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Widow of man shot in theater ‘for texting’ hits out at judge after ‘shooter’ released
UK DailyMail online ^ | 11 July 2014 | By ALEX GREIG and SNEJANA FARBEROV

Posted on 07/13/2014 10:21:09 AM PDT by Albion Wilde

Bail was set at $150,000 for the release of Curtis Reeves, 71, accused of second-degree murder in the shooting death of Chad Oulson, 43

Appeals court ruled that a district judge may have made an error by failing to set bail for Reeves

Reeves shot and killed Oulson at a movie theater in January after a dispute over text messaging

The former police captain must stay home, wear an ankle monitor, surrender his guns and avoid contact with victim's widow

'We are flooded, we are devastated,' said lawyer representing Nicole Oulson after news of Reeves' impending release

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cop; curtisreeves; donutwatch; floridashooter; nicoleoulson; oulson; police; reeves; shooter; texting; theatershooter
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To: smokingfrog
smokingfrog said: "Hopefully, he’ll do the right thing and off himself."

Do you think this was some kind of boxing match gone wrong?

How do you rule out the likelihood of a serious physical attack when somebody throws popcorn at you, perhaps in an attempt to blind you temporarily to aid in their attack?

I use copious amounts of salt on my popcorn. How would you like it if I threw salt in your eyes under similar circumstances? How would you determine that the throwing of popcorn would be the end of the attack?

What would a rattle snake do if you approached it and threw popcorn on it? Would it instinctively fight back and possibly cause the death of the attacker? How much more thought is a person required to give to their reaction than a rattle snake?

Does the fact that the person attacking the rattle snake doesn't know that the snake is deadly in any way change the expected outcome?

If this retired cop had been on duty and had been attacked in such a way, what would the cop expect to have happen next? What action should the cop take?

I have grown to distrust the police perhaps as much as anybody I know. That doesn't mean that I expect cops to have to submit to an attack.

21 posted on 07/13/2014 10:49:08 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: null and void; Uncle Chip; DariusBane

Waiting for the badge polishers to show up in force.


22 posted on 07/13/2014 10:49:30 AM PDT by FBD
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To: Safetgiver
Ok. I’ll step in it (please have mercy on me). If a 43 year old confronts a 71 year old after being asked for a perfectly reasonable request to put his F’N cell phone away, why shouldn’t said 71 year old feel threatened with dire physical harm? If the guy wasn’t reasonable when asked, what made the 71 year old think he would be reasonable after standing up and confronting him?

Good thing you were not on the original threads; you would have needed a flame-retardant suit. Let me see if I can summarize:

• The texting was during the previews, not the feature

• The texter was texting his babysitter, not making noise with a game

• The theater was a "no guns" zone

• The alleged shooter got up to complain to management; it is believed that at this point, he went to his car to retrieve his gun

• Seating is not assigned; so he and his wife could have moved seats at any time; instead he returned and forced a confrontation

• It was not his place to try to enforce a "no texting" policy

• Texting is not a lethal or dangerous activity; it is merely an annoyance that could have been solved any number of other ways, even assuming the victim would have continued during the feature, which was not an issue as the shooting took place during the previews

• Witnesses did not hear any loud threats or witness any aggression by the victim other than thrown popcorn; but none of them actually claimed to see the moment it was thrown, or that the victim was the one who threw it

• A married woman came forward to say that she had been intimidated by the alleged shooter in the same theater in the previous month when she tried to mind her own business going to the ladies' room


23 posted on 07/13/2014 10:53:45 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde
A trial date was expected to be set during the hearing, but defense attorneys said they were still in the midst of investigating the state's evidence, including 100 witnesses. Attorneys will meet September 10 to determine a trial date.

There are no 100 witnesses. In other words as long as he is out on bail his attorneys will drag this thing out for as many years as necessary hoping that he dies of old age before he goes back to jail.

If he had stayed in jail then this would go to trial sooner than later.

And of course he will take the plea deal at the very last minute.

24 posted on 07/13/2014 10:54:58 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: DoodleDawg

They also show Nicole Oulson’s badly injured hand after she was shot trying to deflect the bullet that killed her husband.

Video from the scene appears to show Oulson snatching Reeves’ popcorn off his lap and throwing it at him. Reeves responds instantaneously with a single, fatal gunshot.

I do believe you may be wrong.


25 posted on 07/13/2014 10:56:08 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Uncle Chip
There are no 100 witnesses.

Since this claim is by the defense, they are probably "character" witnesses from the force and his church. Feh.

