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Hobby Lobby Wins !: Where Do We Go from Here?
Christianity Today ^ | 06/30/2014 | Ed Stetzer

Posted on 06/30/2014 7:24:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: FourtySeven
Does anyone know how or if this affects the Little Sisters of the Poor’s case?

According to FOX, there are over 100 cases like Hobby Lobby pending in various lower courts. The decision today was a bell weather for other courts and only led the way for the other cases. If the other filings are substantially like the Hobby Lobby, the other cases will be summarily thrown out in favor of the litigants. The government will have no appeal.

61 posted on 06/30/2014 7:52:03 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: don-o

Thanks.

I was not aware of John.


62 posted on 06/30/2014 7:52:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo, the Sunni Won-Doer, will not divert $'s from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: DestroyLiberalism; SeekAndFind

I’m going to have to wait for a smarter legal mind than mine to decipher this, but it seems that one of the very reasons they considered it unconstitutional in this particular case was because of the corporate structure of Hobby Lobby. So I’m not sure it does apply to different types of businesses or non profits.


63 posted on 06/30/2014 7:53:30 AM PDT by livius
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To: Grampa Dave

Hayward writes for Human events


64 posted on 06/30/2014 7:54:34 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Da Coyote
And, as is my usual, I volunteer to construct, sharpen and man the guillotine when the libs and RINOs are led up the stairs.

Don't sharpen it. If it gets dull, just add more weight, please.
65 posted on 06/30/2014 7:55:46 AM PDT by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: lquist1
  Not a lot of businesspeople these days have the courage to stand up for their convictions even when their living is on the line.

  Exactly! Threatened with 1.3 million in fines per day and they still said no. That's inspirational.
66 posted on 06/30/2014 7:55:47 AM PDT by Maurice Tift (Never wear anything that panics the cat. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: livius

There is, of course, a danger in posting Tweets. Let’s see what Roberts actually says. Of course, also, he is under a great cloud of suspicion for his previous decision.


67 posted on 06/30/2014 7:57:02 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Thanks.


68 posted on 06/30/2014 7:57:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo, the Sunni Won-Doer, will not divert $'s from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: don-o
The decision was narrowly written, and they had to throw the 'Bend-Over Clause'(probably to get Kennedy to go along):

"does [not] provide a shield for employers who might cloak illegal discriminationas a religious practice."

69 posted on 06/30/2014 7:59:53 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Decriminalize Tax Evasion)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Where Do We Go from Here?”

Pitchforks, torches, tar, feathers. I know this decisions is favorable, but there’s no reason why we should be sitting on pins and needles waiting to see which liberty Kennedy thinks we should have.


70 posted on 06/30/2014 8:02:34 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind
>>RE: Evidently Kennedy is very troubled that this mandate/reg came from HHS/Sebelius and not a duly elected branch of government.

>Well, this is something that we should be concerned about. WHAT IF it came from Congress, is he then going to side with the liberals?

Yes, excellent point. The Kennedy statement at first holds promise but there is the concern that Congress can squeak one by, 5-4.

71 posted on 06/30/2014 8:03:34 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: livius

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hobby-lobby-wins-contraceptive-ruling-supreme-court/story?id=24364311

Here is the story that Drudge’s lurid headkine links to. I cannot find Roberts’ name at all. Lesson learned (by me)


72 posted on 06/30/2014 8:04:05 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: apillar

Unlikely. The decision specifically said it applied to one narrow issue (e.g. companies run by Jehovah’s Witnesses can’t decide to exclude blood transfusions).


73 posted on 06/30/2014 8:04:07 AM PDT by koanhead
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To: DestroyLiberalism
From what I understand that was said.This is for a closely held corporation that is not traded.Best to incorporate.
74 posted on 06/30/2014 8:06:43 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: SeekAndFind

The butthurt on MSNBC is heartwarmingly epic.


75 posted on 06/30/2014 8:06:45 AM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Either the parasites kill the host, or the host removes the parasites.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So am I reading what this means correctly: So only churches and closely-held private corporations have religious freedom. Ordinary Americans and other corporations do not?


76 posted on 06/30/2014 8:07:55 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: don-o

That’s the thing I don’t like about Drudge. I’ve felt my blood pressure rise many a time only to find out that the headline was, at best, an exaggeration.


77 posted on 06/30/2014 8:09:21 AM PDT by livius
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To: DestroyLiberalism
"Not to mention, there is also a judicial precedence from 2000 where the Boy Scouts of America were ruled in favor of having the First Amendment right, as a private organization, to exclude people from membership."

True, however, with the help of politically correct National Board members intent on instilling "diversity" at all costs, the BSA caved completely on their own...the BSA committed suicide.

78 posted on 06/30/2014 8:22:10 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: PghBaldy

RE: So only churches and closely-held private corporations have religious freedom. Ordinary Americans and other corporations do not?

You would read it correctly. But ALAS, that’s what’s happening to our country today. Justice Roberts essentially opened up this can of worms when he refused to declare Obamacare’s mandate unconstitutional.

We wouldn’t need to go the Hobby Lobby or Sister of the Poor route had Roberts done is job rightly.


79 posted on 06/30/2014 8:22:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: don-o

“Can we please enjoy a win here? “

Sure, as the surfer said when he saw the tusami:
“Surf’s UP!”

Cartoon is clever.

I think some Jews in Germany might have said: Gee, this star is well made and I won, I don’t have to ride in the boxcar, I can ride on the open flat car.

Yep, a great day in America, I only have to pay for some contraceptives!

I just find it amazing that this is considered a Win.


80 posted on 06/30/2014 8:23:17 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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