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There is no excuse for losing the rhetoric war with those who defy the truth.
1 posted on 04/14/2014 8:35:19 PM PDT by Hoodat
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If two guys are in a verbal altercation and one of them finally get PO’d enough to kill the other. — who won the argument?


2 posted on 04/14/2014 8:39:12 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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Liberals are only good at one thing, making people believe they are VICTIMS..making people believe that the only way to survive in life is to get everything they want given to them for FREE..that is why welfare and food stamps are such a huge success to the left, the left owns those people, for life


3 posted on 04/14/2014 8:41:46 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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Reuters covering BLM and this subject... stepping off the plantation is it?


4 posted on 04/14/2014 8:47:09 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Liberals lie, they promise something for nothing
Conservative have no spokeperson at moment, when both senate/house gop leaders are big government types


5 posted on 04/14/2014 8:58:41 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Hoodat; BillyBoy; sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; ...

I agree, controlling the lexicon is very important.

Notice how they try to call Obamacare by it’s official Orwellian name.

Abortion=”choice”

Gay marriage= “Same Sex Marriage” or “Marriage Equality” (we already have marriage equality, gay men are free to marry woman and vice versa)

Gun Control=”sensible restrictions”

Tax hikes=”revenue enhancement”!

Union giveaways are called “rebuilding our nation’s crumbling infrastructure”

Then there’s the whole “red state/blue state” thing.

Even the word “liberal” itself, isn’t supposed to mean “socialist”. They co-opted it.


6 posted on 04/14/2014 8:59:08 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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The excuse is that the left is so much better at telling lies. Everything they say is Orwellian. Add to it they march in lockstep and enforce Lenin’s iron party discipline. Once the party line is established, they mindlessly quote it as their holy scripture.


8 posted on 04/14/2014 9:05:14 PM PDT by henkster (I don't like bossy women telling me what words I can't use.)
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There is not much hope when the Marxist/liberals control
education and the media.


9 posted on 04/14/2014 9:06:51 PM PDT by AlexW
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LIEberals = Fascists: They believe in a controlled economy where the government chooses winners and losers; they believe in using the powers of the state to punish and imprison their political enemies; they believe the power of the state should expand to control all economic, social, educational and political aspects of life; etc.

THEY ARE FASCISTS - call them on it.


12 posted on 04/14/2014 9:14:43 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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The sooner people understand the crypto dictatorship and war on any one language, the easier it is to win the language war with them.

They reek with cynicism and projection.

The usage of tired race or gender card is their favorite lie, war and perception making method.

Shift their saying “it is racist that white people get to have cops rescue them at home but not blacks” to focusing their personal attack on everyday people and stoning them for any reason.

REally it is an attitude to stop.


13 posted on 04/14/2014 9:18:36 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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And let us not let them call us antigovernment when we are for the balance of power.

We are anti state anarchy led by leftist bought by the mafya.

The sooner we understand the origin of the money of the left running for power, the easier is to see where they are coming from or what they are about to say.


14 posted on 04/14/2014 9:20:21 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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Anything the left says is crypto-paramilitary-dictatorial... really cryptofascism is communism.

For instance the urgency on Obamacare and Executive Orders are equivalent to police brutality and unecessary urgency. It has nothing to do with delivering care but taking the money and the care in taxes.

It is all based on harm, never in good. They are not about ambulances or firemen or brave cops but thug collection.


15 posted on 04/14/2014 9:22:42 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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Actually, the left wins the language war when they get to define themselves as “liberal”, a term derived from “liberty”, when the big government statists are actually the opposite.

Look up a definition of “liberal”. From Wikipedia: “Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality” and Economic liberalism: “The ideological belief in organizing the economy on individualist lines, such that the greatest possible number of economic decisions are made by private individuals and not by collective institutions.”

I don’t understand how today’s Democrat party can call itself “liberal” in the classical sense, given their hostility to individual rights, and blatant support for racial and gender preferences. They also get to use the term “pro-choice”, when they are anti-choice on education, labor, your money, and everything else except abortion.

Under original definitions, I should describe myself as a pro-choice liberal, instead of a power-hungry, big-government money-grabbing statist.


17 posted on 04/14/2014 9:34:37 PM PDT by Rainier1789 (My Constitution has a 2nd and 10th Amendment)
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They win because we let them have the language. Progressive, “gay”, etc. Heck, we have even allowed them to tar us with a left wing economic system; fascism! It is time we stop giving them the language!


18 posted on 04/14/2014 9:39:48 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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There was a news item tonight in Chicago about the dozen or so shootings over the weekend. They employed what is to me the top liberal euphemism, “Gun Violence.” I know this is often mentioned on FR, but I didn’t see it in the article.

