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Missing Malaysian jet MH370 may have landed and not ended in ocean?
The Economic Times ^ | 04/22/2014

Posted on 04/22/2014 2:12:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

KUALA LUMPUR: The probe into the mysterious disappearance of the Malaysian jet is now looking at the possibility that the plane may have landed somewhere as no debris has been found so far, a media report has said.

A report in the New Strait Times quoting sources within the international team probing the disappearance said that among the areas it was revisiting was the possibility that the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 had landed elsewhere, instead of ending up in the southern Indian Ocean.

"We may have to regroup soon to look into this possibility if no positive results come back in the next few days ... but at the same time, the search mission in the Indian Ocean must go on," the source was quoted as saying.

"The thought of it landing somewhere else is not impossible, as we have not found a single debris that could be linked to MH370. However, the possibility of a specific country hiding the plane when more than 20 nations are searching for it, seems absurd," the sources said.

Another possibility was that the flight had crashed landed in a remote location, the source said.

Members of the International Investigation Team (IIT) who have been making efforts since day one to find the plane are now looking at the likelihood of starting from scratch, the report said.

The sources admitted to the daily that it was difficult to determine if the Boeing 777-200 had really ended in the Indian Ocean, though calculations carried out pointed to the direction.

They pointed out that the Malaysian-led investigation team, together with experts from Inmarsat and the United Kingdom's Air Accidents Investigation Branch, had to rely on a communications satellite, which did not provide any definite details, including the plane's direction, altitude and speed.

"A communications satellite is meant for communication... the name is self-explanatory. The reason investigators were forced to adopt a new algorithm to calculate the last known location of MH370 was because there was no global positioning system following the aircraft as the transponder went off 45 minutes into the flight," one of the sources was quoted as saying.

The IIT, the source said, was also looking at adding more assets to be deployed to the existing search area in the Indian Ocean, as well as widening the search area as they feared that the search team had been "looking for the plane in the wrong place".

The Beijing-bound Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 - carrying 239 people, including five Indians, an Indo-Canadian and 154 Chinese nationals - had mysteriously vanished on March 8 after taking off from Kuala Lumpur.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: australia; dopplerfraud; malaysia; malaysiaairlines; mh370; southchinasea; unitedkingdom; wildgoosechase
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To: Norm Lenhart
Is there truly no end to the lengths these idiots will go to avoid admitting a muslim hijacked the plane for terrorist ends?

Time traveling subterranean aliens, Bermuda triangles, demons from hell, and our own CIA are ALL preferable thoughts for liberals. Much better than the unbearable thought that it could be a radical Muslim...

101 posted on 04/22/2014 6:32:01 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats are waging war on white middle class men...)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Corpses? Are you kidding? Lets say a plane hits the water nose first at 500 miles per hour. What is the biggest part of a corpse that you think would be left?


102 posted on 04/22/2014 6:32:57 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Political Junkie Too

Are you serious???? Terrorists have hijacked a plane that they’ll presumably use to launch a strike on the United States mainland, and the General is going to protect the source? Until what? A bigger threat comes along?


103 posted on 04/22/2014 6:35:56 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Sacajaweau
Sure, just like hiding Usama was absurd....and the whole damn town had to know about him.

We don't even know if we killed the real Bin Laden.

And I never understood how "burial at sea" was a Muslim tradition when they live in the frickin' desert!!!!!

I think Binny died in 2001. I don't think his kidney disease would have allowed him to make it to 2011. Like our fake President and his fake birth certificate, this was probably a raid on a fake Bin Laden.

Spit.

104 posted on 04/22/2014 6:41:44 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: tet68

Frankly, I’m liking the “Lost” publicity stunt now...


105 posted on 04/22/2014 6:52:03 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869

106 posted on 04/22/2014 7:18:40 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: bigdaddy45

I don’t know, planes have crashed in water before, Iran, Flight 800...were there corpses and debris then?


