Sarah Palin: Elect Candidates who Support “Convention of States”

Copnvention of States ^ | 4/14/2014 | Mark Meckler

[Publius]

How many does that make? Three?

[Talisker]

This is madness. The Left would hijack this so fast it would make your head spin.

What we need is ONE new amendment, denying the government at any level from presuming corporate status of any kind for the purpose of enforcing any law. Require them, instead, to give to prove corporate status in a court filing, subject to personal liability for fraud, before any action may be taken to enforce any law.

THAT is what it would take to get the country back - nothing less.

[PapaNew]

Well, I think you're right. I would think there would be enough sensible people in the interested states to understand the need and the scope of the limitations and the point of this whole thing: get government back into its Constitutional cage. I think they would not allow a rogue movement. If they had to, they would either force the rogues to leave or they would leave and try again later with better vetted reps.

BTW, do you know how many states have actually signed on to this specif C of C proposed by the CSG?

[nathanbedford]

Nathan Bedford's first Maxim of the American Constitution:

The Constitution has become so distorted in interpretation and application that it has become at best ineffective in protecting liberty and at worst an instrument inflicting tyranny.

Nathan Bedford's second Maxim of the American Constitution:

The American Constitution is being amended everyday without the consent of the governed.

In order to believe that a Convention of the States presents a greater threat to liberty than our current state of politics one must believe:

1. The Constitution is not being amended by three women in black robes +1 liberal in black robes +1 swing vote on a case by case basis.

2. The Constitution is not being amended at the caprice of the president by executive order.

3. The Constitution is not being amended at the caprice of the president when he chooses which laws he will "faithfully" execute.

4. The Constitution is not being amended daily by regulation done by an unaccountable bureaucracy.

5. The Constitution is not being amended by simply being ignored.

6. The Constitution is not being amended by international treaty.

7. The Constitution is not being amended by Executive Order creating treaty powers depriving citizens of liberty as codified in the Bill of Rights.

8. The Constitution is not being amended by international bureaucracies such as, UN, GATT, World Bank, etc.

9. The Constitution is being amended by the Federal Reserve Bank without reference to the will of the people.

10. The federal government under our current "constitutional" regime has suddenly become capable of reforming itself, balancing the budget and containing the debt.

11. The national debt of the United States is sustainable and will not cause the American constitutional system and our economy to crash and with them our representative democracy, the rule of law, and the Constitution, such as it is, itself.

12. The Republican Party presuming it gains a majority in the House and the Senate and gains the White House will now do what is failed to do even under Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush and balance the budget, reduce the debt, stop regulating, reform the tax system, end crony capitalism, appoint judges who will not betray us and, finally, listen to the people.

13. That a runaway Convention of the States will occur, that it will persuade the delegates from conservative states, that it will be ratified by three quarters of the states' legislatures among whom conservatives control a majority, and the end result will somehow be worse than what we have now.

14. If we do nothing everything will be fine; if we keep doing what we have been doing everything will be fine; we have all the time in the world.

[Repeal The 17th]

Still only one state with full passage.
A half-dozen or so are in various legislative processes.

[Jacquerie]

You must craft a vanity, a freeper-editorial around #44. No excuses. Ping the world, including JimRob. Most objections to Article V involve its potential pain v. gain. Absent reform, our pretend constitutional republic is headed for certain destruction.

[nathanbedford]

Thanks for your kind words but I think the reply needs work before it can become a vanity and I was hoping to get some help from both supporters and critics of The Article V movement on this thread.

[Jacquerie]

You’ve done the heavy lifting.

Start perhaps with the premise, “Many of those uncomfortable with Article V believe the solution is to elect conservatives, who in turn will enforce our written constitution.”

Run with it.

[Loud Mime]

BTTT

[SC_Pete]

The LEFT already hijacked the country. There are two constitutions: the one that was written and the one that is interpreted by judges. We need to restore the former. Only We the People can do that. That’s why James Madison put the provision in: Article V.

Frankly, to paraphrase Einstein, it’s madness to keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. We are doomed without action. The LEFT ALREADY WON. We now have a chance to take back our Republic.

[SC_Pete]

Hey, I already apologized in this thread for not editing. I ain’t apologizing twice.

[SC_Pete]

Washington will never reform itself. The only hope this Unfree Republic has is to use the Constitution to roll back the power and scope of the federal government.

Article V ping!

