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Michelle Howard becomes Navy's first female four-star admiral
CNN ^ | 7/2/14 | CNN Staff

Posted on 07/02/2014 8:36:53 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson

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To: Uncle Miltie
Ouch. Affirmative Action Admiral. I’ll take bets on that.

Because there is no way in hell that a woman, especially a black woman, could ever possibly succeed on her merits alone. Right? Just can't be done.

41 posted on 07/02/2014 10:04:40 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: RJS1950
No real argument there though I might give some consideration to some Marine generals.

Agreed. Plus Patton.

42 posted on 07/02/2014 10:10:08 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....should' Nuff said!)
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To: DoodleDawg

It’s possible. But in the 0bama Administration, I’ll take bets.


43 posted on 07/02/2014 10:11:19 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The GOP-e scum enlisted Democrats to steal the Republican primary. The GOP-e can go to Hell.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
It’s possible. But in the 0bama Administration, I’ll take bets.

Sure.

44 posted on 07/02/2014 10:17:13 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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45 posted on 07/02/2014 10:17:36 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

No one rises to the 4 star level in 22 years. That doesn’t mean she isn’t good. It does mean, however, that she hasn’t paid her dues.


46 posted on 07/02/2014 10:18:02 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Any general officers appointed to flag rank after the Korean War generally fall into the political brackets.

Patton, Hap Arnold, Vandegrift, Howlin Mad Smith, and many of their contemporaries were leaders in one form or another who rose to their ranks by being competent and ready in a time of need. Others like MacArthur, MacClellan, Pickett,Sickels, were political appointee/self-promoters of the same nature as most of today’s generals.


47 posted on 07/02/2014 10:19:27 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: xzins
No one rises to the 4 star level in 22 years. That doesn’t mean she isn’t good. It does mean, however, that she hasn’t paid her dues.

How about 32 years? She was USNA, class of 1982.

48 posted on 07/02/2014 10:20:35 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

See post #3


49 posted on 07/02/2014 10:24:05 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
See post #3 See her Official Bio
50 posted on 07/02/2014 10:31:56 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: RJS1950
I have a very good friend who knows several General Officers. He drove them. Fort Monmouth NJ.

They ranged from Logistics to Electronic Warfare. Always described as down to earth guys. Really good people. They weren't leaders, they were administrators.

Mind you he wasn't putting them down. They were very competent at their jobs.

I met a Leader/ General about twenty years ago. His response to a direct order was "F#@ck the Whitehouse! We're doing it my way, because it's the right way! A$$holes in DC have no idea what we're facing here."

Wound up with a second star.

51 posted on 07/02/2014 10:34:57 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....should' Nuff said!)
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To: DoodleDawg

32 years. The following strikes me as a fast rise through the ranks. That’s represents 35 fast track years to 010, and she’s there at 32. So she’s still faster than fast.

4 as 01-02
8 as 03
5 as 04
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4 as 06
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3 as 08
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52 posted on 07/02/2014 10:53:55 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: DoodleDawg

Condi Rice, upon entering Bush’s Cabinet.

Not so much her accomplishments while there, but before, she was great.

So quit implying that I’m racist or sexist.

I’m pointing out that leftists are racist and sexist. They promote based on race and sex.


53 posted on 07/02/2014 11:03:10 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The GOP-e scum enlisted Democrats to steal the Republican primary. The GOP-e can go to Hell.)
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To: xzins

Look at similar positions in other services. Vice Chief of Staff of the Army was commissioned in 1979 and has been in his position for over a year. Vice Chief of Staff for the Air Force was commissioned in 1980 and made four stars in 2012. Vice Commendant of the Coast Guard was commissioned in 1982 and assumed his four star office last May. It doesn’t look like her rise was all that exceptional when compared with four star peers.


54 posted on 07/02/2014 11:03:52 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Uncle Miltie
So quit implying that I’m racist or sexist.

What ever would give me reason to imply that?

55 posted on 07/02/2014 11:06:30 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

It is precisely Affirmative Action that calls into question every black’s and every woman’s advancement.

If Government didn’t force racism and sexism with Affirmative Action, then there would be no question about promotions. They would be based on competence.

But leftist’s racism and sexism forever pollute the possibility that someone rose on their own merits.


56 posted on 07/02/2014 11:07:06 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The GOP-e scum enlisted Democrats to steal the Republican primary. The GOP-e can go to Hell.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Whatever.

Glad I don’t know you in real life. Yuck.


57 posted on 07/02/2014 11:07:56 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The GOP-e scum enlisted Democrats to steal the Republican primary. The GOP-e can go to Hell.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
It is precisely Affirmative Action that calls into question every black’s and every woman’s advancement.

To some people, yes.

If Government didn’t force racism and sexism with Affirmative Action, then there would be no question about promotions. They would be based on competence.

And your assumption is that competence couldn't possiblyue have entered into it with women?

But leftist’s racism and sexism forever pollute the possibility that someone rose on their own merits.

Again, among some people yes.

58 posted on 07/02/2014 11:29:14 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Uncle Miltie
Glad I don’t know you in real life. Yuck.

Ditto. Though I do know a lot of people like you.

59 posted on 07/02/2014 11:30:01 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: latina4dubya

Howard was born to former U.S. Air Force master sergeant Nick Howard and his British wife Phillipa. She is married to Wayne Cowles, a retired U.S. Marine... who, btw, is white... i see that no children are mentioned... which is probably some of why she was able to achieve so much...

No children are mentioned. This little fact is very sad. How many women today feel that motherhood is an inconvenience, or worse, an obstacle to their career ambitions.


60 posted on 07/02/2014 12:49:32 PM PDT by manforallseasons
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