16 jets shot down four of the six Bosnian Serb J-21 Jastreb single-seat light attack jets for violating UN-mandated no-fly zone.
1994–95 – Haiti: Operation Uphold Democracy, U.S. ships had begun embargo against Haiti. Up to 20,000 U.S. military troops were later deployed to Haiti to restore democratically-elected Haiti President Jean-Bertrand Aristide from a military regime which came into power in 1991 after a major coup.[RL30172]
1994 – Macedonia: On April 19, 1994, President Clinton reported that the U.S. contingent in Macedonia had been increased by a reinforced company of 200 personnel.[RL30172]
1995 – Bosnia: Operation Deliberate Force, On August 30, 1995, U.S. and NATO aircraft began a major bombing campaign of Bosnian Serb Army in response to a Bosnian Serb mortar attack on a Sarajevo market that killed 37 people on August 28, 1995. This operation lasted until September 20, 1995. The air campaign along with a combined allied ground force of Muslim and Croatian Army against Serb positions led to a Dayton Agreement in December 1995 with the signing of warring factions of the war. As part of Operation Joint Endeavor, U.S. and NATO dispatched the Implementation Force (IFOR) peacekeepers to Bosnia to uphold the Dayton agreement.[RL30172]
1996 – Liberia: Operation Assured Response, On April 11, 1996, President Clinton reported that on April 9, 1996 due to the :"deterioration of the security situation and the resulting threat to American citizens" in Liberia he had ordered U.S. military forces to evacuate from that country "private U.S. citizens and certain third-country nationals who had taken refuge in the U.S. Embassy compound...."[RL30172]
1996 – Central African Republic, Operation Quick Response: On May 23, 1996, President Clinton reported the deployment of U.S. military personnel to Bangui, Central African Republic, to conduct the evacuation from that country of "private U.S. citizens and certain U.S. government employees", and to provide "enhanced security for the American Embassy in Bangui."[RL30172] United States Marine Corps elements of Joint Task Force Assured Response, responding in nearby Liberia, provided security to the embassy and evacuated 448 people, including between 190 and 208 Americans. The last Marines left Bangui on June 22.
1996 – Kuwait: Operation Desert Strike, American Air Strikes in the north to protect the Kurdish population against the Iraqi Army attacks. U.S. deploys 5,000 soldiers from the 1ST Cavalry Division at Ft Hood Texas in response to Iraqi attacks on the Kurdish people.[citation needed]
1996 – Bosnia: Operation Joint Guard, On December 21, 1996, U.S. and NATO established the SFOR peacekeepers to replace the IFOR in enforcing the peace under the Dayton agreement.
1997 – Albania: Operation Silver Wake, On March 13, 1997, U.S. military forces were used to evacuate certain U.S. government employees and private U.S. citizens from Tirana, Albania.[RL30172]
1997 – Congo and Gabon: On March 27, 1997, President Clinton reported on March 25, 1997, a standby evacuation force of U.S. military personnel had been deployed to Congo and Gabon to provide enhanced security and to be available for any necessary evacuation operation.[RL30172]
1997 – Sierra Leone: On May 29 and May 30, 1997, U.S. military personnel were deployed to Freetown, Sierra Leone, to prepare for and undertake the evacuation of certain U.S. government employees and private U.S. citizens.[RL30172] 1997 – Cambodia: On July 11, 1997, In an effort to ensure the security of American citizens in Cambodia during a period of domestic conflict there, a Task Force of about 550 U.S. military personnel were deployed at Utapao Air Base in Thailand for possible evacuations. [RL30172]
1998 – Iraq: Operation Desert Fox, U.S. and British forces conduct a major four-day bombing campaign from December 16–19, 1998 on Iraqi targets.[RL30172]
1998 – Guinea-Bissau: Operation Shepherd Venture, On June 10, 1998, in response to an army mutiny in Guinea-Bissau endangering the U.S. Embassy, President Clinton deployed a standby evacuation force of U.S. military personnel to Dakar, Senegal, to evacuate from the city of Bissau.[RL30172]
1998–99 – Kenya and Tanzania: U.S. military personnel were deployed to Nairobi, Kenya, to coordinate the medical and disaster assistance related to the bombing of the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.[RL30172]
1998 – Afghanistan and Sudan: Operation Infinite Reach, On August 20, President Clinton ordered a cruise missile attack against two suspected terrorist training camps in Afghanistan and a suspected chemical factory in Sudan.[RL30172]
1998 – Liberia: On September 27, 1998, America deployed a stand-by response and evacuation force of 30 U.S. military personnel to increase the security force at the U.S. Embassy in Monrovia. [1] [RL30172]
1999–2001 – East Timor: Limited number of U.S. military forces deployed with the United Nations-mandated International Force for East Timor restore peace to East Timor.[RL30172]
1999 – Serbia: Operation Allied Force: U.S. and NATO aircraft began a major bombing of Serbia and Serb positions in Kosovo on March 24, 1999, during the Kosovo War due to the refusal by Serbian President Slobodan Milošević to end repression against ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. This operation ended in June 10, 1999, when Milošević agreed to pull out his troops out of Kosovo. In response to the situation in Kosovo, NATO dispatched the KFOR peacekeepers to secure the peace under UNSC Resolution 1244.[RL30172] 2000–2009
2000 – Sierra Leone: On May 12, 2000, a U.S. Navy patrol craft deployed to Sierra Leone to support evacuation operations from that country if needed.[RL30172]
2000 – Nigeria: Special Forces troops are sent to Nigeria to lead a training mission in the county.[9]
2000 – Yemen: On October 12, 2000, after the USS Cole attack in the port of Aden, Yemen, military personnel were deployed to Aden.[RL30172]
2000 – East Timor: On February 25, 2000, a small number of U.S. military personnel were deployed to support the United Nations Transitional Administration in East Timor (UNTAET). [RL30172]
2001 – On April 1, 2001, a mid-air collision between a United States Navy EP-3E ARIES II signals surveillance aircraft and a People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) J-8II interceptor fighter jet resulted in an international dispute between the United States and the People's Republic of China called the Hainan Island incident.
