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Russian Media on Downed Airliner: The CIA Did It
nbcnews.com ^ | July 21, 2014

Posted on 07/21/2014 1:16:53 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Just one day after the horrific tragedy that left 298 people dead, Russia's Channel One ran a package telling its audience that the entire incident was orchestrated by the United States, specifically by the CIA. A document was broadcast purportedly showing that the U.S. was planning to do the same thing during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.

Viewers learned that the "U.S. orchestrated this because Ukrainian government is not sophisticated enough to orchestrate this," according to the broadcast, which was translated from the original Russian by CNBC. According to Channel One, Russia's swift economic growth has inspired the United States to try to damage Russia's economy.

The government of Russian President Vladimir Putin financially supports and editorially controls a domestic media machine that has become reminiscent of the Soviet propaganda machine, and the former KGB agent has shut down most independent news channels that may stray from the Kremlin line.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Russia
KEYWORDS: 201407; amnesty; brennan; diversion; eu; imf; mh17; putin; samanthapower; setuprussia; soros; ukraine
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Actually, that’s not true. The IRS hearings are continuing.

23 Ukraine stories posted since midnight today. 2 Lerner stories.

It's dead, Jim. The Ukraine SQUIRREL!!!: Mission Accomplished!

61 posted on 07/21/2014 7:34:50 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: kiryandil
They lost the satellite back-up videos...

I'm just amazed that they tried to use a twenty second you-tube video as evidence, but considering the IQ and attention span of the average American that's probably about right.

62 posted on 07/21/2014 7:37:25 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
Is there an echo in here?

You already said that, and I pointed out that the plane was not shot down in Luhansk where Ukrainian troops are. It was shot down in Donetsk 40 miles east of Donetsk city.

Are you trying to claim that the Ukrainians somehow moved a BUK into the middle of Cossak infested Russky held territory 40 miles east of Donetsk, shot down the plane and then somehow smuggled the BUK back out, all without ever being detected?

Or was it a Ukrainian jet trying to shoot down Putin's plane?

Or was it all a hoax, and the plane was full of bodies that were drained of blood and dead for days?

Each one of the many contradictory conspiracy theories Putin's sycophants vomit up get more and more stupid and ridiculous as they invent them.

63 posted on 07/21/2014 7:41:56 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: kiryandil
So how many IRS stories have you posted in that time? None, right? So I guess YOU are the person you're talking about who is not paying attention to the IRS anymore because you're too busy trolling Ukraine threads.

Go post some IRS stories then or SHUT YOUR PIEHOLE!

64 posted on 07/21/2014 7:46:35 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: GeronL

People have to understand that Russian TV pretty much means government. The top 3 networks in Russia are (2) government owned outright and (1) owned by Gazprom which is government owned (actual majority)

Russian TV is pretty much the voice of the Kremlin


Wow, sure glad we don’t live in a country like that!!!

Do I need the /s?


65 posted on 07/21/2014 7:47:06 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Jack Bauer could have done it.


Jack Bauer wouldn’t have shot down a plane full of vacationing innocents.

But Jack could get Putin crying on the floor soiling himself.


66 posted on 07/21/2014 7:49:19 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I've posted more than my fair share of stories in my time. Just pointing out that we've been "squirreled".

You know, I'm not "trolling Ukraine threads".

As a matter of fact, I just whizzed on The Won's leg for saying "Joe would be a superb president".

67 posted on 07/21/2014 7:57:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Have you seen this? Russians are mentioned..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnkSXosZhic


68 posted on 07/21/2014 8:02:00 PM PDT by GOPJ (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize-Voltaire)
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To: kiryandil

Well thanks for bumping my thread to the top so many times so that people interested in Ukraine will read it.


69 posted on 07/21/2014 8:03:16 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: GOPJ
Thank you, I watched it. That was very interesting.

There is no question that the Russian mafia is the number one human trafficking organized crime group not just in Latin America but throughout the entire world. Furthermore, the Russian mafia is controlled by the Kremlin.

FReepers and Americans must be made to understand that the threats from our Russian enemies, from across the Southern border and from our own corrupt government are not separate threats. They are all part of the web of terror threatening to destroy the American nation

70 posted on 07/21/2014 8:36:40 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

you think this article is false?
I’m asking, and I’m not trying to be smart or sarcastic..

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-21/russia-says-has-photos-ukraine-deploying-buk-missiles-east-rader-proof-warplanes-mh1

thanks
Mike


71 posted on 07/21/2014 9:07:16 PM PDT by MikeinMotley
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To: MikeinMotley
First of all, I don't believe anything that comes out of Russia.

Russia wants us to believe that the video footage of a BUK being moved across the border from Ukraine to Russia after the shootdown is fake, but we aren't supposed to believe that Russia's pictures are fake.

Second, as I pointed out earlier on this thread, the airliner was not shot down in Luhansk where the Russians say the Ukrainian BUK’s were. It was shot down in the middle of rebel held Donetsk, where it would have been impossible for Ukrainian forces with a BUK to have been. That's why the Russians didn't say they were in Donetsk where the plane was shot down but they said they were in Luhansk instead, because they COULDN'T have been in Donetsk at the shootdown site! If they had been there the rebels would kill them!

That's the whole reason why the Russians said in the first place there was a Ukrainian jet that must have shot the plane down, because while it just not believable that Ukrainians shot the plane down with a BUK from the middle of rebel territory, it's at least possible that they could have flown a jet over rebel territory, therefore the Russians have to claim there was a jet!

So which was it? Was the plane shot down by a Ukrainian BUK or a Ukrainian jet? It cant be both!

Ukrainians only have one version of what happened. The plane was shot down by a rebel BUK from the middle of rebel held territory!

The reason Russians can't decide which version of the story we are supposed to believe is because all their versions are LIES!

The reason Ukraine only has one version of the story is because their version is the TRUTH!

72 posted on 07/21/2014 9:33:07 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Here’s another example of what some folks think is Putin’s genius. Now that he’s wrecked his country’s economy and political system, he’s taking a crack at PR damage control. You can see he’s got a real knack for this kind of thing.


73 posted on 07/21/2014 9:35:38 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

sounds reasonable to me! thanks for the reply!

Mike


74 posted on 07/21/2014 9:41:28 PM PDT by MikeinMotley
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To: mac_truck

Hey Mac when we are at a shooting war with Russia which side you going to be on?

You are quickly turning into the number one Putinista quisling on FR.


75 posted on 07/21/2014 10:54:49 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

These putin lovers are disgusting. Fking morons or just agitprop trolls for russia and china. Its one of the reasons i rarely post here anymore. I cant believe people tolerate their BS.


76 posted on 07/21/2014 10:55:21 PM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: 1rudeboy
I’m not familiar with Channel One. Is it state-owned, or nominally state-owned?

Sounds like Al Gore Junior's tv channel. No wait, that was CurrentTVQATARPRAVDA

77 posted on 07/22/2014 6:19:09 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Morons. Mostly of the RonPaulian and Alex Jones ilk.

You’d have to be a bleeding moron to believe any of this commie era propaganda BS.


78 posted on 07/23/2014 12:16:39 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Naah. No cartoon.


79 posted on 07/23/2014 3:34:33 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Russian Media on Downed Airliner: The CIA Did It

I cannot think of a clearer admission of responsibility by the Russians.

80 posted on 07/23/2014 3:38:18 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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