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Michelle Howard becomes Navy's first female four-star admiral
CNN ^ | 7/2/14 | CNN Staff

Posted on 07/02/2014 8:36:53 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson

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To: latina4dubya

The question can be legitimately asked: Is she promoted because she is good or is she promoted above all others because she is a black female.

Affirmative action and PC now make that a reasonable question and one with merit.


21 posted on 07/02/2014 9:10:07 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Had the wrong link. Here is the correct link: http://www.navy.mil/navydata/bios/navybio.asp?bioID=394


22 posted on 07/02/2014 9:11:21 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson
being that i know nothing about her other than what i read in the article, i looked her up... some of what i found:

Howard was born to former U.S. Air Force master sergeant Nick Howard and his British wife Phillipa. She is married to Wayne Cowles, a retired U.S. Marine... who, btw, is white... i see that no children are mentioned... which is probably some of why she was able to achieve so much...

23 posted on 07/02/2014 9:16:15 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Hulka

We have been at war for at least half that time, but it’s been land wars. In Asia.

A rapid rise, shrinking military, not much room at the top. She may be good but all the fuss about the First African American Woman whatever and the PC and affirmative action goals of our military tend to raise questions.

I have a dream, that one day, someone can be the first ethnic, or the first woman in some position, and no one will notice.


24 posted on 07/02/2014 9:17:17 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: heartwood

“I have a dream, that one day, someone can be the first ethnic, or the first woman in some position, and no one will notice.”

Absolutely.


25 posted on 07/02/2014 9:18:25 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka
Affirmative action and PC now make that a reasonable question and one with merit.

yes--i take no issue with that particular question...

26 posted on 07/02/2014 9:18:27 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Hulka
Whoa. . .22yrs and a 4-star. I will look into this as something is very, very wrong if this is true. No one is THAT good. No one. Even the fastest rising star can’t make O-7 until at least 20 years, let alone 4-stars at 22-yrs.

32 years... not 22...

27 posted on 07/02/2014 9:20:00 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Guilty!!


28 posted on 07/02/2014 9:20:37 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men d)
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To: JaguarXKE

Thanks!

Love yout tagline!!!

may I make a banner using that quote”


29 posted on 07/02/2014 9:28:15 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

is it me, or does she bear a striking resemblance to James Earl Jones?


30 posted on 07/02/2014 9:37:41 AM PDT by General Moroni
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I think it’s the latter. My father was 20 years Air Force, so I don’t know how it is in the Navy, but he retired a full Colonel. He hold me that when you start moving into flag officer territory it’s not just about talent, it’s about playing politics, and the higher you move up, the more politics takes the place of talent. Because 22 years is a reaaallly short time to get to 4-Star.


31 posted on 07/02/2014 9:38:39 AM PDT by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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To: LoneStarGI
I think it’s the latter. My father was 20 years Air Force, so I don’t know how it is in the Navy, but he retired a full Colonel. He hold me that when you start moving into flag officer territory it’s not just about talent, it’s about playing politics, and the higher you move up, the more politics takes the place of talent. Because 22 years is a reaaallly short time to get to 4-Star

They misread her bio. She was commissioned in 1982, not 1992.

32 posted on 07/02/2014 9:40:45 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

As with most flag officers, the more likely reason is the latter. Political connections; true leadership abilities usually have nothing to do with those who are on the fast-track.


33 posted on 07/02/2014 9:42:43 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Is she hot? ;-)


34 posted on 07/02/2014 9:53:27 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The GOP-e scum enlisted Democrats to steal the Republican primary. The GOP-e can go to Hell.)
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To: RJS1950

Anyone going 07 is a political hack.


35 posted on 07/02/2014 9:54:16 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....should' Nuff said!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Ouch. Affirmative Action Admiral. I’ll take bets on that.


36 posted on 07/02/2014 9:54:25 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The GOP-e scum enlisted Democrats to steal the Republican primary. The GOP-e can go to Hell.)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

Did she earn it, or is it affirmative action?


37 posted on 07/02/2014 9:55:04 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

There we have it.


38 posted on 07/02/2014 9:55:49 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

No real argument there though I might give some consideration to some Marine generals. The rest, all got there through the who you know and who you blow paradigm.


39 posted on 07/02/2014 9:56:46 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: JimRed
"Did she earn it, or is it affirmative action?"

I hope she earned it but 20 years ago, that question would have never crossed my mind. Now it's SOP. Thanks, Bill and 0!

40 posted on 07/02/2014 10:02:47 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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