not saying it's right, but it might have to do with frequency and number... iirc if you sell more than three or maybe five cars in a year you are considered a dealer/need a dealers license the batFAGS prolly have some similar rule
Beck confirmed some of the charges filed included the sale of firearms without a license
Since when does federal law (Beck us a US Attorney) require a license to sell a firearm?
and second don’t engage in the business of selling guns unless you’re a registered dealer
And there's the whole point of this "investigation". Stop the private sale of firearms, by inducing the fear that you could, inadvertently, sell a firearm to a paid ATF "undercover witness", who also happens to be a convicted felon.
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Good to know that the feds are targeting rural flea markets instead of the fruits of islam and MS 13 types that are flying across our border.
Hope this crap comes back to bite them hard. Karma style.
YEAH, RIGHT
The medical costs of housing them fellas will far outweigh any message sent. Ya see the age of some of them?
SOOO, when are these same feds going to go into Chicago or DC to clamp down on firearms sales to known felons?
Hmmmm?
Maybe I'm misreading this -- but did ATF actually hire convicted felons to make purchases? (Otherwise, why would the sale be illegal????)
Sale to a convicted Felon —
Was that Felon also arrested?
If these guys are such badass criminals, why are they walking around free in the first place?
Wow, and 500rds of ammunition as in one .22 brick. I thought you could do private gun sales.
Well he was tring to get rid of it.
ATF, IRS, BLM, and “Homeland Security” are rogue arms of the Obama Administration which need to be dissolved.
This is the Obamabastard ruling once again by phone, pen and government
agencies.
not saying it's right, but it might have to do with frequency and number... iirc if you sell more than three or maybe five cars in a year you are considered a dealer/need a dealers license the batFAGS prolly have some similar rule
This does not pass the stink test.
How did so many individuals find convicted felons to sell to?
Did the feds set a convicted felon up in the business of buying guns to entrap individuals selling personal firearms?
You can sell firearms ... but don’t make a “business” out of it, unless you’re registered/licensed to do so.
Selling your own stuff is okay, but if you do “buy/sell” - “buy/sell” - “buy/sell” and making money at that process, then you’re “in business”.
The second thing was selling firearms to felons.
I suspect that this bust was done “not in good faith”. That is, they know that the charges wouldn’t stand up in court, but they are rated on “arrests” not “convictions”.
If a prosecutor is in on the deal, he might threaten them with severe sentences unless they plea to lesser charges, figuring on railroading them.
And worse of all, if they have a judge in on the scam, he will ignore that the busts were corrupt, and that they are being railroaded, and convict them anyway.
There are way too many holes in this.
In the list of people being charged, every single one includes selling a firearm to a convicted felon. However, no one is charged with weapons possession as a convicted felon. So who’s the felon that they sold to and why hasn’t he been charged? Can the BATFE prove that they knew he/she was a convicted felon before selling the firearm? If they can, how? If the convicted felon was a plant placed there by the BATFE, then the defense’s case has already been made: The BATFE was setting them up, which is illegal! One more thing to add to the list of charges against that rogue agency.
They also accuse them of selling weapons for profit without a license. However, that’s also a tricky one. To prove that, they need to prove that these people were intentionally buying guns for the purpose of selling them at a higher price. If they bought and sold the guns at around their market value, then they were not selling them for profit. If they bought them for themselves, decided they didn’t want to keep them, and then sold them, then they were not trying to profit off it. If a BATFE agent sold a gun to one of them at a steep discount, and then another BATFE agent offered to buy it from him at the market value, then the case could again be made that the BATFE agents were setting them up. And again, that’s another one to add to the BATFE’s rap sheet.
I’m very curious to see how this plays out. Last time the BATFE pulled one of these stunts, it backfired in their face like nobody’s business when a newspaper (Milwaukee, I think) did an expose on their criminal-manufacturing enterprise.
“It’s important because we have a Second Amendment that guarantees everybody the right to bear arms, but Congress has imposed certain rules that need to be followed in order to protect our Second Amendment right to bear arms,”
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Um, isn’t that “infringement”?
26 U.S. Code § 5845 (a) Firearm The term “firearm” means
(1) a shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length;
(2) a weapon made from a shotgun if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length;
(3) a rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length;
(4) a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length;
(5) any other weapon, as defined in subsection (e);
(6) a machinegun;
(7) any silencer (as defined in section 921 of title 18, United States Code); and
(8) a destructive device. The term “firearm” shall not include an antique firearm or any device (other than a machinegun or destructive device) which, although designed as a weapon, the Secretary finds by reason of the
date of its manufacture, value, design, and other characteristics is primarily a collector’s item and is not likely to be used as a weapon. (a) Firearm
It's damned tough for the common man to claim and KEEP his rights the way things are in our country today... It cost a LOT of money to be free... The government owns all the courts, the lawyers and the money...
I remember watching Randy Weaver setting before Arlen Specter (spit!) and Specter saying "See, you thought you would never receive justice...now look at all the justice your getting..!" I think they gave him a million bucks to pay for the family he lost... Just look how far Randy had to go to receive even a SMIDGIN of justice..
What justice did Randy receive? Is the sniper that murdered his wife and kids in jail.?? How about the federal officers that tried to entrap and enslave him in the beginning of his ordeal..? I think not..!
If your not rich...your not free...your just ONE trip to the courthouse from servitude...