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Big Corporations Have An OVERWHELMING Amount Of Power Over Our Food Supply
theeconomiccollapseblog ^ | July 14, 2014 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 07/20/2014 11:26:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: driftdiver; mace
Is that why 90% - 95% of all new product launches fail? How is that possible if they are "telling" us to buy these new products?

Maybe consumers are a lot smarter than you think.

You responded with your 'gum-flapping' comment, instead of addressing the facts.

Or my facts about the rapid growth of micro-breweries, because big brewers beer tastes like crap (but scores well with the mouth breathers).

/johnny

121 posted on 07/20/2014 4:50:44 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Well being it is added to add flavor anything it is added to.

It is an excellent flavor enhancer. It is just one of many flavor enhancers the food industry uses in very small amounts. It also occurs naturally. It's what gives a tomato its flavor. It's rife in chicken, shrimp, Parmesan cheese, and many other things I hope you don't eat. That stuff could really be unhealthy for you.

The fact that we get 10 times more glutamate from naturally occurring sources than from added sources makes your fear of it totally irrational. But people fear the things they don't understand. Yeah, I'm talking about you.

I'd be happy to give you a lesson in flavor chemistry, but it would probably hurt your brain. You know, just like when you eat too much MSG.

BTW I noticed you glossed right over the MSG Obese Mouse thing.

Clearly, you didn't grasp what I wrote in response to your mindless Googling. Read it again and then I'd be happy to clear up any misunderstandings you have. If you get a chance though, please eat a couple of pounds of MSG every day next week and then let us know how you feel. I'm guessing you're going to feel just like those lab rodents you are so quick to offer up as proof of something. What that something is remains unclear, but to you I'm sure it really means something important.

If you had taken any chemistry, nutrition or biology in whatever passed for "education" in your earlier life, you'd have learned that bad health will result when you continuously overwhelm the body with anything. The only way for a blockhead like you to learn this fact is to experience it for yourself. Now get started on eating all that MSG, and get back to us in a week with a description of how you feel.

Standing by....

122 posted on 07/20/2014 4:52:40 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: driftdiver

I am implying that there is.


123 posted on 07/20/2014 4:56:09 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: JRandomFreeper; mace

yes because mace has a history of gum flappin trolling.

The fact is these companies control the majority of what is in stores. yes there are exceptions but those that are successful generally sell out to one of the big companies.

If the small companies get too difficult the big companies push through things like pushing through new regulations. Like prohibiting the resale of grain for animal food by beer companies. Regulations which are more expensive and harder to comply with for small companies.

Or perhaps you can prove the majority of food products in stores are not controlled by a few companies. Food products which the majority of the population consume.

Or perhaps you are drinking again and flapping your gums.


124 posted on 07/20/2014 4:56:24 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mase
If you get a chance though, please eat a couple of pounds of MSG every day next week and then let us know how you feel.

LOLOL!

Yeah, there is that part of it.

/johnny

125 posted on 07/20/2014 4:57:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GeronL

The companies are run by non-Americans, contribute huge amounts of money to American politicians, have zero loyalty to America, and take their profits outside of America.

oh and they push the leftist agenda in the US.

And supposed conservatives give them a pass.


126 posted on 07/20/2014 4:59:29 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mase

BUMP

No doubt that some food corporations are government rent-seekers, see ADM. We have a government controlled, Soviet-type ag system and most are trying to make the best of it.


127 posted on 07/20/2014 5:00:16 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: driftdiver
Sounds like you are the one that gets angry and has to lash out with name calling and avoiding facts.

If people won't buy a product, it goes away.

If people buy a product it makes money.

It's much cheaper to give people a product that they WANT to buy than forcing them to buy crap they don't really like.

It's pretty simple.

It does screw up your narrative.

/johnny

128 posted on 07/20/2014 5:02:00 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

No narrative. Just calling out so called conservatives who openly support the leftist agenda.


129 posted on 07/20/2014 5:03:38 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Got a 401K? Likely you own some of those companies.

/johnny

130 posted on 07/20/2014 5:03:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: driftdiver
I see you supporting the leftist agenda of attacking corporations as fundamentally evil.

