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Lois Lerner Fights Back
Politico ^ | 6/27/2014 | Rachel Bade

Posted on 06/28/2014 9:46:41 AM PDT by VinceASA

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To: VinceASA
Lois Lerner has no records of two years of missing emails and Republican claims that she’s hiding something are “silly,” her lawyer said

Okay, she lost emails; no one mentioned this computer hard drive crash until now; it is difficult to imagine a situation where ALL copies of a given email are irrevocably lost; six cronies also, coincidentally, lost their hard drives; she invoked the 5th amendment; there has been much foot-dragging and they are playing political games by trying to blame everything on evil "Republican claims". No Mr. Lawyer, "silly" is not the adjective that I would use to describe this situation.

61 posted on 06/28/2014 11:54:06 AM PDT by fhayek
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62 posted on 06/28/2014 11:56:38 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: VinceASA
“It’s a little brazen to think she did this on purpose.”

Non starter, of course she isn't bright enough to crash the computer (hard drive), let alone reformat it in all likelihood. She had Obama IT goons due it for her. Not that it matters as a local hard drive isn't the primary location for archival storage.

64 posted on 06/28/2014 12:09:18 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: VinceASA
To clarify, when an employee’s hard drive crashes, there is no effect on emails. When this happens, all historical emails are reloaded from the central email server.

Not necessarily correct. It depends on one's email configuration. A person can pull emails off the exchange server and move to their computer and the emails are gone from the server. Gone. I do it every day. Before I started backing up my own .pst files I had a hard disk crash and lost a lot of email. All email on the server reappeared but not emails that had been previously moved to my PC. Those emails were no longer on the exchange server.

What may be missing are emails moved to her personal computer off the server. However they have never really explained how her email was configured.

Now ... email servers are backed up every day. The emails would exist on backups. However I am not sure how long they keep the backups and whether emails for a period so long ago are even available right now. One would think so since this is the IRS after all and we are talking about a Director at the IRS.

65 posted on 06/28/2014 12:16:27 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: VinceASA

Brazen? That sounds like projection, no?


66 posted on 06/28/2014 12:16:54 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: VinceASA
Everyone knows that Lerner is lying. That is not the issue anymore. The problem is the House 'Leadership' won't send the House Sergeant at Arms to arrest and imprison her for Contempt of Congress. Congress's powers regarding inherent contempt are described Here and Here.
67 posted on 06/28/2014 12:28:53 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: VinceASA

And I suppose it’s just a coincidence that all the other hacks around her lost their hard drives at the same time too?


68 posted on 06/28/2014 12:39:27 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Mycroft Holmes

Well almost but not quite. Lotte Lenya even while acting the part of the evil Rosa Klebb couldn’t totally lose the trace a sad or compassionate core.

Lerner on the other hand....


69 posted on 06/28/2014 12:39:45 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: VinceASA
Responding to recent Ways and Means GOP allegations that Lerner tried to sic an IRS audit on Grassley, Taylor said they were mistaken and Lerner was simply suggesting a referral for the group, not the Iowa lawmaker.

Well that makes it OK, then.

70 posted on 06/28/2014 12:43:22 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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And I suppose it’s just a coincidence that all the other hacks around her lost their hard drives at the same time too?
Well 2010 might have been a bad year for disk drives. 2010 was the last year of the great Capacitor Plague. But probably not.

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71 posted on 06/28/2014 12:58:41 PM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (The fool is always greater than the proof.)
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To: VinceASA

Funny, her attorney came up with these comments one day after it looks as if some judge will render a decision regarding the potential this needs a special prosecutor. IOW, this is an attempt to alter the decision without actually saying anything of the official record under oath.


72 posted on 06/28/2014 1:05:19 PM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: nhwingut

Lerner headed a 900+ person department. How many assistant dept heads, admin assistants, and secretaries read and filtered her e-mails, snail mail, reports, memos, telephone logs, and the rest of the paperwork that leviathan requires to function. Copies of all relevant documents are sitting in plain sight in those offices or have already been copied in defensive moves by the career civil servants in her unit. The first defense, “it was some people in st. Louis that done the dirty deed.” That let everyone know that they were potential fish food.

Start with the departments internal phone book, id the the people on the periphery, their work flow, what they handled, document procedures and so on up the various chains of command.

