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1 posted on 07/04/2014 11:44:09 AM PDT by xzins
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“If you go back and you look at the data that has been well-documented over the years, you can look and see, for example, that right now both carbon dioxide and temperature are simultaneously at one of the lowest levels in at least the last 600-800 million years. The last time they were both together at this low a level, more or less, was 300 million years ago, and if you go back go back about 500-600 million years ago, carbon dioxide was 15 times higher than what it is now. So, what I’m getting at is this, the history shows you that most of this is just plain nonsensical today.”


2 posted on 07/04/2014 11:44:34 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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On the other hand, PC climate alarmism is one of the best excuses to win constitutionally indefensible federal earmark funding.


5 posted on 07/04/2014 11:48:36 AM PDT by Amendment10
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NASA administrators will be coming for you now.

9 posted on 07/04/2014 11:52:00 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: xzins

Ignore this Astronaut for three reasons.
He is a cracker, who dares speak against us.
And his agency has utterly, completely
failed in its only mission which your King
assigned it ... to improve the self-esteem of Moslems."

10 posted on 07/04/2014 11:55:21 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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These are kind of funny statements:

“If you have a totally anonymous survey of real scientists involved in this field, I would almost guarantee you that you going to have a majority that are not going to agree with the alarmists.”

Who really cares about majority/minority when it comes to the validity of scientific theory?

“I can only tell you that, even back in the days of Apollo, we didn’t have to face this kind of nonsense,” Cunningham concludes.”

Ehh?


11 posted on 07/04/2014 11:56:59 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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Thank you. and add this to John Coleman’s excellent 30 min youtube video on this costly hoax.


13 posted on 07/04/2014 12:03:07 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: xzins
Ah, he's from when they had needed people that could think. Towards the end of the shuttle program, there was a woman mission commander whose flight experience was mostly piloting the C5 Galaxy.

So on one of the promo broadcast from orbit, she's waxing on and on about seeing the destruction caused by AGW.

I figured she was ordered to do it, but changed my mind when it came out that she preferred to land at wide strips at Edwards, rather than at back at KSC.

An Affirmative Action shuttle commander, not comfortable with handling the ship she was in charge of, imo.

14 posted on 07/04/2014 12:03:37 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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“To me, it’s almost laughable, it’s the biggest fraud in the field of science, certainly in my lifetime, maybe the biggest one in centuries.”

BUMP!


17 posted on 07/04/2014 12:06:59 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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If the (formerly) `global warming’ alarmists/now `climate change’ cranks are going to make an argument that we should spend billions on, to compare the concern with something equivalent, say, discovering whether or not a Proctor-Silex toaster oven is orbiting (former planet) Pluto, they are going to have to come up with more evidence than: 1. “Because we say so”; and/or, 2. You have to disprove it.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Until they do so, we can continue to say, “Go fell a tree with a herring and boil your bottoms! Then pee up sisal ropes you lefty queer-bait silly persons ... we fart in your general direction you—ho ho—wipers of animal food troughs. Oui, ha ha, that’s telling them it, mon Dieu!”


23 posted on 07/04/2014 12:34:04 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: xzins

Way to go Col. Cunningham (USMC, Ret.), tell it like it is. Facts are great destroyers of the untruth. Yes, the alarmist just skip over the required steps of the Scientific Method. And consensus is NOT a part of the Scientific Method.


24 posted on 07/04/2014 12:38:40 PM PDT by Techster
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AGW is popular with people who need to feel superior because it allows them to eco-shame less enlightened beings under the guise of environmental awareness and concern. It's a religion complete with ministers and priests and tithing, as well as its own sacrificial system.

AGW is also popular for those who are looking for more and more money to fall into their hands as they invent "green" "and earth-friendly" products and services for gullible consumers who need to show how much they care.

I wonder what is the breakdown between true believers in AGW and those who are laughing all the way to the bank with their "green" in hand.

Seems like the meanings of re-use and recycling have been divorced from the concepts of thriftiness and resourcefulness, and now are wedded to emotional arguments that cost a whole lot of money and waste resources, time, money, and talent.

There are an awful lot of home products/building materials out there that cost an arm and a leg over conventional materials, yet are x% recycled content. IOW, glorified trash. A successful business model based on converting trash to treasure is one thing, but I suspect that there are some hefty profit margins for those who demonize profits while shaming "wasteful" people.