2001 – War in Afghanistan: The War on Terror begins with Operation Enduring Freedom. On October 7, 2001, U.S. Armed Forces invade Afghanistan in response to the 9/11 attacks and "begin combat action in Afghanistan against Al Qaeda terrorists and their Taliban supporters."[RL30172]
2002 – Yemen: On November 3, 2002, an American MQ-1 Predator fired a Hellfire missile at a car in Yemen killing Qaed Salim Sinan al-Harethi, an al-Qaeda leader thought to be responsible for the USS Cole bombing.[RL30172]
2002 – Philippines: OEF-Philippines, As of January, U.S. "combat-equipped and combat support forces" have been deployed to the Philippines to train with, assist and advise the Philippines' Armed Forces in enhancing their "counterterrorist capabilities."[RL30172]
2002 – Côte d'Ivoire: On September 25, 2002, in response to a rebellion in Côte d'Ivoire, U.S. military personnel went into Côte d'Ivoire to assist in the evacuation of American citizens from Bouaké.[10] [RL30172]
2003–2011 – War in Iraq: Operation Iraqi Freedom, March 20, 2003, The United States leads a coalition that includes the United Kingdom, Australia and Poland to invade Iraq with the stated goal being "to disarm Iraq in pursuit of peace, stability, and security both in the Gulf region and in the United States."[RL30172]
2003 – Liberia: Second Liberian Civil War, On June 9, 2003, President Bush reported that on June 8 he had sent about 35 U.S. Marines into Monrovia, Liberia, to help secure the U.S. Embassy in Nouakchott, Mauritania, and to aid in any necessary evacuation from either Liberia or Mauritania.[RL30172]
2003 – Georgia and Djibouti: "US combat equipped and support forces" had been deployed to Georgia and Djibouti to help in enhancing their "counterterrorist capabilities."[11]
2004 – Haiti: 2004 Haitian coup d'état occurs, The US first sent 55 combat equipped military personnel to augment the U.S. Embassy security forces there and to protect American citizens and property in light. Later 200 additional US combat-equipped, military personnel were sent to prepare the way for a UN Multinational Interim Force, MINUSTAH.[RL30172]
2004 – War on Terrorism: U.S. anti-terror related activities were underway in Georgia, Djibouti, Kenya, Ethiopia, Yemen, and Eritrea.[12]
2004–present: Drone attacks in Pakistan
2005–06 – Pakistan: President Bush deploys troops from US Army Air Cav Brigades to provide Humanitarian relief to far remote villages in the Kashmir mountain ranges of Pakistan stricken by a massive earthquake.
2006 – Lebanon, U.S. Marine Detachment, the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit[citation needed], begins evacuation of U.S. citizens willing to leave the country in the face of a likely ground invasion by Israel and continued fighting between Hezbollah and the Israeli military.[13][14]
2007 – Somalia: Battle of Ras Kamboni, On January 8, 2007, while the conflict between the Islamic Courts Union and the Transitional Federal Government continues, an AC-130 gunship conducts an aerial strike on a suspected al-Qaeda operative, along with other Islamist fighters, on Badmadow Island near Ras Kamboni in southern Somalia.[15]
2008 – South Ossetia, Georgia: Helped Georgia humanitarian aid,[16] helped to transport Georgian forces from Iraq during the conflict. In the past, the US has provided training and weapons to Georgia.