Of course, it’s a euphemism because it implicitly excuses the perpetrators as somehow unwitting or even innocent participants in the unfortunate circumstances attendant to the Gun Violence.


19 posted on 04/14/2014 9:51:14 PM PDT by dr_lew
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Wittgenstein and the German Postmodernist philosophers knew that he who controls the Language/words will control the perceptions of the masses.

This is what Goebbels did so well, with Leni Riefenstahl. That is why it is SO important to CONTROL ALL information fed to the masses (JP Morgan bought all important AP organizations and publishing companies in early 1900s and controlled who made “president” at the influential universities and they funded the Teachers college and designed the curricula for schools.

It forms ‘Worldview” and “group think” and they are erasing Christianity from the minds of the masses, to destroy Individuality for “collective” thinking—been marginalizing and demeaning Christianity and mocking it, since the Monkey Trials. GK Chesterton and CS Lewis attack this frontal assault on the Western Worldview which created the Age of Reason and Science and the USA. But “individual Natural Rights from God is antithetical to Collectivism where individuals have to be culled and eliminated.

The Cultural Marxists also got control of schools (John Dewey) and used “operant conditioning” in all curricula to force “opinion” into the Marxist/Atheist/Satanic one.

The Left’s trick is to destroy language and twist all meanings-—so there is only confusion in debate.

There is no Reason in anything they debate or say. They put “homosexual” in front of the word “marriage” for decades, so that when the children grow up, the concept was normalized, and accepted, and the children are ignorant of Truth/God, that they are irrational and ignorant and can’t see through the false logic. The absurd becomes “normal” although it is irrational.


20 posted on 04/14/2014 9:56:46 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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The Truth is hoe you deal with Liberal Lies. You win by not engaging them and discussing nonsense.


24 posted on 04/14/2014 11:03:22 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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There is no excuse for losing the rhetoric war with those who defy the truth.

The left owns every medium of public education but for radio talk shows. The reason is simple: when public opinion can control access to resources, owning education media becomes very profitable. In a system like that, liberty operates at a structural disadvantage.

27 posted on 04/14/2014 11:35:17 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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Dems appear more organized than Republicans in this regard. I’ve noticed a tremendous number of references to the Koch brothers the past week or so.They’re all over the internet and even a caller to Coast-to-Coast made a negative reference. I’m sure the worker bees have been ordered to put the name out there to make them the face of evil by November 4. “Koch Brothers” is going to be this election year’s version of 2012’s “War on Women.”


30 posted on 04/14/2014 11:36:55 PM PDT by cydcharisse (`)
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It is a war of words, and so far, the liberal swine have won the battle with slick dishonest catch-phrases like:

“affirmative action”
“affordable care act”
“tolerance”
“diversity”
“inclusion”
“income inequality”
“social justice”

Who is in charge of coming up with equally convincing catch-phrases for the conservative side of the battlefield??

-—”GimmeDats” is one of the best phrases we need to start using.
-—”Socioeconomic Fascism”
-—”Greedy Liberals” (after all, they are the greedy ones, not people who want to keep their own hard-earned money)

As long as the “GimmeDats” get “free stuff” they don’t care how much the government spends.

Obamacare needs to be called out for what it is: “Socioeconomic Fascism!!”


33 posted on 04/15/2014 1:30:22 AM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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“There is no excuse for losing the rhetoric war with those who defy the truth.”

Exactly what principles is the GOP planning to run on this year? It is April and the election is 7 months away. It is clear to me the Dems are running on income inequality, women’s rights, gay rights, gun control, amnesty, continuation of Obamacare, more spending, and stamping out racism.

What exactly is the Republican platform this year?

- Obamacare - is it repeal or fix?
- Immigration - is it amnesty or not?
- Spending - Any real plan to reign in spending or is it more capitulation?
- Taxes - I haven’t heard a thing.
- Traditional marriage - Any plan to talk about it?
- Abortion - Seems like they are running away from it.
- Defense - Any proposals to prevent the gutting of our capabilities and nuclear forces?
- Trade - More one way “free trade”?
- Abuse of Presidential Power - No talk about repealing the Patriot Act, scaling back ammunition purchases by federal agencies, reigning in the IRS, or impeaching Holder.
- Gun control - Crickets chirping.

Seven months from the election I have no idea what the GOP stands “for”. All I know for sure is the GOP establishment is against the Tea Party.

Is this a winning strategy?


36 posted on 04/15/2014 3:52:38 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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