Generally the whole eco scam is predicated upon ego, insincerity, underhanded manipulation, and outright deceit. Explains why AlGore is the high priest.

27 posted on 07/04/2014 1:08:44 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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"So, what does dictate the Earth's temperature? Cunningham says it's well-established that "principle controllers" are natural forces like sun, ocean temperature, and even volcanic activity."

Yes. It's fake. It came from other fears.

Decades ago, a few men interested in security matters knew that nations would be fighting over oil and other natural fuel resources. The news sent the most influential political constituents into fits of hysteria. Then, west coast political/regulator NIMBYs started wringing their hands about competing for water resources with the increasing flood of slaves that they were bringing in to choose from.

We've also been lied to about the plan for shutting down coal as a fuel for power plants. It's not about windmills and solar power. The plan is to switch to natural gas for firing those plants. The Investors/bosses in natural gas are going to make a killing, and natural gas prices will also go sky high. Follow the money.

Influential political constituents have run to commodities--once considered to be some of the riskiest investments. Each faction wants to force the non-influential masses to buy from it and is regulating against competitors and self-sufficiency (for example, regulations against homebuilt, alternative heating systems that work).


29 posted on 07/04/2014 1:25:23 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: xzins
And do install LED lighting. It's a real money saver. Use dimmers specifically made for LEDs wherever useful in order to make them last much longer. That will save money and will work much better outdoors in cold weather than flourescents.

The following want us to be forced to feed their commodity (energy)-invested pension funds and other funds.

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."

America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution
http://spectator.org/articles/39326/americas-ruling-class-and-perils-revolution

The Fragmenting of the New Class Elites, or, Downward Mobility
http://volokh.com/2011/10/31/the-fragmenting-of-the-new-class-elites-or-downward-mobility/

Environmentalism and the Leisure Class
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2835601/posts

The New Upper Class and the Real Reason We Dislike Them
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2843575/posts

Are you a member of the political class?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/are_you_a_member_of_the_politi.html

Downton’s Class System — and Ours: We have a ruling class that despises the free market and does...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3024119/posts

The War on Humans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWcEYYj_-rg


38 posted on 07/04/2014 2:10:46 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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40 posted on 07/04/2014 2:22:43 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: xzins

Our government is run by professional political class of self promoting, self serving con artists making laws to legally steal our money, and promote at our expense more avenues, and opportunities for themseves to legally steal even more.

Our traditionally respected institutions likewise are run by similar types of opportunists who support they of the professional political class with their hands out for much of the stolen taxpayer treasure.

A cycle that needs to be addressed.


41 posted on 07/04/2014 2:25:24 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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The left is full of frauds.

Global warming, and Obama: the 2 biggest frauds on the planet.


44 posted on 07/04/2014 3:18:04 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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"And, the amazing thing to people like me... is that there are people that believe the nonsense they're being fed."
That applies across the board, not just to the climate liars.
50 posted on 07/04/2014 5:03:03 PM PDT by Cboldt
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The media are largely to blame for public misconceptions - not because they're intentionally misleading the public, but because they "just don't want to go into the time and trouble to find out." "If they do go into it and look at it for themselves, they become a lot more neutral in their presentation," he says.

Most reporters can't do math ... or think in those logical types of terms. It's way they can be fooled them 'consensus' talk - and appeals to authority. If reporters 'looked into it', it wouldn't help much.

51 posted on 07/04/2014 5:35:12 PM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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To: xzins
The media are largely to blame for public misconceptions - not because they're intentionally misleading the public, but because they "just don't want to go into the time and trouble to find out." "If they do go into it and look at it for themselves, they become a lot more neutral in their presentation," he says.

Most reporters can't do math ... or think in those types of logical terms. It's why they can be fooled with talk of 'consensus' - and appeals to authority. If reporters looked into it, it wouldn't help.

52 posted on 07/04/2014 5:37:46 PM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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"In the media, it was being called a theory. Obviously, they didn't know what it means to be a theory."

In all fairness, the fraudsters call it a "theory" and most of the MSM is too ignorant, or too stupid to understand what qualifies as a theory. Or even as science!

53 posted on 07/04/2014 7:55:13 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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