And the facts don't support you. Companies can't force anyone to give them money in exchange for value recieved. People have to be convinced to give them money.

Or the corporation goes broke.

/johnny

131 posted on 07/20/2014 5:06:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You’re naive.


132 posted on 07/20/2014 5:14:11 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
I'm not wrong.

If the product is horrible, it won't sell, regardless of the advertising.

Companies can't force consumers to buy a product if it's crap. The product won't sell.

And the company will go out of business.

Or do you know that companies force people to buy their product (insurance excepted) when the product is crap?

You support the leftist, anti-capitalist narrative that corporations are bad.

Those same corporations that pad your 401K retirement.

Not mine... I don't have a retirement. I'm gone galt.

/johnny

133 posted on 07/20/2014 5:20:27 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: driftdiver
The fact is these companies control the majority of what is in stores.

This is total BS. No wonder you embrace the nonsense you do. If you would spend more time reading about the subject from legitimate sources, you wouldn't end up embarrassing yourself here so often.

The food industry remains a large and highly fragmented industry. It is also one that produces a large number of new businesses every year and provides low barriers to entry for aspiring entrepreneurs. However, your beloved big government is doing all they can to change that. If an industry becomes less competitive, and more of an oligopoly or monopoly, it is because government made it happen.

If you had any experience in the food industry you would know that the relationship with government is, for the most part, highly adversarial. But you have absolutely no experience with it,even though you're posing as someone who does, so you remain clueless.

The same goes for the illiterates who think big pharma and the government are in bed together to do whatever evil it is that they do. And as proof of that collusion, they offer up the fact that it takes, on average, 13 years and $800 million dollars to bring a new drug to market thanks to government regulation. With friends like that..... Even in light of this glaring inconsistency, most don't grasp the sheer stupidity of their wild assed conspiracy theories.

If the small companies get too difficult the big companies push through things like pushing through new regulations

The regulations holding down the little guy have gotten so bad, in fact, that organic is only a $29 billion dollar industry today. Bastards! If only the food industry was more competitive and open to new ideas a company like Whole Foods could have had a chance. Too bad they never got off the ground. Damn those monopolies!

Remember the good old days in the 1950's and 60's when there were so many more food choices in retail and restaurants than there are today. Great times.

134 posted on 07/20/2014 5:24:39 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

So it doesn’t sell and people buy a different product from one of these same companies.

They control the market, they control the regulations, they control the price its sold at.

The exceptions are statistically insignificant.


135 posted on 07/20/2014 5:29:51 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Mase
Van Camps and Del Monte green beans. Those were the two canned choices. Same for corn. Forget looking for canned palm hearts for a salad, and don't bother with the fresh fruits/veggies section of the Safeway(tm). All they have that's edible is onions, apples (maybe edible, probably mealy), and oranges.

I am so glad the '60s are over.

/johnny

136 posted on 07/20/2014 5:32:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: driftdiver
A different product that meets the consumer's requirements.

The corporation bends to the consumer. Always.

Who cares if it's the same company? It's the product that consumers want.

Corporations don't control the market. Buyers control the market.

Corporations try to get more control, but they still have to provide a product the consumer wants, at a price the consumer is willing to pay.

Or they go out of business.

Put the price too high? No sale.

Are you going to buy Dog-Poop Coffee(tm)?

Or go online to coffeebeancorral.com to find something better, at a price you are willing to pay? And maybe learn to roast your own green beans.

/johnny

137 posted on 07/20/2014 5:40:53 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Mad Dawgg

The biggest problems farmers face have little to do with corporations, and everything to do with EPA and OSHA.

You can have the last word.


138 posted on 07/20/2014 5:59:41 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Since corporations produce about 95% of our food, this doesn’t come as a surprise.


139 posted on 07/20/2014 6:01:44 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Mad Dawgg; GeronL

I’ll just toss this in as a bit of circumstantial evidence support my claim the it’s Big Government (something not even mentioned in the above article) that is the biggest problem for all farmers, large and small.

“Passionate Farmer Takes On Her Government Harassers”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3182891/posts


140 posted on 07/20/2014 6:24:50 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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