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Hobby Lobby Wins !: Where Do We Go from Here?
Christianity Today ^ | 06/30/2014 | Ed Stetzer

Posted on 06/30/2014 7:24:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
RE: Evidently Kennedy is very troubled that this mandate/reg came from HHS/Sebelius and not a duly elected branch of government. Well, this is something that we should be concerned about. WHAT IF it came from Congress, is he then going to side with the liberals?

That goes to separation of powers and is a good thing.

41 posted on 06/30/2014 7:38:57 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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Decision PDF: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-354_olp1.pdf


42 posted on 06/30/2014 7:38:59 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: jazusamo

Great News! The passengers on the Titanic can celebrate getting to move a deck chair from port to starboard.


43 posted on 06/30/2014 7:40:11 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank you Jesus. God bless the Greens.


44 posted on 06/30/2014 7:41:51 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: don-o

Yeah... that’s a common thread in several of these rulings. There is a willingness on the side of the court to rule our dictator back in.


45 posted on 06/30/2014 7:42:05 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: SeekAndFind
Ginsburg has written a 19 page Dissent, not yet available.
46 posted on 06/30/2014 7:43:00 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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RE: Does anyone know how or if this affects the Little Sisters of the Poor’s case?

It should favor the Little Sisters as a PRECEDENT.

Just as Hobby Lobby headlined a group of for-profit businesses challenging the contraception mandate, the Little Sisters of the Poor headline a much larger group of non-profit ministries challenging the same mandate. The non-profit cases are about a year behind the for-profit cases in court.

It would be CONTRADICTORY of the Supreme Court to rule in favor of a for profit corporation and not rule in favor of a not for profit organization, especially an explicitly religious one.


47 posted on 06/30/2014 7:43:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Yeah... that’s a common thread in several of these rulings. There is a willingness on the side of the court to rule our dictator back in.

I hope you mean REEL our (wannabe) dictator back in.

48 posted on 06/30/2014 7:44:15 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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I wonder if this case could set a precedent for the Christian wedding cake makers and photographers being persecuted by the state for refusing to participate in gay marriage? If nothing else it should bolster their argument that you don’t lose your right to practice your religion just because you go into business...
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I’m wondering this very same thing... I don’t see how the Supreme Court can rule in favor of religious freedom for Hobby Lobby, but not for that of Christian small businesses. Not to mention, there is also a judicial precedence from 2000 where the Boy Scouts of America were ruled in favor of having the First Amendment right, as a private organization, to exclude people from membership. Why can’t the same right apply to private businesses that do not wish to cater its product to certain people for legitimate religious reasons?


49 posted on 06/30/2014 7:44:58 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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To: Gadsden1st

It’s great news versus the alternative.


50 posted on 06/30/2014 7:45:05 AM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: SeekAndFind

I suspect that Hussien Obama will again bypass constitutional law and implement this on his own. John Boehner will respond by having a meeting to talk about Immigration reform.


51 posted on 06/30/2014 7:45:33 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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RE: Ginsburg has written a 19 page Dissent, not yet available.

The fight has just began. All we need is another Ginsburg sitting on the court REPLACING someone like Scalia, Alito or Thomas and we’ll be screwed.

This should give some second thoughts to those who insist that a president has to be “pure” during the elections.


52 posted on 06/30/2014 7:45:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

These two decisions still make me feel like I’m trapped in the Alamo ... just sayin ...


53 posted on 06/30/2014 7:45:53 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Decriminalize Tax Evasion)
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Wait. What?

54 posted on 06/30/2014 7:47:34 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Yes.... thanks for that.


55 posted on 06/30/2014 7:49:48 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: pollywog

I did the same. Feels so good!


56 posted on 06/30/2014 7:49:58 AM PDT by itssme
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, this is something that we should be concerned about. WHAT IF it came from Congress, is he then going to side with the liberals?

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No telling. As the Bible says: Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! (Isaiah 5:20)

The way things are going in the country now, I can’t “predict” which way anything will go since what was right is now wrong and vice versa. Thank God that the Hobby Lobby folks don’t have to comply with the evil that was the HHS mandate.


57 posted on 06/30/2014 7:50:25 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. (W.E. Johns)
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This decision concerns only the contraceptive mandate and should not be understood to mean that all insurance mandates, that is for blood transfusions or vaccinations, necessarily fail if they conflict with an employer's religious beliefs.

Shouldn't it mean just that? This is the problem with these narrowly-defined decisions because now the Supreme Court taking upon itself to decide what is really, truly a religious belief and what is only sort of a religious belief? Hobby Lobby argued that requiring coverage for certain types of birth control violated their religious beliefs. The court has ruled, correctly in my opinion, that if corporations have the same First Amendment rights to free speech as individuals have then why shouldn't they have the same First Amendment rights to freedom of religion as individuals have? But that does come with a cost. Birth control is not the only problems some religions have with medicine as practiced in this country. Now they have to sue to get their First Amendment rights recognized as well.

58 posted on 06/30/2014 7:51:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SeekAndFind

“The fight has just began. All we need is another Ginsburg sitting on the court REPLACING someone like Scalia, Alito or Thomas and we’ll be screwed.

This should give some second thoughts to those who insist that a president has to be “pure” during the elections.”

You are so right.

I held my nose and voted for Romney only for and because I believe that he would at least appoint Conservative justices, but we will never know if he would have.


59 posted on 06/30/2014 7:51:09 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: don-o

Did he really say he regrets it or is that Drudge’s editorial comment?


60 posted on 06/30/2014 7:51:38 AM PDT by livius
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