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AP NEWSBREAK: RUSSIAN JET PASSES NEAR US WARSHIP
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Posted on 04/14/2014 10:18:28 AM PDT by traumer

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To: wideawake

Please. I wasn’t arguing who is right and who is wrong. All I was saying is that when there is a very tense situation, you don’t send a ship in to stir things up UNLESS you are prepared to back it up.

No, if Putin attacked one of our ships, I certainly wouldn’t say it was justified. I’m just saying, IF he did such a thing, is Obama prepared to respond? I seriously doubt it. He never hesitates to send our troops into harm’s way. But he is not prepared to defend them. Like Afghanistan, it’s merely a political gesture, with our troops’ lives on the line—and often with Rules of Engagement that do not permit them to defend themselves.


21 posted on 04/14/2014 10:33:26 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: traumer

Why?...................Because they can...........................


22 posted on 04/14/2014 10:33:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Cicero
Have Obama or his carefully selected military leaders made any plans for what they would do in response?

They're busy right now and can't be bothered. The new LGBQT recruitment campaign is about to kickoff and they're putting the final rainbow colors on the new uniforms.

23 posted on 04/14/2014 10:34:00 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: traumer
SU-24 apparently unarmed

Open up that internal weapons storage and see whats in it. Unarmed my rear.

24 posted on 04/14/2014 10:34:08 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: traumer

If it had been a carrier some F18 Hornets would have been on his butt lighting him up.


25 posted on 04/14/2014 10:34:52 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: traumer

Absolutely no reason for us to have a ship there. It’s taunting and stupid.


26 posted on 04/14/2014 10:35:25 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: AppyPappy

I was thinking A-5 Vigilante. Now there’s a blast from the past.


27 posted on 04/14/2014 10:35:38 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: traumer

We should pray for everyone serving in our armed forces. We have a clueless metrosexual community organizer as commander in chief. A fool who that is placing those in uniform at risk.


28 posted on 04/14/2014 10:36:24 AM PDT by Made In The USA (I'm not yelling, just... just talking enthusiastically..)
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To: traumer
Putin bear photo: Putin on a bear Putin-on-a-bear_zps38723422.jpg
29 posted on 04/14/2014 10:38:18 AM PDT by tumblindice (Are all Democrats inveterate, habitual liars?)
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To: Cicero

Oh Black Sea is Russian now? I thought it was international waters.
Did we buzz the Russian ships that paid a call to Cuba?
I can’t believe the excuses around here for Russia’s increasingly aggressive actions.


30 posted on 04/14/2014 10:42:53 AM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: traumer

Hope the skipper of the “USS Cook” watches those Turkish shipping channels. Already had 1 captain relieved this spring for plowing mud in Turkey during the Sochi Olympic Games.


31 posted on 04/14/2014 10:45:36 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: DCBryan1

I think the Fencer has no internal weapons storage. Too old and too small for that. Everything hangs from hard points in plain sight.


32 posted on 04/14/2014 10:46:47 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: Cicero

“You don’t make a provocative move like that—sending a warship into what are basically Russian waters, whatever the international legal position may be—without having backup plans. But it seems very unlikely that Obama’s jerks have made any such plans.”

Obama seems to be following the footsteps of LBJ

http://415vva.homestead.com/Mil-Hist-VN-Gulf-of-Tonkin-Incident.pdf


33 posted on 04/14/2014 10:49:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obama cannot divert resources from his war on Americans!)
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To: edpc

F8U?

An electricians nightmare.

I remember - at that time I was an AE2


34 posted on 04/14/2014 10:51:48 AM PDT by airdalechief
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To: wideawake

I don’t think the Russians think the US is being a grownup here. I believe they taunt because they know the US will not react but whine, kind of like Eric Holder does when he is challenged.

Maybe the Russians find it amusing.


35 posted on 04/14/2014 10:53:41 AM PDT by dforest
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To: afsnco
I think the Fencer has no internal weapons storage. Too old and too small for that. Everything hangs from hard points in plain sight.

Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle!

I thought the SU-24 was just like the F111, with an internal bomb bay. THanks for the education! You made me less ignorant today!

36 posted on 04/14/2014 10:55:19 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: edpc

F-8U. The last gun fighter.


37 posted on 04/14/2014 10:56:37 AM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: backwoods-engineer

I recall from my Psychology 101 class eons ago the concept of displaced aggression. If someone is feeling a threat that they can’t respond to directly, they may take it out on someone else or something totally unrelated. Maybe this is why the Bamster got busy trying to conduct a military raid on a Nevada cattle rancher. He wanted to feel powerful, but wanted an enemy that wouldn’t shoot back. (That didn’t work out as planned.)

As someone recently wrote on FR, Obama is “a Caesar at home, and a Chamberlain abroad”.


38 posted on 04/14/2014 10:57:14 AM PDT by Avid Coug
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To: OldMissileer

“...the Marxist in the White Hut really wants to turn the United States into a worthless third world country.”

Well, we’re on our way *there*, in so many ways.


39 posted on 04/14/2014 10:58:00 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Gen.Blather

I think the decline America is experiencing now is even deeper, more precipitous than what we suffered under Carter. The big difference is that our enemies don’t even have to take advantage of the weakness; they just have to sit back and let the 0bama cancer continue to do its work. One day the wind will blow a little bit harder and the termite-riddled house will come down around us.


40 posted on 04/14/2014 11:00:41 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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