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Widow of man shot in theater ‘for texting’ hits out at judge after ‘shooter’ released
UK DailyMail online ^ | 11 July 2014 | By ALEX GREIG and SNEJANA FARBEROV

Posted on 07/13/2014 10:21:09 AM PDT by Albion Wilde

Bail was set at $150,000 for the release of Curtis Reeves, 71, accused of second-degree murder in the shooting death of Chad Oulson, 43

Appeals court ruled that a district judge may have made an error by failing to set bail for Reeves

Reeves shot and killed Oulson at a movie theater in January after a dispute over text messaging

The former police captain must stay home, wear an ankle monitor, surrender his guns and avoid contact with victim's widow

'We are flooded, we are devastated,' said lawyer representing Nicole Oulson after news of Reeves' impending release

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cop; curtisreeves; donutwatch; floridashooter; nicoleoulson; oulson; police; reeves; shooter; texting; theatershooter
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To: mlo
Even at 71 flung popcorn is not likely to kill.

Oh yeah. It could have been "tactical" popcorn for all you know. /s

141 posted on 07/13/2014 2:09:00 PM PDT by Nachoman (libertyarmstx.com is now open!)
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To: Albion Wilde

It’s scientific fact. Read the book referenced in the Forbes article. When a person with brain damage can’t convert short term memory to long term memory but can form new habits, what’s going on? The what’s going on is a recent discovery.


142 posted on 07/13/2014 2:14:54 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: DariusBane

Read the Forbes article if you really want the answer to your question.


143 posted on 07/13/2014 2:15:48 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: FBD

didn’t have to wait long


144 posted on 07/13/2014 2:16:56 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: Safetgiver
"What might be expected next?"

While you might very well be worried about what he'll do next, you don't get to shoot someone unless they actually do something to present a deadly threat. In certain circumstances I might be worried about what a lot of people might do next, but I don't get to shoot them.

145 posted on 07/13/2014 2:19:31 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Safetgiver
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I live in the greater Tampa area ...

My take is the "retired cop" thought he was above-the-law ...

WHO IN GOD's NAME shoots (with a gun) somebody because they've made too much noise in a movie theater ?

I guess, in this case, a retired cop ...

One can only imagine how (wonderfully) this LEO treated the "citizen dogs" during his live-action days ...


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146 posted on 07/13/2014 2:21:44 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: morphing libertarian
The person who was violating the rules and shining a phone light in front of other people in a dark movie auditorium, started the conflict.

Yeah. I'm sure Reeves mistook the cellphone for a muzzle flash and fired in self defense.

147 posted on 07/13/2014 2:22:09 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: antidisestablishment
The old dude looked and acted roided out. No possible way his behavior was at all normal or appropriate. It was plain murder.

That still begs the question of how often do people charged with murder, even second degree murder, get out on bail? Especially such a low bail?

148 posted on 07/13/2014 2:25:14 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: morphing libertarian
"The person who was violating the rules and shining a phone light in front of other people in a dark movie auditorium, started the conflict."

It wouldn't matter even if true. Reeves was the only person to initiate deadly force. Getting into a conflict, even picking a conflict, doesn't authorize the other person to shoot you. You only get to use deadly force in response to a deadly threat.

149 posted on 07/13/2014 2:28:51 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

The statement I addressed was that reeves started the conflict.

I agree with your criteria, but one does not know the intent of an attacker. The safest thing is to think the physical attack may be deadly.

It is the attacker who assumes the risk. When the person grabbed the food and threw it, it is a guess as to what their intent is.


150 posted on 07/13/2014 2:40:12 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: DoodleDawg

The person defending himself does not have to be accurate in his analysis of the scenario. The attacker is taking the risk of the defender and armed person not knowing how far the attacker intends to go.


151 posted on 07/13/2014 2:42:50 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: morphing libertarian

You don’t know much about this case, do you???

You’re just firing at the hip just like that lunatic Reeves did.


152 posted on 07/13/2014 2:49:33 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: morphing libertarian
"The person defending himself does not have to be accurate in his analysis of the scenario."

The law requires them to be both subjectively and objectively reasonable. Not perfect, no, but objectively reasonable. It is not enough to be afraid because of what someone might conceivably do, but hasn't actually done.

153 posted on 07/13/2014 2:51:36 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

The texter was engaged in a physical attack. Should the person being attacked take notes or ask, how far are you going to take this attack?

The person who happened to be 71 has the right to defender himself. The attacker guessed wrong and was killed. Too bad.


154 posted on 07/13/2014 2:58:26 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: Albion Wilde

He’s an old man, who didn’t have any criminal record. Really?! He’s also a retired policeman who should have known better. In fear for his life because the man snatched popcorn out of his lap. omg.

Listen. I know those texters in theaters are irritating, but you don’t MURDER THEM.


155 posted on 07/13/2014 2:59:29 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (If chocolate fudge cake could sing, it would sound like Barry White.)
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To: Uncle Chip

I responded to your question but you didn’t like the answer.

Not my problem.


156 posted on 07/13/2014 3:00:02 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: morphing libertarian
The person defending himself does not have to be accurate in his analysis of the scenario. The attacker is taking the risk of the defender and armed person not knowing how far the attacker intends to go.

Reeves shot and killed a man for no reason. He deserves to spend the rest of his life in jail.

157 posted on 07/13/2014 3:00:07 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

No reason. Lol


158 posted on 07/13/2014 3:01:02 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: morphing libertarian
"The texter was engaged in a physical attack."

Throwing popcorn is not deadly force.

"The person who happened to be 71 has the right to defender himself."

No, you cannot use deadly force to defend against an non-deadly force attack. Sorry. If you do it you are going to find yourself charged.

159 posted on 07/13/2014 3:03:08 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

If you believe you are under attack which he was, you don’t have to delay a response to see if the attacker will stop.

When your 71 being hit by fists can be life threatening.

The texter guessed wrong. Good riddance.


160 posted on 07/13/2014 3:06:02 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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