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Electric cars can go only half as far in freezing weather, AAA finds
LA Times ^ | March 20, 2014 | Jerry Hirsch

Posted on 03/20/2014 1:14:44 PM PDT by Ben Mugged

Edited on 03/20/2014 1:16:14 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Testing by AAA has found that how far an electric vehicle can travel on one charge varies widely depending on the weather. Frigid temperatures can reduce that distance by 57%.

The research is important to the Automobile Club of Southern California because it maintains mobile recharging trucks for people who misjudge how far they can go in their electric car.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: electriccars; globalwarming
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To: equaviator

Solar panels keep ‘em charged ya know.


21 posted on 03/20/2014 1:29:41 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: mazda77
Is there not one engineer or even a technician of any capacity at the AAA that could have warned them about their impending public embarrassment? Even Ray Charles saw that one coming!

Well, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. It's not as if AAA could have figured out that they get more calls in the winter for cars with dead batteries that won't start than they do in the summer.

22 posted on 03/20/2014 1:31:34 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Beagle8U

Also they apparently used a low temperature of 20F. I suspect -20F would drop performance a good deal farther.

Back a year or so ago I tried to do some research on cold weather performance of battery-powered cars. My concern was based on personal experience using various battery-operated equipment in cold weather. Sometimes -30. Lots of batteries or equipment won’t operate at all in cold enough weather. Apparently voltage produced goes down. In others performance drops way off and in all battery life goes WAY down.

Surprisingly difficult to find into on electric cars in cold weather, though. Apparently most info is posted by proponents and they don’t want to post anything negative.


23 posted on 03/20/2014 1:32:46 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Ben Mugged

“Global warming” will fix that. Problem solved. :)


24 posted on 03/20/2014 1:33:36 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: NEMDF
They don’t have to worry about getting the Volt to the office or factory every day.

The Volt has a gasoline engine. It is the drivers of pure electric vehicles that need to worry.

25 posted on 03/20/2014 1:33:44 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: equaviator

LOL. Plutonium ones, specifically, radioisotope thermoelectric generators.


26 posted on 03/20/2014 1:35:07 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: mazda77

As I’ve said before my wife was at GM I know in the case of that rolling turd The Volt, Obama’s goons forced it out the door years before it was ready. All the specs are bogus. The range was figured with no lights, no heat, no air, no rain or snow. A fraud just like every thing else that touches Obummer.


27 posted on 03/20/2014 1:38:52 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Constitution Day

Nothing is too good for The Planet!


28 posted on 03/20/2014 1:41:01 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: MrB

“Regenerative braking” is what I hear bandied about to increase range.
Makes me laugh.


29 posted on 03/20/2014 1:42:09 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Ben Mugged

Yet Elon Musk is on the cover of New York based business publications as some kind of saint.

But they don’t celebrate the guys who are doubling our gas/oil output and saving the world from a depression.


30 posted on 03/20/2014 1:44:12 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Darksheare

The ROI on that probably isn’t worth it, but it works.

Instead of using friction breaking exclusively, those cars use the drag of a generator to assist in slowing the car.

Yeah, it recharges the battery from the brakes, but for all the mechanisms involved, your “cost per joule” has to be prohibitive.


31 posted on 03/20/2014 1:44:43 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: equaviator

You’ve got that right! Heh!


32 posted on 03/20/2014 1:45:15 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: MrB

Very prohibitive.
Any constant magnetic field would add drag that the motors have to overcome.
Which costs more power.


33 posted on 03/20/2014 1:46:13 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: TurboZamboni
And if you turn off all accessories.

From an old "worst car ever" list, one of the touted pluses of the Yugo was a heated rear window to keep your hands warm while you push it.

I believe the heated rear window is an accessory.

+1 for the Yugo over electrics.

34 posted on 03/20/2014 1:46:57 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Ben Mugged

Duh.


35 posted on 03/20/2014 1:47:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: mazda77

Solar panels keep ‘em charged ya know.

only if the snow is cleared off and don’t park in the shade


36 posted on 03/20/2014 1:47:27 PM PDT by bikerman
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To: Ben Mugged

And they just figured this out?


37 posted on 03/20/2014 1:47:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Ben Mugged

38 posted on 03/20/2014 1:48:31 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Ben Mugged
mobile recharging trucks

I wonder how long it takes a recharging trucks to recharge a battery?

39 posted on 03/20/2014 1:48:49 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: Ben Mugged
Meanwhile.....

Electric Vehicle Battery Subsidy Failures Evident Early On Former Gov. Granholm defends her policies in Detroit Free Press article

The state and federal government awarded more than $1.4 billion in tax credits and direct subsidies to four companies — A123 Systems, Dow Kokam, Johnson Controls and L.G. Chem. Nearly $600 million in federal money alone was spent. Three of the companies went bankrupt and all have missed their job projections by a long shot.

About 6,826 jobs were predicted, according to information in the Free Press article. The four companies have about 575 total employees today, less than a tenth of what was projected.

40 posted on 03/20/2014 1:52:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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