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The Feds Just Seized 40 Land Rovers Imported To The U.S.
http://jalopnik.com/the-feds-just-seized-40-land-rovers-imported-to-the-u-s-1605985758 ^ | July 17 2014 | Patrick George

Posted on 07/18/2014 10:22:10 AM PDT by PoloSec

Some 40 Land Rover owners across the U.S. woke up Tuesday morning to police and federal investigators knocking on their doors and demanding they hand over their trucks. Officials say it's part of an ongoing criminal investigation into the illegal importation of Land Rovers into this country, Jalopnik has learned.

But that will likely come as little consolation to the 40 owners of the Land Rover 90s, 110s and Defenders, many of whom contest what federal authorities claim about the legality of their cars.

News of the seizures first appeared on the Land Rover Defender forum Defender Source around 8 a.m. Tuesday, when one user posted to say that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security came to his home at 6:45 a.m. to seize his truck. That user was quickly joined by several others, who said their Land Rovers were confiscated by investigators who came to their homes with federal warrants.

One of them was Danny Harrington, who lives in Albany, New York. Last year he bought a 1983 Land Rover 110 through a friend in New York. He told Jalopnik that police drove around his residence looking for his truck, and then went to his parents' house 10 miles away to find it — a house where it wasn't even registered.

"They told me it was illegally imported, and the guy who imported it last year falsified the paperwork on the truck," Harrington said. The investigators came to the house with a list of VIN numbers and said his was on it, and that they were taking it with them.

Curiously, Harrington said police insisted his Land Rover was a year 2000 model. He says that his VIN number definitely goes back to a 1979 to 1984 truck, and not a newer one.

"It's clearly a 1983," he said of his very obviously older project vehicle. "It's not a show truck. It's a mess. It's a work truck."

Vincent Picard, a spokesman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said authorities believe the cars were unlawfully brought into the U.S.

"ICE Homeland Security Investigations special agents served court-ordered seizure warrants on approximately 40 Land Rovers in various locations around the country," he said in an email. "The seizures are being made pursuant to an ongoing criminal investigation involving the unlawful importation of the vehicles from Great Britain. The Land Rovers, which do not meet federal safety or emission standards, cannot be lawfully operated in the United States."

That was news to Harrington, who says he bought the car legally in New York last year and has a title to prove it. "I don't even know who imported it," he said.

Forum member Hitch weighed in as well:

I had 2 homeland security agents, state police, and local sheriff in my drive way when I went outside to go to work today. My, what I believe to be an 1986 110 was arrested and seized about 8:30 this morning.

When I purchased my vehicle I went to NC from Florida to look at and drive it. I compared the VIN on the bill of sale to the frame VIN and the VIN plate near the master cylinder. I in no way thought I was gambling in purchasing a vehicle that was licensed in NC. and had been in the states for a year prior to me purchasing it. The state police detective showed me where the engine block VIN had been filed and re-stamped.

On the dept of treasury process receipt it lists Land Rover Vehicles and the defendant. There are 61 VINS listed on the warrant. I was told I have 35 days to file a claim and was not given a form or anything to file. I spoke to the attorney listed on the complaint and he told me the case is still and open investigation and could not talk to me about it for another 24-48 hours.

So it's possible more than just these 40 Land Rovers are being targeted.

Picard directed further questions to the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of North Carolina, but an official there said the case was under seal and that no one could discuss it.

So it's not clear exactly why the Land Rovers have been taken, but last year some 20 Defenders were seized by Homeland Security and Customs from a chiropractor's house in suburban North Carolina, Car and Driver reported at the time. Exclusive: Feds Declare War on Black-Market Land Rover Defenders

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Meanwhile, nobody at either NHTSA or CBP could comment on the status of Aaron Richardet, the chiropractor. Several people in the Defender community have told us that "Doc Aaron" was running a business importing later-model Defenders; if that's true, he's likely facing trouble.

It would appear that these latest seizures are also related to that federal criminal case, which targeted Richardet. Members of the Land Rover forum seem to think the same thing.

With a federal criminal case, it's going to be tough — if not impossible — to get anyone to comment on the record about what happened here until indictments are handed down, if that even happens. My sense is that these Land Rovers were all seized as evidence in that case.

(A spokesman for Jaguar-Land Rover said the investigation appears to be related to cars sold by unaffiliated third parties.)

Picard, the ICE spokesman, added: "The vehicle owners, who are victims of this criminal scheme, will have an opportunity to seek restitution for their losses."

That's what Harrington probably plans on doing, although said he still doesn't understand why police had to come to his house to take his car or why his car's VIN number registers as a newer one to federal investigators.