[TomGuy]

You should add to your list the 2 recent SCJ’s who advocated that international law trumped The Constitution. [Stevens & O’Connor]

Those, with open-borders politicians, do damage on a daily basis, and intentionally dilute the authority of The Constitution.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Oh yes we really want a convention of the States-sarcasm!

Imagine a convention including Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York, Rhode Island, Maine, Delaware, New Jersey, Illinois, California, New Mexico, Minnesota etc. etc.(H*ll, even Iowa is doubtful, the left has really been working, thus they are winning.) Our problem is the Third World invasion being used by our own indigenous Third World demographic to gain political control. There will have to be a fight first. If we win the fight then we can tinker with the "Convention." The States of 1790 are not the States of 2014.

[TomGuy]

Most objections to Article V involve its potential pain v. gain.

Such an activity would have to be well thought out, gone through legal review, etc. You can bet the opposition will go through it with a fine tooth comb to find loopholes and ways to co-opt it.

Look at what happened to the Tea Party in many areas: politicians and individuals tried (and still try) to co-opt it for their own reasons.

Such a 'convention' might well be formed with the best of intentions, but it is the unintended consequences that could do greater damage. [Think Obamacare committee creating that monstrosity -- behind closed doors.]

Someone posted 'rules' in a related thread. Basically, an Article V would require 30-some state legislatures to call for it. The wording would have to be almost identical in all state resolutions.

30-some states agreeing on a document? That could be a popcorn event. What are the other states and opposition going to be doing? Setting quietly in the corner? What, exactly, is/are the provisions this document will have?

There are still too many question, too few answers, to jump onboard with a bunch of politicians/political appointees tinkering with The Constitution -- behind closed doors.

[TomGuy]

Imagine a convention including Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York, Rhode Island, Maine, Delaware, New Jersey, Illinois, California, New Mexico, Minnesota etc. ...

Many of these are the same states that are currently trying to dismantle the Electoral College for presidential elections. After 200+ years, why? And many smaller states are too stupid to realize that, if the EC were dismantled, they would have zero influence in presidential elections. Future elections would be controlled by large population centers: NYC, Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles, etc.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Agree.

[hattend]

I thought if a CofC is convened then every hair brained idea conceived can be put up for a vote.

Do we want to risk that?

[diogenes ghost]

"If we do nothing everything will be fine; if we keep doing what we have been doing everything will be fine; we have all the time in the world."

Well I'm glad to see you have come to your senses, I was worried that you had taken the 'Con-Con' bait.

[Strawberry AZ]

Excellent news, indeed!

Here's an update on our efforts to get Article V legislation passed here in Arizona:

After months of working its way through myriad legislative hoops, SCR1016 passed the House yesterday and is now headed to the Senate for a final vote of the full chamber... no more committees, no more hearings.

I am told that the President of the Senate, Andy Biggs, has promised to oppose all attempts to allow a vote on any Article V legislation. Although a reliable conservative on most matters, he has been compromised on this issue by the John Birch Society and others who prefer the status-quo to remedy.

We are being asked, once again, to man the phone lines and our keyboards and urge this man to either step up, or step out of the way.

I've sent the following letter to Senator Biggs, with a copy to every member of the senate, and as an open letter to the Editor of the East Valley Tribune (his home district is Gilbert, AZ), plus as visible CC’s to both conservative editorial columnists at the Arizona Republic (yes, there are two), Robert Robb and Doug MacEachern, to the Greater Phoenix Tea Party, the Arizona Red Mountain Patriots, the East Valley Tea Party Patriots and the Chairman of the Gilbert Tea Party, among others.

I now ask all freedom-loving patriots to join me. You don't have to live in Arizona to speak truth to power. Share your own thoughts with the Senator... and with his constituents.

When you shake a tree, you never know what will fall…

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Senator Biggs,

When you took your oath of office, you swore to uphold the Constitution… all of it, including Article V. Those 143 divinely-inspired words give specific authority (and the implied obligation) to state legislatures to propose amendments to the Constitution when needed to remedy federal overreach. Recent events on our border with Nevada have shown us and freedom-loving Americans all across the nation that the time has come, and SCR1016 answers the call.

Now, with the eyes of the nation upon us, for you to shrink from your sworn duty and obligation, and to prevent our duly-elected representatives from rising to this sorely needed task, deprives the people of Arizona their sovereign right to a full and open vetting of this critical matter.

Please trust the people… please have faith in your colleagues… please join them and allow the assembly to openly and fairly determine what’s best for Arizona and for the nation… and lastly, please look humbly to a Higher Authority for the strength to push away from the grip of those who are blinded by fear.

