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One senator’s terrorist is another’s patriot
The Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | April 21, 2014 | Steve Sebelius

Posted on 04/21/2014 5:57:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

So, are the self-styled, armed militia now camping out on the Cliven Bundy cattle ranch domestic terrorists, as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says? Or are they “patriots,” as Nevada’s junior senator, Dean Heller, called them?

They’re neither.

First, when one thinks of domestic terrorists, one calls to mind Americans who have turned against their country and committed horrific acts of murder. Timothy McVeigh, who drove the truck bomb that destroyed the Oklahoma City federal building in 1995, for example. Or Unibomber Ted Kaczynski, who hand-delivered or sent bombs through the mail for nearly 20 years before being arrested in 1996. McVeigh and Kaczynski carefully planned their crimes, where were designed to further a political agenda.

So far, the Bundy ranch gang hasn’t harmed anyone, although a small number of them appear to have committed other crimes. Some appear on video to have obstructed federal officers serving a lawful court order (a potential violation of 18 USC 111 and 18 USC 1509). Others closed down Interstate 15 for a time, which constitutes a public nuisance and disorderly conduct, at least. And one tried to deny access on a county public road to an 8NewsNow news crew, an action that protesters would surely cite as one of their grievances against the BLM.

But terrorism?

The FBI has helpfully collected the relevant domestic terrorism statutes on its website. In 18 USC 2331(5), domestic terrorism is defined as acts dangerous to human life that are violations of federal or state criminal statutes that “appear intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population....

(Excerpt) Read more at reviewjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bunkerville; clivenbundy; deanheller; harryreid; militia; nevada; reid; senate
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1 posted on 04/21/2014 5:57:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They have already committed an act of patriotism.

But they have not committed any acts of terrorism.


2 posted on 04/21/2014 5:59:29 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

as per “ “appear intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population....”

Is the BLM subject to that statute? How about Hairy Reed!


3 posted on 04/21/2014 6:05:25 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

-—Sebilius is the resident local left winger on the R-J staff—


4 posted on 04/21/2014 6:05:27 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Hey— 73 people were shot in Chicago this month!! I want these gangs declared Domestic TERRORISTS and I want them killed with drones!! NOW!


5 posted on 04/21/2014 6:23:02 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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-—Sebilius is the resident local left winger on the R-J staff—

Is he any relation to that POS Kathleen? It is not a real common name.

6 posted on 04/21/2014 6:23:26 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author must’ve been asleep when the government moved its quasi-military goons in first.


7 posted on 04/21/2014 6:26:02 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

!


8 posted on 04/21/2014 6:26:03 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun. Cattlegate..0'Caligula / 0'Reid? ;-)
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"Domestic Terrorism" is just another name for voting Republican.

-PJ

9 posted on 04/21/2014 6:35:59 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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Let's Examine the Complicity of Harry Reid and his Family In the armed govt assault at the Bundy ranch: Reid's son, Rory, has a vested interest in a solar energy project just 35 miles away from the Bundy Ranch.

The confrontation brought to light Sen Reid's blatant conflict of interest---and the possible use of govt power and Reid's privileged govt position for personal gain.

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An article published by The New American in Sept 20012 noted that Rory Reid, the eldest son of Harry Reid (D-Nev.), is the chief representative for ENN Energy Group,a Chinese firm planning to build a $5-billion solar plant on public land in Laughlin, Nevada. The plan generated a great deal of controversy because Clark County officials voted to sell ENN the public land for $4.5 million, a figure far below its $38.6-million appraised value.

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CONNECTING THE DOTS:

(1) Harry Reid's son Rory is in business w/ the Chi/Coms on a multi-billion dollar solar energy project; Bundy and his land are standing in the way.

(2) Reports say Bill Clinton recently went to China to panhandle for his tax-exempt foundation, "The Clinton Global Initiative."