26 posted on 07/13/2014 10:57:02 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: William Tell

The theater was a “no guns” zone


27 posted on 07/13/2014 10:57:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: discostu

They also show Nicole Oulson’s badly injured hand after she was shot trying to deflect the bullet that killed her husband.

Video from the scene appears to show Oulson snatching Reeves’ popcorn off his lap and throwing it at him. Reeves responds instantaneously with a single, fatal gunshot.

I believe you may be wrong.


28 posted on 07/13/2014 10:58:30 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver

You’re insane!

You think like Nancy Pelousey and Cindy Sheehan.
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29 posted on 07/13/2014 10:59:59 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: William Tell
Two things,
1. Reeves is an EX cop. He wasn't on duty, or in uniform, and he's not entitled to some extra judicial authority as an EX cop.

2. Escalation of force was initiated by the EX cop.
Reeves went out front and complained to the manager, then RETURNED to the theater, and reengaged in the confrontation with Oulson. You don't get to claim fear for your life, after reinserting yourself into harms way. Well, Reeves can try this defense, but if there's any justice left at all in our two tiered “justice”system, the jury will convict Reeves of murder, or at the very least, manslaughter.

30 posted on 07/13/2014 11:00:02 AM PDT by FBD
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To: Safetgiver

So, you are saying that he feared that an unarmed man with both hands in view who had been seated with his petite wife and who was, by the way, a clean-cut former millitary guy of the same race as the alleged shooter (only less physically pumped, judging by the early pictures), was so terrifying that he shot instead of preparing to counter a punch?


31 posted on 07/13/2014 11:00:36 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Safetgiver

Look at post 23. Reeves is a scumbag murder who started the confrontation, sought a gun, and continued the confrontation. And it wasn’t his first dance either. The fact that he irritated the victim enough to get it physical doesn’t excuse cold blooded murder.


32 posted on 07/13/2014 11:00:56 AM PDT by discostu (Villains always blink their eyes.)
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To: Uncle Chip

The theater was a “no guns” zone..And the second amendment says.....?


33 posted on 07/13/2014 11:02:56 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: discostu; Albion Wilde

The purpose of bail is to insure the accused’s appearance at trial; and rarely, (supposedly, but more and more often not) denial to protect the public from a particular and imminent menace.

I see a very disturbing trend in wanting to use it as pretrial punishment, as well as a steady escalation of what constitutes the Constitutionally mandated “reasonable bail”.

It reinforces the erosion of the “innocent until proven guilty in a court of law” mandated presumption of innocence within the legal system: not to be confused with personal opinions of members of the public, which carry no legal weight or obligation.


34 posted on 07/13/2014 11:03:15 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Albion Wilde

Yep. Somebody on here has a tagline “ Don’t F’ with an old dude. If he can’t beat you, he’ll kill you. Enough said.


35 posted on 07/13/2014 11:06:06 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Here is the theatre video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27d9hCjsUE&feature=youtube_gdata_player


36 posted on 07/13/2014 11:07:30 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Safetgiver
The theater was a “no guns” zone..And the second amendment says.....?

that you have the right to forbid guns on your own property and the theatre did that but the retired cop thought he was special.

37 posted on 07/13/2014 11:10:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Safetgiver; Albion Wilde
If a 43 year old confronts a 71 year old after being asked for a perfectly reasonable request to put his F’N cell phone away, why shouldn’t said 71 year old feel threatened with dire physical harm?

A peasant who conceal-carries is required to bravely run away like Sir Robin in Monty Python's Holy Grail.

If said peasant stays and "confronts", like this retired King's Man did, peasant goes to jail, goes directly to jail, does not pass GO.

Take a concealed carry class. Tell us how many times this is DRILLED into your head.

38 posted on 07/13/2014 11:10:37 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: William Tell

Peasants who concealed carry are required to retreat, unless they want to go to jail.


39 posted on 07/13/2014 11:12:41 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Safetgiver
"Don’t F’ with an old dude. If he can’t beat you, he’ll kill you. Enough said.

Yeah, women, children, Innocent bystanders, whatever, they're all fair game in your book, eh? Nice frame of mind.

It's a pretty sad state of affairs in this country, when everyone around an ex cop who “fears for his life” is considered just collateral damage. The guy's a frigging coward, I don't care how old he is.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/23/article-2544568-1AE792EA00000578-531_634x374.jpg

40 posted on 07/13/2014 11:17:53 AM PDT by FBD
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