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Big Corporations Have An OVERWHELMING Amount Of Power Over Our Food Supply
theeconomiccollapseblog ^ | July 14, 2014 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 07/20/2014 11:26:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: WildWeasel; dfwgator

Agree! The only way this is a problem is if corporations use government to keep the competition out. Many years ago, people worried about Sears dominating retail, then KMart came along, then Walmart came along. In a free market, these problems solve themselves. Besides, it amazes me that people think businesses want to poison their customers. It’s absurd.


101 posted on 07/20/2014 2:46:30 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: driftdiver

Exactly and it is not just cherries, it is almost everything. Government regulations are atrocious.


102 posted on 07/20/2014 2:54:50 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Granted, I do think government has been somewhat asleep at the switch recently with regards to enforcing anti-trust laws.


103 posted on 07/20/2014 2:57:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RIghtwardHo
Absolutely no no no to privatization in general and to big Corps who owe NOTHING to the taxpayer or voter

think about it for just a minute....it is the taxpayers and voters who OWN these corporations...they are stockholders either directly or through their pension programs and retirement accounts. Try to buy a mutual fund that includes none of these evil corporations.....

104 posted on 07/20/2014 2:57:30 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: driftdiver
Facts jacking with your narrative again?

/johnny

105 posted on 07/20/2014 3:02:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SeekAndFind

Big Food paying off Big Gov is probably why there are few restrictions on the types of “food” people can buy with food stamp cards. They could easily restrict EBT to healthy food only, like WIC does. But they don’t. Instead of buying lettuce, carrots, oatmeal, milk, meat, whole grain breads, the EBT recipients enrich Big Food by buying overpriced and nutritionally deficient Doritos, Pepsi, and Pop Tarts.


106 posted on 07/20/2014 3:07:59 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Mase
"How is the chemical composition of added glutamate different from naturally occurring glutamate?"

Again nice straw man.

Never said it was. The problem is it is added to things that taste like crap and that is loaded with crap that is bad for you.

Oh and this: "Scientists don't feed rodents MSG to make them fat..."

Reduced norepinephrine turnover in mice with monosodium glutamate-induced obesity

Atorvastatin improves insulin sensitivity in mice with obesity induced by monosodium glutamate

EFFECTS OF MONOSODIUM GLUTAMATE-INDUCED OBESITY IN MICE ON CARBOHYDRATE METABOLISM IN INSULIN SECRETION

In this paper, we analyzed the role of IL-1 in maintaining body weight because IL-1 receptor antagonist-deficient (IL-1Ra-/-) mice, in which excess IL-1 signaling may be induced, show a lean phenotype. Body fat accumulation was impaired in IL-1Ra-/- mice, but feeding behavior, expression of hypothalamic factors involved in feeding control, energy expenditure, and heat production were normal. When IL-1Ra-/- mice were treated with monosodium glutamate (MSG), which causes obesity in wild-type mice by ablating cells in the hypothalamic arcuate nucleus, they were resistant to obesity

Anti-obesity effect of CL 316,243, a highly specific β3-adrenoceptor agonist, in mice with monosodium-l-glutamate-induced obesity

Type 2 diabetes mellitus was induced by monosodium glutamate in obese mouse model

Well I think we have figured out that you know exactly two things about the subject...

Jack and Shit...

But thanks for playing...

107 posted on 07/20/2014 3:08:18 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Looks like the moderators at that site too down my post... lol

It was something like this:

The government has an iron grip on the agricultural sector of this economy. The government forces growers to dump large portions of their crops in order to artificially raise prices. You need a federal license to grow a peanut. Ever heard of the Dairy Compact? The Egg Board? Did you know that in 2009 or so, millions of pounds of tart cherries were left to rot on the ground by government edict, in order to raise prices. The US had to import tart cherries to make pie filling that year. The government had a program that was taking upwards of half the crop of table grapes out of the market. It was finally tossed in a lawsuit. We have a Soviet-type agricultural system in this country. We have government programs paying farmers not to grow stuff, paying them to grow stuff, paying them if they grew too much or too little. It is totally insane what our government does and has been doing in some cases since the 30’s.


