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Why Not Arm the Jews In Ukraine?
Townhall.com ^ | April 19, 2014 | John Ransom

Posted on 04/19/2014 3:32:00 AM PDT by Kaslin

As finger-pointing and accusations tumble out about whether Russian nationalists or Ukrainian nationalist are responsible for flyers in eastern Ukraine demanding that Jews register with local municipalities, the most important thing is being lost in the shuffle.

Without Vladimir Putin stirring the embers of Russian nationalism in Crimea and in Ukraine into a flame, it wouldn’t have happened in the first place.

"We are skeptical about the flier's authenticity, but the instructions clearly recall the Nazi era and have the effect of intimidating the local Jewish community," U.S.-based Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman said in a written statement according to CNN.

Whether the fliers were distributed by pro-Russian nationalists attempting to discredit Ukrainian nationalists or by pro Ukrainian nationalists looking to discredit pro Russian nationalists hardly matters anymore.

No serious student of history can look at what’s going on with Russia and Ukraine, without drawing the parallels from Putin’s Ukrainian adventure to Adolf Hitler’s gambits in Austria, Czechoslovakia, and finally Poland.

In those cases Hitler claimed that Germans in each country were being oppressed and that it was his “historical” duty to stand up for Germans everywhere, gathering them together into 1000 year Reich.

This would be akin to the United States claiming all of Canada, but Quebec, on the grounds that Canadians come from the same racial stock as our descendants from Plymouth Rock.

How dare those Quebecers oppress those whitey Canadians!

That Germans in Austria, Czechoslovakia and finally Poland were also victims to Hitler’s violence -- in addition to the Jews-- is likely of little solace to anyone in Ukraine.

As a person of Irish extraction—90% more or less-- I would not want to live under an Irish dictatorship here in the United States any more than I would want to live under an American dictatorship in Ireland.

I’m guessing the same is true for Russians in Ukraine.

"All is over,” said Winton Churchill after Neville Chamberlain gave over Czechoslovakia in Munich. “Silent, mournful, abandoned, broken, Czechoslovakia recedes into the darkness. We have passed an awful milestone in our history, when the whole equilibrium of Europe has been derailed, and these terrible words have for the time being been pronounced against the Western democracies, 'Thou art weighed in the balance, and found wanting'."

Churchill at the time introduced a discordant note; Parliament in Great Britain, and the Western democracies in general, we’re jubilant over “peace in our time”.

After all what was the cost except a few Jews more or less; a few liberal Germans; the most educated and enlightened elements of a country that was bright with culture?

As social scientist Peter Morici observed on the show with me the other day: “The real issue is that the Europeans never want to do anything that’s going to cost them anything. So Putin is willing to endure quite a bit of pain to get what he wants…and the Europeans are willing to endure virtually no pain.”

And for the administration here in the United States, the Jews in general are a pain to begin with, as Obama has demonstrated with almost a pathological consistency.

Make no mistake: If we were talking about a repressed Islamic minority in say Tunisia, or say Libya, or say Syria, Obama would be doing back flips to try to get them arms.

At the very least we know he’d sacrifice an ambassador or two to help them. O maybe even three. Let’s face it, his term’s not over.

So why not, Mr. Obama, let’s arm the Jews in Ukraine?

Hello…

Mr. Obama? Mr. Obama?

Are you asking: What difference does it make at this point?

Yeah, I thought you were too.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: abefoxman; abrahamfoxman; hitler; jews; nationalsecurity; ukraine; vladimirputin
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1 posted on 04/19/2014 3:32:00 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Obama can’t be bothered about Putin’s march to the sea. He’s got this one rancher in Nevada who’s threatening Harry Reid’s China solar deal…..


2 posted on 04/19/2014 3:39:03 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Kaslin

Why not arm the Jews?

The question should be “Why didn’t they arm themselves many years ago?”

Nazi Germany should have been a clarion call to them to always be armed and to expect something like what happened in the past could (and would) happen in the future.


3 posted on 04/19/2014 4:12:49 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Kaslin
Putin and Net are talking to each other.

Putin and Merkel are talking to each other.

Obama and Net are not talking.

Obama and Merkel are not talking.

And Cameron is ???????.

P.S. Kerry is a jerk for even addressing the Jewish registration "farce".

4 posted on 04/19/2014 4:13:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

FWIW, it would take me about a half day to compose, print and distribute similar leaflets.


