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How Hobby Lobby Will Hurt Conservatives (Barf Alert!)
Townhall.com ^ | March 27, 2014 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 03/27/2014 7:06:51 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 03/27/2014 7:06:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
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I think that I resolved the eternal question, “would you rather be right or would you rather be popular”? in about the eighth grade. I’d rather never again win an election rather than compromise my values and principles.

If I were to do that I’d just be another dhimmicrat.


2 posted on 03/27/2014 7:11:34 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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After all, they have found before that getting your way does not always mean advancing your cause.

hell's bells! make your pronouns agree!

3 posted on 03/27/2014 7:14:01 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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The Guttmacher Institute reports that more than 99 percent of women aged 15-44 who have ever had sex have used at least one type of contraception. Conservatives probably can't antagonize this entire group, but you have to give them credit for trying.

But why does your employer need to pay for it? Should your employer be required to pay for your vitamins and running shoes, too? How about your meals?

4 posted on 03/27/2014 7:15:25 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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6 by Court Decision

California* (June 28, 2013), Connecticut (Nov. 12, 2008), Iowa (Apr. 24, 2009), Massachusetts (May 17, 2004), New Jersey (Oct. 21, 2013), New Mexico (Dec. 19, 2013)

8 by State Legislature

Delaware (July 1, 2013), Hawaii (Dec. 2, 2013), Illinois (law will take effect June 1, 2014), Minnesota (Aug. 1, 2013), New Hampshire (Jan. 1, 2010), New York (July 24, 2011), Rhode Island (Aug. 1, 2013), Vermont (Sep. 1, 2009)

3 by Popular Vote

Maine (Dec. 29, 2012), Maryland (Jan. 1, 2013), Washington (Dec. 9, 2012)

5 posted on 03/27/2014 7:16:40 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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it will be a big victory for religious conservatives

Who cares about a victory for religious conservatives? I see it as a victory for individual liberty. Freedom of association. You know - those things we hope everyone gets to enjoy.
6 posted on 03/27/2014 7:16:51 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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It’s sad townhall would publish such anti Christian arguments.


7 posted on 03/27/2014 7:17:38 AM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent / Cruz 2016)
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Quite a leap of logic.

I stand with Hobby Lobby NOT because I oppose birth control (I don't), but because I SUPPORT their freedom to do whatever THEY like with THEIR business.

IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

8 posted on 03/27/2014 7:17:51 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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After all, they have found before that getting your way does not always mean advancing your cause. Sometimes winning is a recipe for defeat.

This guy has a promising career with the RNC.

9 posted on 03/27/2014 7:23:04 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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But most people who support same-sex marriage don't think they are under the influence of Satan.

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding
10 posted on 03/27/2014 7:23:05 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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This nonsense made Townhall?


11 posted on 03/27/2014 7:24:53 AM PDT by darkangel82
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Support freedom of conscience or be seen as bigots! What a choice!


12 posted on 03/27/2014 7:25:39 AM PDT by Viennacon
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If religious opposition to same-sex marriage isn't enough to turn off voters, religious opposition to contraception should be. The Hobby Lobby case promises to spread the news that many conservative Christians and Republicans take a dim view of birth control.

Propaganda straight from the voice of the gOpE spokesperson TokyoRove. The case has NOTHING to do with homosexuality; it's simply thrown into the article for more hysterics from the squishy moderates who run from all social issues. The Hobby Lobby case, in addition to being about the foundational First Amendment right to Religious Freedom, is only about the four required forms of birth control which can cause an abortion …

It's a question that cuts to the core of Sebelius v. Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood Specialties v. Sebelius, two consolidated cases over whether the government can force a private business to provide “preventive care” that includes 24 forms of birth control, four of which can cause an abortion.

The Christian families who own the two companies in these cases believe that life begins at conception. Yet violating the mandate from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) carries an annual penalty of $36,500 per employee. The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty and the Alliance Defending Freedom have taken these two cases (out of roughly 100 lawsuits filed against this mandate) all the way to the Supreme Court, arguing the regulation violates both the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) and the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

13 posted on 03/27/2014 7:28:44 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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On the contrary. I do hope they win this but if they go under, so do thousands of jobs. They won’t be too popular if that happens.


14 posted on 03/27/2014 7:29:59 AM PDT by jersey117
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The democrats won’t be too popular, that is.


15 posted on 03/27/2014 7:30:58 AM PDT by jersey117
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If employers are allowed to refuse to provide coverage that pays for certain types of contraception...

Abortifacient pills aren't contraception pills.

Astonishingly dishonest journalism.

16 posted on 03/27/2014 7:31:28 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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They need to put this Chapman guy on staff at National Review. He and Jason Steorts can be Best Buddies and take turns writing attacks on Mark Steyn.


17 posted on 03/27/2014 7:44:19 AM PDT by madprof98
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“The rise of support for gay matrimony”

Pardon me, but I don’t remember any election on this point? A well organized group of perverts terrorized weak-kneed companies and politicians into caving, but that hardly represents a ‘rise.’

Bet the supporters would never allow this to come to a popular vote.

And oh by the way, liberal and other scum have been very successful into making this issue into a ‘Bible versus perverts’ thing. It is not. You don’t require either the Bible or God to know what sick and perverted is.

And if tomorrow a missing book of the Bible were found that said homosexuality is OK, there are millions of around that are still going to say, “no it is not - it is still sick and perverted!”


18 posted on 03/27/2014 7:50:20 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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Mostly, this is NOT about contraception, forcibly paid for by me, your employer!

This is argument is about whether I, as your employer, must be forced by law to pay for drugs whose sole purpose is to produce an abortion of your baby!

Folks this isn't about me, as an employer, paying for acne, diabetes, high blood pressure, life saving heart drugs, or me, as an employer, by force of law created by the Obama Administration and one political party only, being forced to pay for drugs whose sole purpose is to kill the babies of my employees.

Do I, as an employer, have the moral right to refuse to participate in the premeditated murder of the unborn or must I choose between participating in the murder of innocent unborn babies or shutting down a business that provides for the livelihood of thousands of people?

19 posted on 03/27/2014 7:55:51 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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Unrepentant homosexuality is a sin. The Bible is quite clear on that, so any Christian who claims otherwise is simply wrong. This doesn’t mean homosexual offenders can’t repent. The Bible is quite clear on that, too. Homosexuality can be forgiven just like adultery, lying, stealing, and other sin, but one has to #1 accept that these are evil things to do and #2 repent of doing them.

So the author of this ridiculous article thinks the above opinion might make me unpopular. Maybe I’m one of those right wing Christians who actually believes God’s revealed Word. Guess what? There’s no such thing as right or left Christians. A Christian, by definition, must believe and follow what Jesus and the apostles revealed to us. If one doesn’t follow Jesus, one cannot be a Christian.

The author also makes the equally ridiculous claim that Christians oppose contraception. Some Christians do, but most don’t. The author has wrongly characterized the situation. It isn’t about taking birth control away from women, i.e. the so-called War on Women.

The conservative opposition to mandated “free” birth control revolves around two main issues. The first involves using law to force people to violate sincerely held religious views. The second has nothing to do with religion. It’s about using law to force businesses to pay for “free” contraception as a price of doing business.


20 posted on 03/27/2014 7:58:17 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional "rights" cherished by Democrats.)
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