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Chicago gun violence: The numbers shock, but the reasons are familiar (Lax Gun Laws?)
Yahoo.news ^ | 7/8/2014 | Mark Guarino

Posted on 07/08/2014 3:01:10 AM PDT by raybbr

Gun violence erupted in Chicago over the holiday weekend, with 14 people killed and another 68 wounded from Thursday afternoon to early Monday. Two of the fatal shootings were by Chicago police.

It was the city’s highest concentration of gun violence this year, but in its wake it was ascribed to familiar suspected causes, depending on the source: inadequate policing, lax gun laws, and lack of economic opportunity.

Most of the Chicago shootings took place in areas plagued by school closings and systemic losses in manufacturing jobs: Englewood, Roseland, Gresham, and West Pullman. Most of the fatalities were teenage boys or young adult men.

In gun violence over the Fourth of July weekend last year, 11 people were killed and 62 wounded.

While over the long term gun violence in Chicago is declining, the high-profile street violence is a political liability for Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who on Monday released a statement calling the number of shootings and murders “simply unacceptable.”

In 2012, his first year in office, homicides in the city spiked past 500, creating both national headlines and pushback from critics citing budget cuts to the police force and school closings as endemic to the growing problem.

“The solution does not just include policing – although we’ll continue to look for ways to put more police where they’re needed,” Mayor Emanuel said in his statement Monday. “We also have to give our young people alternatives to the street, and as a community we need to demand more of ourselves and our neighbors.”

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Oh, brother...
1 posted on 07/08/2014 3:01:10 AM PDT by raybbr
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Chicago has some of the harshest gun laws in the nation.
Also lots of black youth that are doing the vast majority of shootings.


2 posted on 07/08/2014 3:08:14 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: raybbr
Send the illegals to Chicago.
They will RUSH back home ASAP.
4 posted on 07/08/2014 3:17:17 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Why would ANYBODY want to be President after the mess ZERO is leaving?)
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To: DeaconRed

If they survive.


5 posted on 07/08/2014 3:18:51 AM PDT by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: EandH Dad
"If they survive."

As our Favorite whore would say:
What difference does it make?

6 posted on 07/08/2014 3:31:51 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Why would ANYBODY want to be President after the mess ZERO is leaving?)
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To: raybbr

How about a War on Gangs? How about targeting the existence of the gangs themselves? Nah. Nevermind. Instead let’s pontificate about “we all have to do more”. And, oh yeah, evil guns, evil guns, evil guns...

Funny, though, about those evil guns. Lots of places of lots more legal guns than Chicago but much much much less gun violence. How can that be?

Oh well, nevermind. Forget that question. And forget gangs. Focus on them evil guns.


7 posted on 07/08/2014 3:37:17 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: raybbr
And of course the obligatory picture of Police Officers standing behind a table with guns that were walking the streets of Chicago, jumping into the hands of teen aged males, who are not even allowed to own a bullet in Chicago and forcing them to shoot people.
8 posted on 07/08/2014 3:39:17 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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The problem is black culture. Black culture is inherently inferior to “Western” culture.


9 posted on 07/08/2014 4:01:09 AM PDT by nonliberal (Sent from a payphone in a whorehouse in Mexico.)
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“The problem is black culture. Black culture is inherently inferior to “Western” culture.”

It is a cultural vacuum; welfare bastards bred for cash aren’t raised, but bred. They have the same basic functions as dogs or cats - they eat, sleep, mate, and fight over resources.


10 posted on 07/08/2014 4:05:59 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: raybbr
Meanwhile the murder rate in open carry stand your ground Detroit are in free fall. Down nearly 30% from last year.

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11 posted on 07/08/2014 4:11:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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This is going to plan, dysfunctional blacks out of Chicago and hipsters and Hispanic workers into Chicago. I mean what are Blacks gonna do in Illinois, vote GOP?


12 posted on 07/08/2014 4:18:50 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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“It was the city’s highest concentration of gun violence this year.”

Ever notice they never mention how many people were stabbed during the same period of time?

I also like the PC phrase “GUN VIOLENCE!” I never the phrase “KNIFE VIOLENCE.”

I wonder why?????? If we need government control of gun violence we also need government control of knife violence.