"I just don't understand why this was so aggressive," he said.


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To: PoloSec

FYI
New Land Rovers are just Fords.
Interesting that that the old POS ones would be in that much demand.


41 posted on 07/18/2014 11:11:03 AM PDT by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: Utilizer

the reason Brits drink their beer warm is because Lucas made their refrigerators.


42 posted on 07/18/2014 11:15:14 AM PDT by AlbertWang
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To: AlbertWang

Thanks for the laugh! :)


43 posted on 07/18/2014 11:19:52 AM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: gaijin

Don’t forget the satirical outhouses.


44 posted on 07/18/2014 11:26:16 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: PoloSec

What doesn’t Homeland Security have it’s dirty little hands into these days. Is this the army that obama warned us of being more heavily armed than our military back in 2008? They are tracking down 20 year old cars and musical instruments with ivory in them. How about if they secure our homeland by helping with the border if they are bored and looking for something to do.....


45 posted on 07/18/2014 11:30:09 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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To: wagglebee

I have a 2006 Jag S Type that has been an excellent car. I was thinking about buying a new car but I still like the Jag as well as any of the ones I’ve test drove so can’t see spending the money yet.


46 posted on 07/18/2014 11:41:07 AM PDT by sheana
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To: BobL

At least the rover Jeremy drove being chased by the challenger tank held together. I loved that segment.


47 posted on 07/18/2014 11:41:28 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.q)
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To: MrB
LOL. Some years back the young guy doing the inspection on my old TR-6 said "I think you have a small oil leak", so I joked back "That's OK, it a Triumph and they're supposed to do that". He just said "Oh".

I think he believed me.

48 posted on 07/18/2014 11:44:51 AM PDT by ken in texas
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To: elcid1970

Bet all these Land Rover owners were white male Republicans.


A lot of my fellow Airmen stationed in the U.K. wanted to bring a Land Rover home.


49 posted on 07/18/2014 11:47:47 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: GraceG

What caught my attention was they stole Land Rovers, not subarus. Want to bet on how many of them become staff cars for the feds?


50 posted on 07/18/2014 11:50:20 AM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is the CPUSA)
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To: PoloSec

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54930


51 posted on 07/18/2014 11:53:42 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: ken in texas

What was that joke...

something about why don’t the British make _something_

Answer: because they couldn’t figure out how to make it leak oil.


52 posted on 07/18/2014 12:02:47 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: PoloSec
"The Land Rovers, which do not meet federal safety or emission standards, cannot be lawfully operated in the United States."

Incorrect. DOT and EPA regs are rolling. They only go back 25 years. Everything 25 years and older is exempt from DOT and EPA regs and legal to import. 1989 and older for now. 1990 next year, and so on.

But, if the Land Rover is actually a 2000 year model that was illegally re-VIN'd to appear to be an older vehicle, then you've got a different story.

53 posted on 07/18/2014 12:12:06 PM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: PoloSec

Funny. They seize cars, but not illegal aliens.


54 posted on 07/18/2014 12:13:14 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: ken in texas

Found it -

Why didn’t the British invent computers?
Because they couldn’t figure out how to make ‘em leak oil.


55 posted on 07/18/2014 12:21:29 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Utilizer

Lucas was one of the early developers of the process to cause a completely electronic device to leak oil.


56 posted on 07/18/2014 12:27:36 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Cyclone59

there are more 68 vetts registered in the us than were ever made,recon they will take them too?


57 posted on 07/18/2014 12:32:09 PM PDT by old gringo
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To: PoloSec

Somebody tell these guys we have 60,000 “Landrovers” on our southern border.


58 posted on 07/18/2014 12:36:44 PM PDT by anoldafvet (Close the border!!!)
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To: MrB
That's it.

In the same inspection as the oil leak a rear tail light was out, even though it worked fine at the house 10 minutes before. We fiddled for a while to finally get the bulb retainer to ground so they would pass the car.

After finishing the TR-6 I had hoped to tackle rebuilding a Jag XKE, but decided I'd had my fill of the British imports.

59 posted on 07/18/2014 12:38:01 PM PDT by ken in texas
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To: Real Cynic No More
As far as I can tell, no one is claiming that these are stolen vehicles (apart from OUR government stealing them, of course):

The seizures are being made pursuant to an ongoing criminal investigation involving the unlawful importation of the vehicles from Great Britain. The Land Rovers, which do not meet federal safety or emission standards, cannot be lawfully operated in the United States.

60 posted on 07/18/2014 12:42:27 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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