(3) The Clinton Global Initiative (NOT KNOWN for giving out grants)---gave Harry Reid's granddaughter a grant for a Brooklyn, NY theatre she runs (what is the theatre's connection to "global initiatives?"

(4) A Nevada energy company also gave Reid's granddaughter's theatre group a grant.

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"Money laundering" comes to mind. Could the Chinese be financing the Reid's solar project through donations to the Clinton Foundations....which is then laundered to Reid's granddaughter?

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REFERENCE----HARRY REID IS LIVID THAT HIS GRAND-DAUGHTER HAS BEEN OUTED AS A RECIPIENT OF LAUNDERED CAMPAIGN CASH---Reid lashed out at reporters, saying, “My granddaughter has been the target of harassing phone calls, strangers tracking her down, knocking on her door and negative, unwanted attention on the Internet.” “This has gone too far and it needs to stop now,” Reid said. “I deeply regret any role I had in creating this situation but now, as a grandparent, I say enough is enough.”

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Besides the "jewelry company" financed by her grandfather, Ryan Elisabeth Reid runs the Sprat Theater Company, a small theater in Brooklyn, which is also coming under scrutiny. According to Sprat’s Theatre Company Web site, it has received grants/contributions from:

<><> the Clinton Global Initiative (connected to global terrorism via Muslim Brotherhood employee),
<><> two major Las Vegas foundations:
Caesar’s Foundation, and the NV Energy Foundation.

NOTE NV Energy Foundation---is a non-profit division of NV Energy (a public utility). The NV Energy utility is a subsidiary of MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company which took over in 2013.

NEED TO KNOW Did Harry Reid use US government power, US govt agencies, his Senate office, and/or tax resources to enrich any of the above-named energy-related entities?

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email: enforcement @SEC.gov

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The SEC and IRS should examine every document filed by (a) The tax-exempt Clinton Global Initiative, (b) the tax- exempt Caesar's Foundation and (c) The tax-exempt Nevada Energy Foundation, (d) Reid granddaughter's theatre group.

Every official tax-exempt document needs to be scrutinized in conjunction w/ possible connections to govt fraud, corruption, money laundering and tax evasion. Perjury and forgery, need to be considered.

Falsifying Official Public Documents involves altering, changing, or modifying a document for the purpose of deception.......can also involve forgery and/or passing copies of false documents. Falsifying documents is usually done in connection with broader criminal aims, such as extortion, government fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, financing terrorism........

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L/E should to get ahold of Rory and Harry Reid's: (1) check copies, (2) wire transfers, (3) account statements, (4) invoices, (5) bills, (6) delivery tickets, (7) correspondence including e-mail, contracts, loan agreements, and, (8) any other books or records.

L/E should also explore (a) monies Reid paid to brokers, sub-brokers, (b) family members, (c) mortgage brokers, (d) financial managers, and, (e) real estate agents, brokers, and developers.

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BTW, here's Harry w/ his grand-daughter....the one who got $31,000 in laundered campaign funds for her "jewelry company" and grants from Clinton and Nevada energy foundations.

Reid and granddaughter Ryan Elisabeth Reid.

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NOTE The Clintons' shady tax-exempt foundation financing is unveiled in a recent NYT expose of corruption, greed, entitlement, nepotism, and cronyism. The tax-exempt Clintons' Foundation even had their very own Muslim terrorist to carry out presidential orders.

10 posted on 04/22/2014 3:37:30 AM PDT by Liz
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.....the standoff between the government and the Nevada ranching family got rough as the govt flexed its federally financed muscle. Members of the Bundy family were physically assaulted by armed federal officers, numerous cows were shot dead, and protesters faced threats of federal gunfire for merely expressing their outrage. But the national perception is that a resounding victory against a tyrannical federally financed agency took place on the Bundy ranch.

Nevada Dimocrat Sen. Harry Reid had the audacity to vilify as "domestic terrorists"......the peaceful pistol packers, ranchers, cattlemen, patriots, flag bearers, cowboys, cowgirls, Oathkeepers, defenders of the republic, and other Bundy supporters.