2010–present
2010–11 – War in Iraq: Operation New Dawn, On February 17, 2010, U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates announced that as of September 1, 2010, the name "Operation Iraqi Freedom" would be replaced by "Operation New Dawn". This coincides with the reduction of American troops to 50,000.
2011 – Libya: Operation Odyssey Dawn, Coalition forces enforcing U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973 with bombings of Libyan forces.
2011 – Osama Bin Laden is killed by U.S. military forces in Pakistan as part of Operation Neptune Spear.
2011 – Drone strikes on al-Shabab militants begin in Somalia.[17] This marks the 6th nation in which such strikes have been carried out,[18] including Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Yemen[19] and Libya.
2011 – Uganda: U.S. Combat troops sent in as advisers to Uganda.[20]
2012 – Jordan: 150 U.S. troops deployed to Jordan to help it contain the Syrian Civil War within Syria's borders.
2012 – Turkey: 400 troops and two batteries of Patriot missiles sent to Turkey to prevent any missile strikes from Syria.
2012 – Chad: 50 U.S. troops have deployed to the African country of Chad to help evacuate U.S. citizens and embassy personnel from the neighboring Central African Republic's capital of Bangui in the face of rebel advances toward the city.
2013 – Mali: U.S. forces assisted the French in Operation Serval with air refueling and transport aircraft.
2013 – Somalia: U.S. Air Force planes supported the French in the Bulo Marer hostage rescue attempt. However, they did not use any weapons.
2013 – 2013 Korean crisis
2013 – Navy SEALs conducted a raid in Somalia and possibly killed a senior Al-Shabaab official, simultaneously another raid took place in Tripoli, Libya, where Special Operations Forces captured Abu Anas al Libi (also known as Anas al-Libi)[21]
2014 – Uganda: V-22 Ospreys, MC-130s, KC-135s and additional U.S. soldiers are sent to Uganda to continue to help African forces search for Joseph Kony. [22]
2014 - Iraq: 2014 Northern Iraq offensive 500 U.S. troops, AH-64s, and unmanned drones deployed to protect the American Embassy in Baghdad and advise Iraqi forces. [23]
I must apologize.
Apparently I am writing in a foreign language or you are.
You are not getting at all what I have said. For example.
You go off on this diatribe about Sofa and you compare it to places where we have troops stationed in friendly countries when I have already addressed the issue by saying that SOFAS should not be used with occupied countries and then you go off on wild rip and totally misrepresent what I am saying.
I think we should stop right here and part ways, because after multiple attempts, I cannot even get close to being on the same page with you. These concepts are you have are foreign to me and you are misrepresenting what I am saying.
So I give up. No point in continuing. I just say the same thing is a slightly different way to try to get some sort of understanding. and I get the same responses that are so far off what I said that they might as well be Farsi.
All I have figured out is that Iraq was not a occupation, nor was the surge in Afghanistan Nor was any war according to you. Except Japan and Germany.
I suppose you don’t think that Israel is not at least temporarily occupying Gaza to ferret out the tunnels and launchers.
I suppose that a mass military incursion into a foreign country or territory whether invited not when you kill, strafe, shell inhabitants of the country and engage in general warfare, that doing that is not in any way a occupation, even if you are there for years.
Let’s just stop with the political non-speak like “police actions” which has apparently been replaced with what...a deployment?
It’s just as fake and phony as the police action.
You don’t get me, because you don’t want to get what I am saying. Afghanistan is a deployment because one guy, the president resides in Kabul with all the money and wealth he can steal. So you protect his goat stinking hide in Kabul while he and his family steal you blind and undermine the task.
So that’s a deployment...not a occupation because you let one guy roam about Kabul who calls himself president.
Now are you getting me...?
I doubt it.
The discussion I am trying to have with you is to change all this crap back to what it was before it was screwed with by politicians. Make it honest and forthright so everyone understands it. A deployment should be a stay in a country that invited you where you are there as a deterrent
and not fighting their civil war for them.
If you have to do that, then kick the government out and occupy them until such a time as they can do their own business without old hatreds and 1500 year old arguments. If that takes 50 years, then you stay 50 years with no friggin sofa unless you are ready to leave and they want you there as a deterrent at their request.
Other wise, don’t get involved unless there is a real strategically important interest. Or, do it politically with a proxy or group to do the heavy lifting. That would apply to the Ukraine. Nice and neat...no mess to clean up and no broken toys or soldiers.
In other words, Since you probably think they are all Nazi’s, arm them or pay them to give the Russian nationals a real not foot.
rant over.....CU
Hot Foot.....Can’t type anymore...
Have they found a video to blame it on, yet?
