Posted on 04/16/2014 12:58:27 AM PDT by tcrlaf
Seen several tweets of this over the last hour, and now this vid of the defection is posted on YouTube.
The column had apparently been surrounded by several hundred pro-Russian civilians inside of Kramatorsk, with several older women linked arm-in-arm to prevent it's passing
At about 8:50, you can see the commander arguing with someone on the phone..
A guy that wanted to kill Americans with nukes back in 60es, Nikita Hruschev was Ukrainian.. oddly enough he was the one that took Crimea from Russia and gave it to Ukraine...
Russia is democratic nation. Like it or not. get over it.
Some Americans rallied against the Vietnam war. That wouldn’t have made them more or less Americans than the others, that was about their political views, nothing more.
Supporting Putin in the Ukrainian issue is well expained with simple nationalism.
Yeah right, so is China.
Analysis: Chechnya: How did Putin's party win 99 percent?
How did Putin got 99 percent in Chechnya? This was just two years ago.
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It’s odd that so many people on here put their fondness for Putin above the legitimate aspirations of the Ukrainian people.””
You can thank Barack Hussein Obama for that. Putin stands for his country and his people. Ask who and what the Kenyan faggot stands for. BO is the reason.
Look, when a government adds a province populated by the same ethnicity, and there’s a good reason to think that the province will be better off, it can cause some support from the people. I think that’s common sense.
All claims to the sovereign integrity of Ukraine were placed on the table the day after the democratically elected government in Kiev was overthrown by a small group of radicals.
In the absence of the democratic process established by the Ukrainian Constitution, residents of Eastern Ukraine have as much right to self determination as the residents of Western Ukraine.
If that self determination turns out to be greater autonomy from Kiev or even disassociation, it is not a decision outside powers get to make.
You pretend to ignore the other Ukrainians who live in the Eastern Ukraine and have different views from the ones of their current authorities. Yet some level of decentralisation as well as free use of Russian may quiet them effectively.
Invasion?? where is ur proof of invasion? these are obviously citizens rising up against Ukrainian injustice & banana self-appointed ”govt” You’re not paying attention & drinking US media kool aide
In the absence of the democratic process established by the Ukrainian Constitution, residents of Eastern Ukraine have as much right to self determination as the residents of Western Ukraine.
How exactly is an invasion of Ukraine by the Russian Army self determination?
There is plenty of evidence the coordinated military assaults in Ukraine last weekend were done by regular Russian Army units.
Even without that proof it's totally implausible a bunch of Ukrainian villagers got a hold of high quality military gear and launched those assaults on strategic targets along a strategic route. All at the same time.
And his issue now reside in the USA and teach in the US universities.
~What’s next? The Ukrainians starved the Russians in 1933?~
Do you realize that ‘Holodomor’ wasn’t limited to Ukraine?
Responding to the assertion they’re Ukrainan troops and deception wasn’t used. Deception is as old as war.
In WWII Germans had American speaking Germans disguised as US Army Military Police misrouting mostly by going down roads and changing road signs for supply trucks going to reinforce troops during the battle of the bulge. In convoys they would play traffic cop and point to the wrong direction .The way they were caught was in the glove compartment they did not have a vehicle id. When caught they were shot in the spot.
ABC radio 9am 4/16 news bulletin is not reporting the Ukrainian claim of deception but are reporting flatly:
“A Ukrainian army unit has entered a Russian controlled area in eastern Ukraine and has switched to the other side;”
Point being until they assemble in the town center and sing the Ukrainan national anthem while raising the Ukrainian flag. That will be the story.
Probably, but decentralization now would only seen as capitulation by the Russians, and encourage them to push further aka secession.
There’s a reason why Putin says he would like a federal solution, and it’s one of the oldest tricks in the book: divide and conquer.
Does that apply to our southern border as well?
Why is this happening?
One reason!
Barrack Obama = Arthur Neville Chamberlain
They are both best known for their appeasement foreign policy.
Chamberlain’s empty suit policy ended in World War II.
Will Obama’s end in World War III?
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