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If I take a train from Dublin to Galway, I have within 20 minutes' walk of either terminus hundreds of bars, restaurants, offices, and other attractions at my disposal. If I take a train from say, Orange County to Phoenix, I have within 20 minutes' walk about 5 freeway overpasses and lots of parking lots.

Most of the US is a suburban hellscape, with anything worth doing at least 20 minutes' drive away. This is largely the result of ridiculous parking minimums (forcing business owners to subsidize private automobile storage) and NIMBYs fighting denser development because of parking concerns (forcing the government - i.e. all of us, to subsidize private automobile storage). The true irony of this is that it doesn't even ease traffic; people spend most of their time driving not through interesting things but.. automobile infrastructure (after all about 70% of LA's surface area is pavement or buildings dedicated to automobiles).
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Most American cities are laid out differently than in Europe (other than older cities in the NE corridor). They are sprawling and spread out. Suburban areas have houses with huge lots. Stores are massive, like Walmart, and have huge parking lots. This makes mass transport within cities impractical. Mass transport only works in places with high population density. Therefore, people might we willing to take a train between nearby cities, like Dallas and Houston or LA and SF, but once they get to their destination, they'd have no way to get anywhere without a car. Alternatives could be taxi (expensive if you have more than a few limited destinations), shared ride van (slow), and car rental (again, rather expensive). Plus the train station itself may be far from your true destination within the city (driving across LA can take hours).

This is why trains are not practical in most US cities for most travelers.

1 posted on 05/09/2014 9:49:39 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos
Willie Green is disappointed.

Free travel is the ideal. Anything less is subject to getting there on time via a vehicle.

2 posted on 05/09/2014 9:54:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Too expensive, too slow, too remote.


3 posted on 05/09/2014 9:54:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: GeronL

Willie Green Memorial Ping.


4 posted on 05/09/2014 9:56:22 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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The US railroad industry is one of the most onerously-regulated in the world. The federal government’s to blame. The requirements that the feds have for running passenger trains at any competitive speed are utterly ridiculous; not only “track classes” but also signaling requirements, “crashworthiness” regulations that are absurdly high and not even all that practical.

At railroad crossings, the Federal Railroad Administration even requires that if you intend to run passenger trains faster than 110 mph and up to 125 mph, you have to put up something called an “impenetrable barrier” now (and there is no such thing as yet) or eliminate the crossing altogether. For faster than 125 mph, all crossings have to go.
5 posted on 05/09/2014 9:56:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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Because Hitler loved Trains. Next question.


6 posted on 05/09/2014 9:56:35 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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Because they tell you where you can go, and when you can go there. DONE!


7 posted on 05/09/2014 9:56:45 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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Trains don’t go where my dog and I want to go.


11 posted on 05/09/2014 10:00:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Driving cars and trucks represents FREEDOM for American. Also, because America is so vast, cars are more practical for transportation. Once Euro, who used to distain Americans for their love of Autos, realized that Cars are more practical for us because everything is so spread out here.

Another factor- driving in cars makes Americans less susceptible to terrorist attack AND Government control. When you can control the transit, the Government has its people in convenient, tight little boxes which can be coerced and/or terrorized. THIS is why Obama, Democrats, and other anti-American far-left extremist radical groups keep pushin for Public transportation.

13 posted on 05/09/2014 10:00:49 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. DonÂ’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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Well, in the OLDEN DAYS, driving a car represented independence, freedom, romance, status, and well deserved white privilege, black privilege, Italian privilege, and any other ethnicity who worked hard in the American system and earned it. Trains are cool...but we used to be ‘exceptional’.


14 posted on 05/09/2014 10:02:35 PM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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Because I can get in my car when I want to and go places that trains can’t. I’m on my own schedule, that is the American way.


15 posted on 05/09/2014 10:03:12 PM PDT by doc1019
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This analysis is correct.

In Germany and Italy all the major cities are within two hours train time or less from another major city, and every city has a compact downtown with a centrally located train station and available public transportation.

16 posted on 05/09/2014 10:03:40 PM PDT by wideawake
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Takes me an hour to get to Penn Station or Grand Central, and then I'll have to get a cab to my final destination.

if I want to go to Atlantic city, the trains are twice as long as driving because there's no direct route -- you have to go through Philadelphia.

17 posted on 05/09/2014 10:03:43 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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I would ride the train everywhere if there was a car waiting for me when I got there.


19 posted on 05/09/2014 10:04:02 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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Because we don’t have to.


20 posted on 05/09/2014 10:04:31 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Wagglebee please come home we miss you! ~ Þ)
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Cars are freedom, and even very poor people in the US can avail themselves of the highway. and they can take their kids and their gear.

I love train rides, but I never want the roads, and cheap used cars, to go away. They are a leg up in the world, not just a means to a destination.


25 posted on 05/09/2014 10:08:10 PM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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Trains are successful in certain corridors with the right distance and shape. Take St Louis to Chicago, for instance, or New York to DC.

Other regions, not so much.


26 posted on 05/09/2014 10:08:17 PM PDT by lurk
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30 posted on 05/09/2014 10:13:57 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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They stink!


31 posted on 05/09/2014 10:15:34 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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Trains are generally a PITA because of the points mentioned. I also live in a city where several commuters died recently an a stupid train wreck caused by a union engineer texting to his young wanna-be engineer groupies. He missed a signal and plowed into a freight head-on causing many deaths.

So first, I don't ride trains because I don't trust unions to run them safely.

Second, I don't ride trains because they're incredibly expensive for long trips.

Third, I don't ride trains because they're always late and never deliver me where I need to go. And because I don't trust unions.

33 posted on 05/09/2014 10:19:21 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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It’s because willie green was taken to the gulag on the last train


34 posted on 05/09/2014 10:19:47 PM PDT by mylife
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