107 posted on 04/22/2014 7:43:21 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: SeekAndFind

108 posted on 04/22/2014 10:25:24 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Norm Lenhart
No, thats what all the recent talk/news about potential meteor/Asteroid strikes was for. When it hits a big city/sports arena/large public gathering, it will be blamed on an act of the God they don’t believe in and people who survive and claim it was a plane impact will get the TWA800 treatment.

If you're a terrorist and manage to destroy an infidel population concentration with a spectacular explosion, it hardly serves your interests to have your man-caused disaster be blamed on an asteroid. LOL! It needs to be an act of Allah, not of God!

Sure, it's important not to get caught. But it's also essential to claim credit. Otherwise, why bother?

Asteroids are rare, but terrorism needs to be unpredictable and frequent in order to be effective.

109 posted on 04/22/2014 11:02:35 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: SeekAndFind

No ELT...no crash landing.


110 posted on 04/23/2014 4:32:57 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

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111 posted on 04/23/2014 6:34:24 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: cynwoody

What I meant was that the liberals would claim Asteroid impact. Basically they will say ANYTHING to avoid implicating their little tools of power no matter how bizzarre.


112 posted on 04/23/2014 7:34:35 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: SeekAndFind
A Lang o leer ate it.

That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.

5.56mm

113 posted on 04/23/2014 7:39:48 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: BenLurkin

You have a “dryer” sense of humor.


114 posted on 04/23/2014 8:51:04 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: bigdaddy45

A theory that is just as plausible is that the Li-ion batteries ignited, forcing the pilot and copilot to radically change course back to the nearest airport. As the plane filled with toxic smoke, they and the passengers succumbed to smoke inhalation and the airplane continued to fly as a ghost plane.

The transponders failed either as a result of the fire or due to the pilots pulling fuses to try to quench the source of the fire.

The black boxes will eventually be found. The cockpit voice recorder may or may not reveal anything, since it might have stopped when the electrical power was lost. If it did stop at that point, we’re likely to hear a lot of coughing and gagging from the pilots.

Otherwise, internal instrumentation readings from the black box would probably confirm the fire theory. Occam’s razor is satisfied. No jihadis need be invoked.

http://www.wired.com/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/


115 posted on 04/23/2014 12:11:27 PM PDT by thmiley (Still clinging to my guns and religion)
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To: thmiley
A theory that is just as plausible is that the Li-ion batteries ignited, forcing the pilot and copilot to radically change course back to the nearest airport. As the plane filled with toxic smoke, they and the passengers succumbed to smoke inhalation and the airplane continued to fly as a ghost plane.

The transponders failed either as a result of the fire or due to the pilots pulling fuses to try to quench the source of the fire.

The proper action if that occurred would have been to declare an emergency and make a 180 back to the nearest airport, Sultan Mahmud (TGG), which has an 11,417 foot asphalt runway perpendicular to the shore, a distance of only 111 miles.

Instead, no mayday, and they turned west and flew a meandering path until they went off the military radar.

We know from the Inmarsat data that the airplane continued flying until sometime after 0811 KUL time. It's likely a fire would have destroyed the plane before that. Inmarsat also believes it flew south, although that conclusion seems on somewhat shakier ground.


My best guess is some combination of Flight 93 and Payne Stewwart / Helios 522. They were hijacked. Perhaps the captain locked the copilot out of the cockpit and headed for Pakistan or Somalia. He turned south to avoid military radar in India. Then there was a struggle to retake the plane. The captain depressurized the cabin, figuring he'd survive on the cockpit oxygen. But his simulator didn't have a way to practice that maneuver, and he botched it, putting himself out as well as everyone else on the airplane. Then the autopilot flew the plane south until it ran out of fuel and went in hard.

One intriguing detail that has recently come out is that the copilot's phone, which was verified to have been turned off at KUL, contacted a cell tower in Penang, although no call was placed. Perhaps, when the copilot was locked out, he turned on his phone intending to put out a mayday, but there was no service. Then, when service briefly became available, he was too engaged in the struggle to notice.

As for the CVR, it's unfortunate that it only records the most recent two hours. That will likely be quite boring, the interesting parts having been overwritten by engine noise and a big splash.

116 posted on 04/23/2014 12:43:49 PM PDT by cynwoody
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