Allow Article V of our blessed Constitution to see the light of day. Let SCR1016 be heard.

Michael Alexander
Strawberry

CC: Robert Robb robert.robb@arizonarepublic.com; Doug MacEachern doug.maceachern@arizonarepublic.com; Editor East Valley Tribune info@eastvalleytribune.com; Greater Phoenix Tea Party greaterphoenixdirectors@gmail.com; Arizona Red Mountain Patriots rhamerican@gmail.com; East Valley Tea Party Patriots kathykg26158@msn.com; Keith Sipmann info@americanpoliticalanalysis.com; Gilbert Tea Party events@phoenixteaparty.ning.com; Buckley Merrill ussliberty@hotmail.com

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Now, here is a list of members' eMail addresses and phone numbers (Area Code 602), followed by a list of just the eMail addys for blast-mail purposes

I've never asked for help like this... up until now, we haven't needed it this badly...

Andy Biggs President R abiggs@azleg.gov 926-4371
Gail Griffin Pres Pro Tem R ggriffin@azleg.gov 926-5895
John McComish Maj Leader R jmccomish@azleg.gov 926-5898
Adam Driggs Maj Whip R adriggs@azleg.gov 926-3016
Nancy Barto R nbarto@azleg.gov 926-5766
Judy Burges R jburges@azleg.gov 926-5861
Chester Crandell R ccrandell@azleg.gov 926-5409
David Farnsworth R dfarnsworth@azleg.gov 926-3020
Al Melvin R amelvin@azleg.gov 926-4326
Rick Murphy R rmurphy@azleg.gov 926-4444
Steve Pierce R spierce@azleg.gov 926-5584
Michele Reagan R mreagan@azleg.gov 926-5828
Don Shooter R dshooter@azleg.gov 926-4139
Kelli Ward R kward@azleg.gov 926-4138
Bob Worsley R bworsley@azleg.gov 926-5760
Steve Yarbrough R syarbrough@azleg.gov 926-5863
Kimberly Yee R kyee@azleg.gov 926-3024

Anna Tovar Min Leader D atovar@azleg.gov 926-3392
Lynne Pancrazi Asst Min Leader D lpancrazi@azleg.gov 926-3004
Steve Gallardo Min Whip D sgallardo@azleg.gov 926-5830
Ed Ableser D eableser@azleg.gov 926-4118
Carlyle Begay D cbegay@azleg.gov 926-5862
David Bradley D dbradley@azleg.gov 926-5262
Olivia Cajero Bedford D ocajerobedford@azleg.gov 926-5835
Andrea Dalessandro D adalessandro@azleg.gov 926-5342
Steve Farley D sfarley@azleg.gov 926-3022
Katie Hobbs D khobbs@azleg.gov 926-5325
Leah Landrum Taylor D llandrum@azleg.gov 926-3830
Barbara McGuire D bmcguire@azleg.gov 926-5836
Robert Meza D rmeza@azleg.gov 926-3425

abiggs@azleg.gov, ggriffin@azleg.gov, jmccomish@azleg.gov, adriggs@azleg.gov, nbarto@azleg.gov, jburges@azleg.gov, ccrandell@azleg.gov, dfarnsworth@azleg.gov, amelvin@azleg.gov, rmurphy@azleg.gov, spierce@azleg.gov, mreagan@azleg.gov, dshooter@azleg.gov, kward@azleg.gov, bworsley@azleg.gov, syarbrough@azleg.gov, kyee@azleg.gov, atovar@azleg.gov, lpancrazi@azleg.gov, sgallardo@azleg.gov, eableser@azleg.gov, cbegay@azleg.gov, dbradley@azleg.gov, ocajerobedford@azleg.gov, adalessandro@azleg.gov, sfarley@azleg.gov, khobbs@azleg.gov, llandrum@azleg.gov, bmcguire@azleg.gov, rmeza@azleg.gov

As a post-script, I should add that Senator Biggs is a devout Christian. He truly believes, as I do, that the Framers of the Constitution were guided by God, and that every word is sacred. He has said this publicly in defense of his opposition to any amendment proposals. What I disagree with is his logic - if we are to adhere to every word of the Constitution as written, then that would necessarily include the 143 words in Article V. He cannot cherry-pick his Articles, upholding the easy ones, and ignoring the ones that require wisdom, strength, courage, and faith in the inherent patriotism of the American people, characteristics that he, and those who have clouded his reasoning, simply do not share.