Posted on 07/23/2014 1:15:49 PM PDT by chessplayer
“NASA is Pointless, Declares Creationist” may be a rather obvious headline, but Ken Ham took it one step further and declared why NASA is pointless: because they’re searching for extraterrestrial life, and according to the Bible, aliens are going to go to hell anyways, so why even bother?
“Jesus did not become the ‘GodKlingon’ or the ‘GodMartian’!” he declared in a Sunday column on his website, Answering Genesis. “Only descendants of Adam can be saved.”
(Ham) You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam’s sin affected the whole universe. This means that any aliens would also be affected by Adam’s sin, but because they are not Adam’s descendants, they can’t have salvation.
(Excerpt) Read more at mediaite.com ...
I shouldn't read threads like these at work...it's hard to suppress the laughter.
People assume that in Jn 10:16 Christ meant other Gentiles on Planet Earth when he said "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."
What if he meant a fold somewhere in a galaxy far, far away?
Just curious. Is Jesus/God the Father not almighty enough to be anywhere in the universe at the same time?
Where is it written that God cannot, has not, or will not in the future create other species also in His image?
What does that have to do with what Ham said?
I view all science as a means to learn about the Creator. Like a piece of art, His being [personality/self] is revealed in it from the tiniest nano-particle to the most complex whatever-there-is-out-there that we have not seen.
When heaven and earth are one - what a wonderful learning experience...could take all of eternity! And everything we know now will be moot, useless, inapplicable. I love thinking about this stuff. I get so excited! To settle myself down I think about when Jesus reigns, and it is peaceful.
Hey! When He comes back...do you think there will be aliens with the armies of heaven? There are some hanging around the throne, you know.
This is actually good that he said this. It will help show the world how misguided and theologically wrong he is.
Intelligent Design is The Way to go. Everyone should read “I Don’t Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist” by Dr. Norman Geisler.
The quote in Mediaite is accurat. Ken Ham said what they said.
http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2014/07/20/well-find-a-new-earth-within-20-years/
“This means that any aliens would also be affected by Adam’s sin, but because they are not Adam’s descendants, they can’t have salvation.” Note that Ham inadvertently(?) switches from subjunctive mode to indicative within the sentence.
Ham “answers” his critics, but it is grammatical trickery. He says that he couldn’t have said that extraterrestrials cannot be saved, since he doesn’t believe in them. However in the original article, he says specifically that the Bible is silent on the topic of ETs. Therefore, by his own standards of biblical interpretation, he does not know and cannot comment intelligently.
Mediaite appears more honest than Ham to me in this case.
I don't know if there are little green men out there somewhere ... I do know that if there are, they are God's creatures ... and that He made them for a reason ... and that He will take care of them properly.
And maybe Adam and Eve were “put” here (created) by non human entities.
Once we go back a few thousand years it gets a little fuzzy.
Well, for one thing, if extraterrestrial aliens exist, we need to know if they make good eatin'... with a little BBQ sauce.
IF intelligent alien life exists, how can this man be so sure that God did not send them their own savior to save them from their sins?
Nice!
“And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”
Christians operate on the basis of what has been written in the biblical texts. There is no authoritative source regarding other self-aware, intelligent creatures as the object of creation, but only speculation. The correct iteration would be that God has only revealed Mankind to be the object of His incarnate being, with the balance of creation included as under the domain of both God and Man.
If a creature wants to make it his prerogative to question the Creator and what He has revealed about Himself, he may do so in fine company, with great applause, and with ample self-comfort. But on that account he has no authority other than his own imagination, a creative one at that, since he is created in the image of God.
;-)
I’ll have to disagree with Ham on NASA funding,
but, SETI, on the other hand, IS pointless,
besides giving atheists some sort of hope that life will be found,
proving that it happened by accident all over the place.
For another thing, if extraterrestrial aliens exist, we need to know if they think WE make good eatin' ... with or without BBQ sauce ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_the_Silent_Planet
Non-Earth based non-Human Intelligent Races may not be Fallen, and have remained in submission to “Maleldil”. Intelligent Races may be non-human prior to Jesus coming to Earth.
A lot of Theoretical discussion on an alternate Cosmology
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