5 posted on 04/19/2014 4:30:47 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: DH
Nazi Germany should have been a clarion call to them to always be armed and to expect something like what happened in the past could (and would) happen in the future.

Amen, and Never Again.

6 posted on 04/19/2014 4:44:02 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: Kaslin

Arm everybody in the Ukraine


7 posted on 04/19/2014 4:59:53 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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FYI. Jews cast doubt on origin of anti-Semitic flyers in Donetsk.
8 posted on 04/19/2014 5:00:12 AM PDT by McGruff (You believe what your government tells you. Don't you?)
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To: Kaslin
Mr. Obama, let’s arm the Jews in Ukraine

John Ransom,

Why do we have to be the world's policeman? If Ukraine wants to be be part of the EU, go ask them for help.

9 posted on 04/19/2014 5:04:38 AM PDT by McGruff (You believe what your government tells you. Don't you?)
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To: Kaslin

Obama can arm the Jews in Ukraine. If he did his muzzie friends would complain. Also, you can’t be arming foreigners if you are confiscating the guns of Americans.


10 posted on 04/19/2014 5:16:50 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: Kaslin

Former US Senator Obama is okay with sending guns to drug cartels. The alleged Christian in our White House is okay with sending guns to Islamic terrorists to replace brutal dictatorships with brutal anti-American theocracies. But would the drug-addled racist send guns so decent people can defend themselves? No. That could lead to violence, which is bad.


11 posted on 04/19/2014 5:26:17 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: McGruff
I don't support the Pro-Russian forces, but these leaflets are a false flag operation. Just war time propaganda. I think even Fox News is backing away from it.

'Complete lie': Pro-Russian official denies role in mysterious leaflets to Ukrainian Jews
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/17/prorussian-deny-jews-told-to-register/

FoxNews.com
April 18, 2014
12 posted on 04/19/2014 5:35:14 AM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: Kaslin

Ukraine is where a lot, if not most, of the refurbished Mosin Nagant rifles come from that end up over here. There should be some storehouses where the exporters store them. 7.62x54r ammo should be available, too. Maybe the Jews should “borrow” some?


13 posted on 04/19/2014 5:55:28 AM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: dynachrome

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................

‘Same reason they’re anti-gun over here.

Folks could protect THEMSELVES. That’s Not Good. It’s about CONTROL—not guns.


14 posted on 04/19/2014 6:23:48 AM PDT by Flintlock ( islam is a LIE, mohammed was a CRIMINAL, sharia is POISON.)
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To: Kaslin

Endless hysterical historical analogies to get us gun-clingers get say “yee-haaa, let’s go fight dem Ruskies”.

What idiocy.

What desperation.

Now we’re trying to provoke a war by convincing Jews to do the provoking.

Under the guise of “protecting themselves” from a non-existent threat posed by the distribution of a few leaflets.

Once again, globalism will happily feed Jews and anyone else into the shredder to accomplish their goals.


15 posted on 04/19/2014 6:42:56 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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Obviously not a serious suggestion. Other than those with a demonstrated need and permit, gun ownership is illegal. The author only suggests a legitimate reason for the authorities to arrest Jews.

Collective action, outside the law. 200,000, tops, Jewish men, women and children cannot violently confront a nation of 45 million. Only create a reason for persecution.

Should it come to that, Israel will evacuate Jews as they have elsewhere. The US will watch.

Arming militias is only effective with training, and and in areas of contested or marginal control. There are plenty of African Christians who could use that type of help, of course we won't help. But it's not a solution in the Ukraine, nor has the need arisn

16 posted on 04/19/2014 6:57:49 AM PDT by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we donÂ’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: DH
The question should be “Why didn’t they arm themselves many years ago?”

Because it's against the law. This isn't the United States. You'd have to break them out of jail before arming and training them.

17 posted on 04/19/2014 7:00:25 AM PDT by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we donÂ’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: PieterCasparzen

probably should have included you in post 17 & 18


18 posted on 04/19/2014 7:02:14 AM PDT by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we donÂ’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: Kaslin

Israel could arm them.


19 posted on 04/19/2014 6:21:36 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: DH

That what I don’t understand.
What is it about history European Jews don’t understand?

Israeli Jews understand history, why not the rest?


20 posted on 04/19/2014 6:23:42 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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