108 posted on 07/20/2014 3:13:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Nice selfie!

109 posted on 07/20/2014 3:21:12 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: GeronL
Facts screw up their narrative. Of course they have to silence you.

Keep pissing them off.

/johnny

110 posted on 07/20/2014 3:22:58 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Here is your problem nothing GeronL says in post 57 is in direct opposition to my point.

What you fail to understand is that the reason the government does much of those things Gen lists in his post is because Big Gub'ment and Big Agra are intertwined and Big Agra wants the Gub'ment to do most of those things.

Especially things that make it hard for Smaller Farms (non corp. farms) to compete.

111 posted on 07/20/2014 3:47:50 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: driftdiver
You writing checks you can't cash again?

You'd think after it being shown, over and over again, that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, that it might temper your enthusiasm to come back here, once again, to reinforce the fact that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Your enthusiasm for proving this to the forum is mind-boggling.

But here you are. Reminds of that definition of insanity.

112 posted on 07/20/2014 4:03:58 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: driftdiver
You writing checks you can't cash again?

You'd think after it being shown, over and over again, that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, that it might temper your enthusiasm to come back here, once again, to reinforce the fact that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Your enthusiasm for proving this to the forum is mind-boggling.

But here you are. Reminds of that definition of insanity.

113 posted on 07/20/2014 4:03:59 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase; driftdiver

Real monopolies can only exist where there is government force or collusion.


114 posted on 07/20/2014 4:07:12 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Mad Dawgg
The problem is it is added to things that taste like crap and that is loaded with crap that is bad for you.

Be specific, what is it added to that tastes like crap?

Since glutamate is essential for human survival, and you get ten time more glutamate from natural sources than from added sources, please explain to us how the addition of a small amount of MSG to our food supply is detrimental to our health? Before you reply, please engage your brain.....and remember, you consume 10 times more glutamate from natural sources than gets added to food.

Your links are funny. It's like you just found out that when you cram lab animals with chemicals that have absolutely no relationship to real world consumption that bad things happen. If you overwhelm the body with anything, bad things follow. Scientists do this and then marvel at the resulting negative health results. It is a proven method for attracting grant money, but it does nothing to advance scientific knowledge.

Try eating 2 lbs of MSG every day for a month and let me know how you feel. But what person in the real world, or in their right mind, eats straight MSG? Try it with NaCl or table sugar, and then tell us about your health. You can die from drinking too much water, but water is good for you, right?

One thing we know for certain is that you are a moron. There's nothing wrong with being a moron, but the problem with you is that you don't realize it.

115 posted on 07/20/2014 4:23:35 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
"Be specific, what is it added to that tastes like crap?"

Well being it is added to add flavor anything it is added to.

BTW I noticed you glossed right over the MSG Obese Mouse thing.

Is it because you were flat out wrong or that you didn't understand all the big words?

BTW here is another for you: Study examines how food additive MSG contributes to obesity and liver disease

But keep posting Sparky eventually you may stumble onto being right once!~

116 posted on 07/20/2014 4:31:07 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: GeronL
Your post #57 provides excellent examples of why government is the problem. But as every conservative understands, government is always the problem. Unfortunately, too many think that industry is the problem. The American food industry has done a stellar job of providing a bounty of food to us that is unheard of in human history. At the same time, they have been able to significantly reduce the cost of providing food, as a percentage of income, to the American family. They do this in the face of staggering government regulation, and for all their efforts, they earn the scorn of scientific illiterates, anti-capitalists and tin foil crackpots everywhere.

FR is, unfortunately, not spared from them.

117 posted on 07/20/2014 4:34:09 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
Found a picture of you.


118 posted on 07/20/2014 4:41:17 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

What facts are those Johnnie?


119 posted on 07/20/2014 4:41:50 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: GeronL

“Real monopolies can only exist where there is government force or collusion.”

Are you implying you don’t think there is collusion between these companies and the federal govt?


120 posted on 07/20/2014 4:43:03 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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