Who handled Lerner’s calendar, paper or e-docs, meeting schedules, meeting memos. All this is published in some form or another and sits in multiple places. Participants and recipients, all have their own chains of comms and docs.

All of this on top of the IT logs, trouble tickets, vendor contacts.

Give me authority, 20 retired FBI document specialists, a platoon or two of techs, side-arms, and crates of pre-signed warrants, subpoenas and I run through that department like a chain saw through ice cream.


73 posted on 06/28/2014 1:10:46 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: VinceASA

Someone needs to be patriotic and be the whistleblower for liberty. I can not believe the entire bunch at the IRS has no conscience or no ethics at all. There has to be a real AMERICAN there SOMEWHERE, right?


74 posted on 06/28/2014 1:12:05 PM PDT by Math Geek 2.718 (Truth, like numbers, MATTER!)
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To: factoryrat
This whole thing will go nowhere.

I'm really, really, really getting sick of the defeatists and "concern trolls" around here. Geez.

75 posted on 06/28/2014 1:20:34 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Who is William Taylor III ?


William W. Taylor, III

http://www.zuckerman.com/william_taylor

He represented Dominique Strauss-Kahn, who got in trouble a couple of years ago, involving a hotel maid in New York.

76 posted on 06/28/2014 1:30:38 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Covenantor

Except for the authority I wouldn’t need any of that other stuff. Within the gummint there is NO authority to not answer questions of an investigating officer. The fifth amendment doesn’t apply to official business matters. No one, repeat NO ONE, had/has the right or prerogative to withold info when a gummint matter is being investigated. In a former life I occasionally audited nuclear facilities/incidents/problems. Anyone who fails to respond fully and as accurately as possible would be gone before the day was over, last paycheck in hand, and might be talking to a US Attorney first thing Monday morning.

Remember awhile back there was a brief story about how Lerner was indeed talking to investigators within the IRS——she knew she had to.

Too many people, including congresscritters, just don’t know the law or rules that apply. Someplace in the world there is an Inspector General who should be doing all the Lerner Lifting. And if that person is not performing there should be a US Marshall knocking on his door.

The risk, of course, in all this, especially to the gummint, is that regular folks get the idea that they don’t have to respond to gummint requests for anything: info, money, taxes, court dates, etc. The Kenyan has to be just hoping he can get past November with his skin on, after which his buss will be rolling over all his embarrassing acolytes.


77 posted on 06/28/2014 1:47:22 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: VinceASA

I there are sinister forces a play here. It would not be farfetched to think that some FBI or CIA or the same guy who forged Obama’s birth certificate, in the dead of night conveniently destroyed her hard drive...so she could play dumb about it. But here’s the deal.

1. Ms Lerner, tell us who you emailed during this time, and for that matter who you didn’t email?
2. I keep my emails on the service. I NEVER download them to my computer, however at what time, I downloaded them. When I did that, wouldn’t they then disappear from the server sight/
3. They used a back up company, once they canceled the service, then that company destroys all the back ups? Ms Lerner, are you saying you NEVER backed up your computer?
4. Issa should grant immunity to EVERYONE working around this woman, who obviously has been drunk with power over the years.
5. I pray, that the IRS is completely dissolved and our tax laws are simplified ending in our taxes being reduced. We have the highest corporate taxes yet the lowest in tax revenues. States where is no income tax, or lower tax rates take in more money. Go figure. If I paid little to know taxes, I would spend the money or save it or both.
6. HOw about a National Tax HOliday. No income taxes are pad for one year.


78 posted on 06/29/2014 2:46:42 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: JennysCool
Congress getting the executive or judicial branches to prosecute one of their own lackeys would be the equivalent of a mafia capo turning themselves in for summary execution. I just won't happen. Unless congress grows some balls and starts cutting of the gravytrain to the feds, expect much posturing, and not much action.
79 posted on 06/29/2014 10:44:42 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: VinceASA

Yes, the question is why Republicans continue to say the they are lost because of a local hard disk crash! Either they are stupid beyond belief or they are also in on the problem!

Even the stupidest of us realize that emails are not only on the local hard drive so what gives here?

Are the Republicans in on this and think that most of us are ignorant about how all of this works?


80 posted on 06/29/2014 9:19:36 PM PDT by Deagle (ues)
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