The solution to the problem of knife violence is KNIFE CONTROL. Require all citizens with knives of any kind to obtain a certificate from a knife control class before they can even purchase dangerous eating and culinary utensils or any kind of sharp “knifey looking” instrument.

Michele Obama would be able to force people to boil all food to the point that it becomes a mush and does not require the use of a knife to cut it. The only exception would be....of course.....government employees. They could still cook their food like they always have.


13 posted on 07/08/2014 4:20:53 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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(Sigh.) Al Capone's Chicago was much safer than Rahm Emanuel's Chicago. In Al Capone's Chicago you could buy a Thompson submachine gun for $225 by mail. (See "The Law of Unintended Consequences".)


14 posted on 07/08/2014 4:30:52 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: DH
“It was the city’s highest concentration of gun violence this year.”

Ever notice they never mention how many people were stabbed during the same period of time?


You tickled my curiosity with that, so I went looking for Chicago murder statistics. Found a tracking site. Data is cumulative from January 1 2007:

http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/causes/

Gunshot - 2836
Stabbing - 273

So it seems that the bad people in Chicago use firearms an order of magnitude more often than knives. Odd that, since a knife is better for crime, no noise and very debilitating compared to a gunshot wound. Surprised me.

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15 posted on 07/08/2014 4:38:40 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (The fool is always greater than the proof.)
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Before we disarm everyone, we might want to look at other circumstances, like culture, race, and patterns of violence in certain urban demographics. Don’t disarm my family because young, black gang members, drug dealers, hip-hoppers and malcontents enjoy shooting people. Stop accepting that anti culture, glorifying it in the media, and making excuses for it. Feed young minds a steady diet of hate and violence, in their world view, their music, their religion and socialization, and violence is what they give back. Respect for human life and human rights has to be taught, and made a part of culture. Manners, decency, kindness and goodwill towards others are traits that are taught and made perfect through practice. Urban Chicago is blowing it, and more gun laws won’t fix the problem.


16 posted on 07/08/2014 5:09:21 AM PDT by pallis
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“It was the city’s highest concentration of gun violence this year, but in its wake it was ascribed to familiar suspected causes, depending on the source: inadequate policing, lax gun laws, and lack of economic opportunity.”

Lets tell the truth. The cause is “black culture”, where kids are raised by poor, uneducated unmarried women on welfare and with poor (or no) male role models.

One of the local idiots quoted in the article states “You are not getting a guy out of a gang until you bring him a job. They have got to find jobs,” he says. “A lot of these [social] programs probably have a small impact, and are probably worth doing, but in the long term, there needs to be sustainable employment for these guys.” “BRING” them a job?? One small problem- they have no education, no skills and criminal backgrounds. Who in their right mind would hire them for anything?


17 posted on 07/08/2014 5:23:19 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Falcon4.0
And of course the obligatory picture of Police Officers standing behind a table...

Yeah, I noticed that. I also noticed how well armed and how much armor they're wearing. Again, "For me but not for thee".

18 posted on 07/08/2014 5:35:40 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: Joe Boucher
They say there are no easy solutions to the violence. I beg to differ. Enacting a curfew where young, black males (unless going to or coming from school or a job) have to be off the streets by 6:00 p.m to 8:00 a.m. would cut down the shootings and the killings dramatically. It would also probably be unconstitutional and attacked for being racist. Stop And Frisk was a proven success in NYC, but that too was attacked as racist and dropped by the current commie mayor of NYC. Shootings have now spiked again in NYC after dropping the SAF actions.

But who are doing the shootings and killings? Nuns...the elderly...immigrants from Chile? Until young, black males violent activities are curbed, the shootings and killings will continue.

19 posted on 07/08/2014 5:59:18 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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We are going to be accused of "lax gun laws" until firearms are completely banned for everybody except the approved and trusted agents of the government. Of course, the criminals will have them but that doesn't count for "lax". It is the law-abiding citizenry and the freedom to own firearms which is to blame for gun crimes in Liberals' eyes.

Once all guns are banned and out of the hands of honest people, the Liberals (just like Stalin, Hitler, and Mao) can start going after the real criminals - the ones who are a threat to their power.

20 posted on 07/08/2014 6:11:02 AM PDT by Gritty (Obama's governing as president of a Latin American republic, where only the president matters-MSteyn)
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