So help me out here. When do 80 US Marines need a “military escort.”? Or was the escort Libyan military? In spite of the same story noting later that Libya ain’t got much “military.”? Who the bleep was escorting who? Maybe somebody will find out who the genius was who decided Tunisia was just the place to go?
Maybe you don’t know it, but you are talking to a old warrior. One who year after year has been getting more and more PO’d at the way these military actions are prosecuted and sold to the public.
It was a problem in it’s infancy when I was wearing the uniform and now it’s all verbal diarrhea. Means nothing to a civilian and they have to fund and provide their kids to go play Army and when you can’t trust the leadership and it’s double talk, You don’t want your kids participating.
Well that is where I am. It was bad in 1969 when I enlisted to go kill a few to pay them back for friends that did not come back. But now....there is no truth in government any more. No trust. No feeling of well being when the government decides it need to protect some sand dunes. Then they mislead, use double speak, allow politicians to once again tie their hands behind their backs to fight.
They are so afraid of losing public support, and I totally get that, it happened in Nam, but the loss of support is started by the bullshit ladled out by the Military for what ever reason, it does not matter.
If the cause remained just, they could say nothing and most would understand.
That does not mean you can label a operation “Just Cause” and people will buy it.
Anyway....stay sharp Kabar, and don’t let your knife fall in salt water. Ruined several of them that way.
We have more reliable news from Russian agencies than from any US media outlet. The US free press exists no more. I get all my news from twitter and then filter on my own.
“Maybe somebody will find out who the genius was who decided Tunisia was just the place to go?”
Just a guess but it’s probably their bug out escape route, pre planned.
Actually, Ukraine is the definition of “strategic” to the Russians. It’s called their breadbasket meaning most of their home grown grain products come from the area. It’s the best farmland Ivan has. It’s sort of lost in the fine print but Pootin was having trouble selling them enough gas to pay for the grain that he needs. Good farmland might not usually be thot of as strategic but if you ain’t got it you ain’t got groceries.
It’s a realty show with the crisis of the week.
You negotiate SOFAs with sovereign host governments. You don't need a SOFA if you occupy and run the country. Understand?
I think we should stop right here and part ways, because after multiple attempts, I cannot even get close to being on the same page with you. These concepts are you have are foreign to me and you are misrepresenting what I am saying.
I gather that those concepts are foreign to you. They aren't to me. I have spent 8 years as a naval officer and 28 years as a foreign service officer. I have lived in 11 different countries and traveled to 70 more. I understand how SOFA agreements work and how diplomacy is conducted. We are definitely on different pages and probably in a different book.
All I have figured out is that Iraq was not a occupation, nor was the surge in Afghanistan Nor was any war according to you. Except Japan and Germany.
A country is no longer occupied when it has a sovereign, independent government. We went thru an occupation phase in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp? We went thru the same thing with Germany and Japan.
I suppose you don’t think that Israel is not at least temporarily occupying Gaza to ferret out the tunnels and launchers.
They have invaded parts of Gaza, but I don't expect them to stay very long. They are not talking about removing the current governing coalition and replacing it. Israel is staging a military operation.
You don’t get me, because you don’t want to get what I am saying. Afghanistan is a deployment because one guy, the president resides in Kabul with all the money and wealth he can steal. So you protect his goat stinking hide in Kabul while he and his family steal you blind and undermine the task. So that’s a deployment...not a occupation because you let one guy roam about Kabul who calls himself president.
Karzai was elected. The Afghans just had another election and the results are still coming in. The new government will sign a SOFA with the US.
The discussion I am trying to have with you is to change all this crap back to what it was before it was screwed with by politicians. Make it honest and forthright so everyone understands it. A deployment should be a stay in a country that invited you where you are there as a deterrent and not fighting their civil war for them.
We went into Afghanistan because the 9/11 attack was planned there. The Taliban provided a sanctuary for AQ. We went in to eliminate that sanctuary and remove the government that supported them. We went into Iraq for these reasons contained in the 2002 Joint Resolution of Congress. We removed a dictator who invaded two countries (Iran and Kuwait) and used WMD against his own people and the Iranians. This allowed Iraq to draft its own Constitution and stage free elections.
If you have to do that, then kick the government out and occupy them until such a time as they can do their own business without old hatreds and 1500 year old arguments. If that takes 50 years, then you stay 50 years with no friggin sofa unless you are ready to leave and they want you there as a deterrent at their request.
There is no political will to make such a commitment nor do we have the resources to do it.
Yeah it is...so are a few others that they have Russian populations in.
But It’s too late for us to prevent them doing what they want to do, and all of that is really accomplished.
The rest should not take long, because we did nothing early on, and now the government is falling apart like a cheap suit.
I dunno, but it looks to me like Obama has already made a deal for a favor with Putin. He and the military brass seem to be going through the motions, and some rhetoric but that’s all.
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