Keep in mind, the Reid family has enormous financial interests in the area. Harry seems to have access to billions of federal dollars that he spends as he pleases....with no accountability.

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At first glance this episode (below) looks like money-laundering tax dollars----with Reid, aiding and abetting Obama's desperation to use tax dollars to buy aye votes for Obamacare.

NOTE THAT Landrieu was willing to take $200 million for her aye vote------but Harry "accidentally" gave her $4.3 BILLION. The spread is enormous....what exactly happened to the rest of the money?

The billions could have been laundered through Landrieu then redeposited elsewhere.

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THE GRUESOME DETAILS: In the fall of 2009, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev) was trying to get the necessary 60 Dimocrat votes to pass Obamacare. He needed every Dimocrat on board, which gave waffling senators a great deal of leverage.

In Sen Mary Landrieu's case, she connivingly saw that selling her aye vote could get her maybe $200 million federal dollars.

Obama complied. Reid chalked up another vote for Obamacare. Not $200 million---but $4.3 billion for Landrieu was attached to the Obamacare bill.

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Where'd the money go? How $4.3 billion to Landrieu was attached to the Obamacare bill, and how Obama and Reid connived to get it there, is yet another indictment of the Obamacare atrocity.

The Reid/Obama payoff to Landrieu should be investigated:

(1) as an indication of how EVERY Democrat came to vote for Obamacare in an historic straight party line vote,

(2) how federal monies might have been laundered into the campaign coffers of Dummycrats,

(3) how federal monies came to be used as Harry's personal piggy bank.

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BLM Whistleblower Rusty Hill uncovered corporations and shady land deals connected to Reid Bunkerville LLC, Zion Bank Corp, and BLM lands surrounding the Bundy properties.

Every account held by Reid Bunkerville LLC (essentially secret bank accounts), and Reid-related energy/land accounts at Zion Bank Corp need to be unveiled ASAP.

Nevada flag bearers, pistol packers, ranchers, cowboys, cowgirls, militias, cattlemen, landowners/taxpayers, Bundy sympathizers, Oathkeepers, and other patriots, must demand the Bank Secrecy Act be employed to uncover and prosecute all of Reid's shady dealings.

Under the Bank Secrecy Act, banks are required to establish, implement and maintain programs designed to detect and report suspicious activity indicative of money laundering, and that might be indicative of govt fraud, embezzlement, and other financial crimes.

“The Bank Secrecy Act was enacted to protect the public from harm by identifying and detecting money laundering from criminal enterprises, terrorism, tax evasion, govt fraud, bank fraud, or other unlawful activities,” the special agent in charge for Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation, explained.

L/E needs to examine the above-referenced bank and Reid-related accounts. ASAP.

<><> Joint bank accounts might be used to facilitate the transfer of govt funds. Govt monies may pay for personal and private expenses, credit cards, real estate subsidies and vehicle purchases.

<><> To cover their tracks, the principled might create fake invoices to show that money deposited into accounts was being used for legitimate purposes.

The scheme might be advanced by issuing phony statements of payments from federal and state sources that actually covered the transfer of funds for the principles own use.

<><> L/E is directed to get ahold of: (1) copies of Reid checks, (2) wire transfers, (3) account statements, (4) invoices, (5) bills, (6) delivery tickets, (7) correspondence including e-mail, contracts, loan agreements, and, (8) any other books or records. L/E should also explore (a) monies paid to brokers, sub-brokers, (b) family members, (c) mortgage brokers, (d) financial managers, and, (e) real estate agents, brokers, and developers.

<><> L/E should scrutinize bank accounts for suspicious activities: (A) large deposits, (B) funds transferred from one account into another, (C) frequent requests for withdrawals.

<><> Bank records might also show diversions to other LLcs, secret offshore accounts, to operate personal businesses. Fraud can also be facilitated by withdrawals, gift cards purchases, credit card purchases and intrabank transfers from seemingly legit accounts into personal accounts on orders of the accountholders.

