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Ukraine turmoil LIVE UPDATES (CIA director John Brennan gave go-ahead to Kiev regime)
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Posted on 04/13/2014 3:21:58 AM PDT by kronos77

Sunday, April 13 09:58 GMT: A video, showing anti-Maidan protesters in Slavyansk who have erected barricades in front of the regional police department, has been published online by an eyewitness.

09:54 GMT: A video showing armored infantry vehicles in the Donetsk region city of Slavyansk has been published online by Delovoy Slavyansk newspaper. The video shows at least a dozen vehicles with military personnel apparently preparing for the Kiev-ordered crackdown.

09:25 GMT: One Ukrainian state security officer was killed and five others were wounded on the side of government forces in a security operation against anti-Maidan protesters in Slavyansk, Ukraine’s east, according to the acting interior minister.

On the side of the protesters, there was an "unidentifiable number" of casualties during the operation, Arsen Avakov said on his Facebook page.

09:23 GMT: The troops besieging Ukraine’s Slavyansk all come from Western Ukraine, a source in Ukraine’s security agencies told RIA Novosti on condition of anonymity. The source also alleged that they are the entire contingent of western Ukrainian forces.

09:06 GMT: The anti-Maidan protesters have seized the city council, police and prosecutors’ office buildings in the Donetsk region town of Enakievo. The town is home to some 85,000 people.

09:06 GMT: US Vice-President Joe Biden will visit Kiev on April 22 to show Washington’s support “for a united, democratic Ukraine that makes its own choices about its future path,” the White House said.

Meanwhile, CIA director John Brennan has reportedly already visited Kiev and held a meeting with the country’s leaders, as well as with representatives of Ukraine’s security agencies, a source from Ukraine’s parliament, the Verkhovna Rada, told Interfax news agency.

According to unconfirmed reports, Brennan influenced the decision by the Kiev authorities to crackdown on anti-Maidan activists in the eastern city of Slavyansk, the source said.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: kiyev; obama; russia; urkaine
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To: mac_truck

For about three years I’ve been reading the posts on an expat site based in Ukraine for mostly Westerners either living in Ukraine or looking into moving there. The members live all over Ukraine including the eastern part and the Crimea. None of the reported events you have accepted as fact were seen by people or the members of their families living there.

Check the older posts out for yourself.

http://www.expatua.com/forum


21 posted on 04/13/2014 6:55:44 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: kronos77
An overwhelming majority in Eastern Ukraine don't want to be part of Russia.

The two dozen Putin worshippers who post incessantly here rooting on Putin's destabilization efforts in E. Ukraine against the will of the people there haven't a clue about truth, freedom and the meaning of what it is to be a free republic.

22 posted on 04/13/2014 7:02:05 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: meatloaf
None of the reported events you have accepted as fact were seen by people or the members of their families living there.

These events were recorded as they happened. There are photos, videos, interviews and on-site reporting. With that much empirical evidence available, who cares what someone else claims they didn't see?

23 posted on 04/13/2014 7:17:12 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: kronos77

Who are the good guys in the Ukrainian conflict?


24 posted on 04/13/2014 7:29:01 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Thunder90

It’s time to arm the Ukrainians so they can kill the Russian invaders. Leave Ukraine to the Ukrainians, not the Putinistas.


25 posted on 04/13/2014 7:38:36 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: mac_truck

Obviously you have no idea how pervasive the Russian disinformation program is. At best that makes you a dupe. When people who actually live in the towns and cities refute what the Western media is reporting, that’s a problem. I posted an obvious example of Russian lying with the documented example of the Ukrainian flagship’s announced defection in the Russian press which was parroted in the West.

Surprise! Surprise! The defection never occurred. It was propaganda put out to convince other Ukrainian ships to defect. That didn’t happen either.

The main message of the disinformation is that most of the Ukrainians in the East want a closer association with Russia when that is not true. Russia has shipped in busloads of so-called protestors for the choreographed demonstrations and they have an active provocateur presence to stir up trouble.

Meanwhile back at the ranch we think the Cold War ended long ago. Remember the peace dividend? That was BS too.


26 posted on 04/13/2014 7:40:37 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: meatloaf

Good points. The whole purpose of Putinism is to steal from the people. How do these people who buy into his propaganda think Putin got his $75 billion, playing poker?


27 posted on 04/13/2014 7:41:16 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: meatloaf

Also, how about the fact that the spetsnaz were in Crimea and Putin said they were local militias unrelated to his nation? Putin and the putinistas have been duping the gullible for a long time.


28 posted on 04/13/2014 7:43:14 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: kronos77
Croatia. That was the second war Serbia started. And Kosovo was the third war Milosevic started. I remember going through Kosovo and seeing nearly all the roofs blown off of the houses. His troops would enter the empty homes, (the Kosovars had fled, remember) turn on the gas, and then toss a grenade in to them. The roofs flew off. Probably over half the homes I saw were like that. As you recall, he lost that war, too, like the others. Then, his own people overthrew him; he was indisputably a bad leader. He was like Putin, too. He’d been a commie, then when that viciousness racket ended he needed a new gig to justify his power. Again, like Putin, he wrapped himself in ultra-nationalism and ethnic chauvinism. I imagine you remember all of that, though. He had his cheerleaders too. But in the end, his own hubris brought him down.

Hey, do you remember how the Serbs were beaten in the war they started in Slovenia?

29 posted on 04/13/2014 7:52:51 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Had they waited until the election...which was only a few months away...maybe things would be different.

Putin wanted to get the Crimea one way or another, Putin also knew that his puppet was going to lose the election so better to kick he table over and shoot out the light.

30 posted on 04/13/2014 8:06:25 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: elhombrelibre

Yugoslavia fell apart because of greed, arrogance and sectarianism on the part of all its leaders. It was the first multiethnic federation in Europe to fall apart because no one would take responsibility for its future.

We see the same thing happening in Ukraine today. No one is taking responsibility for the fate of the country. And the regime has there has only underlined its own illegitimacy by shedding Ukrainian blood. This was not instigated from Russia. This was initiated from the hands of the Kiev authorities themselves.


31 posted on 04/13/2014 8:09:09 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: kronos77
Seems that there is popular uprising against Kiev regime.

This video shows takeover of local building by old lady Afghan Vets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdd5LX2T69U&feature=youtu.be

Potemkin protesters.

32 posted on 04/13/2014 8:12:10 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: kronos77

Ukraine, a country that got free gas from Russia for years and now whine when it’s cut off.

Ukraine, a country that reneged on two IMF agreements.

Plenty of different presidents during that time. This is a cultural issue that is about Ukraine.


33 posted on 04/13/2014 9:27:25 AM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: goldstategop

Yeah, and pay no attention to those spetsnaz in Ukraine, right?


34 posted on 04/13/2014 9:49:53 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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