<><> A huge tipoff is whether bank withdrawals support payments for real estate, investment and stock holdings, vehicles, offshore travel and so on.

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REFERENCE When Madoff went to jail, investigators found Ponzi King Bernie had stashed billions offshore---into a labyrinth of financial and business entities.

COLLUSION AND CONSPIRACIES GALORE Some $8.9 billion was funneled to Madoff through a dozen so-called feeder funds based in Europe, the Caribbean and Central America......a labyrinth of hedge funds, management companies and service providers that, to unsuspecting outsiders, seemed to compose a formidable system of checks and balances. But the purpose of this complex architecture was just the opposite: the feeder funds provided different modes

11 posted on 04/22/2014 3:41:36 AM PDT by Liz
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The standoff between the marauding government and the Nevada ranching family got rough as the govt flexed its federally financed muscle.

Members of the Bundy family were physically assaulted by armed federal officers, numerous cows were shot dead, and protesters faced threats of federal gunfire for merely expressing their outrage.

But history will record a resounding victory against a tyrannical federally-financed armed government agency that threatened peaceful defenders of freedom on the Bundy ranch.

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Nevada Dimocrat Sen. Harry Reid had the audacity to vilify Bundy supporters as "domestic terrorists" on several occasions.

NOTE BENE: On the FBI website, we find the relevant descriptions of domestic terrorism: In US law---18 USC 2331(5)---domestic terrorism is defined as acts dangerous to human life that are violations of federal or state criminal statutes that “appear intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population....

Voila.......the most accurate description of the Bureau of Land Management extant today.

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ACTION NOW: Bundy supporters, flag bearers, peaceful pistol packers, ranchers, cowboys, cowgirls, militias, cattlemen, Western landowners/taxpayers, Oathkeepers, defenders of the republic, and other patriots, demand a thorough investigation of the federally-financed BLM.

Americans demand the BLM submit for scrutiny every official document in its possession WRT (1) planned federal takeover of state lands, (2) armed assaults against landowners, (3) connections to foreign entities, and (4) federal financing of these activities.

BLM documents need to be scrutinized for falsification, forgery, bank fraud, and possible govt fraud.

Falsifying Government Documents involves altering, changing, or modifying a document for the purpose of deception.......can also involve forgery and/or passing copies of false documents. Falsifying documents is usually done in connection with broader criminal aims, such as extortion, government fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, financing terrorism........

Types of documents commonly falsified may include:
◾Tax returns and income statements
◾Personal checks
◾Bank account records
◾Business record keeping books
◾Immigration documents (such as visas, passports, etc.)
◾Identification cards and birth certificates

Many different types of acts can be considered as falsifying a document, including:
◾Altering or misrepresenting factual information such as prices or monetary amounts
◾Stating false information when requested to provide truthful statements
◾Forging a signature
◾Using official letterheads without authorization
◾Concealing assets or property WRT obtaining federal/state grants))
◾Knowingly using or distributing a fake document

A person can only be held criminally liable if they are deliberately acting with the intention of deceiving or defrauding another party.

Falsifying documents is a very serious offense and is generally classified as a felony. This means that a person charged with falsifying documents may be subject to the following legal penalties:
◾Having to pay a monetary fine
◾Incarceration in a prison facility

Depending on the gravity of the offense, as well as individual state laws, falsifying documents can result in a prison sentence of 5-10 years. Also, if government documents or authorities were involved, the legal penalties may be more severe. ..... legal penalties may increase with repeat offenses.

NOTE TO BLM The penalties for falsifying government documents is outlined in the Crimes Act of 1958.

12 posted on 04/22/2014 4:04:49 AM PDT by Liz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course Bundy and his friends are terrorists to Harry Reid. They are standing between Dingy Harry and the accumulation of more loot. That’s terrorism.


13 posted on 04/22/2014 6:20:06 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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