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NYPD Under No Obligation To Protect Citizens
Personal Liberty Digest ^ | March 5,2014 | Bob Livingston

Posted on 03/05/2014 8:42:36 AM PST by Teotwawki

New York City policemen are under no obligation to protect the city’s denizens from harm. So says the city in response to a lawsuit by a man who was attacked on the subway by a man with a knife. Joseph Lozito said police officers Terrance Howell and Tamara Taylor, who were on the subway at the same time, ignored Maksim Gelman as he stormed about the subway in a drug-fueled rage. They even dismissed other passengers who tried to warn them about Gelman’s actions. Lozito identified Gelman as the man who approached him telling him he was going to die before plunging a knife into Lozito’s face. Lozito wrestled Gelman to the ground — enduring multiple stab wounds to the back of the head while doing so — and held him until Howell tapped him on the shoulder and told him to get up. Howell claims — and the city is backing him — that it was he who subdued Gelman. Lozito sued the city saying the officers’ lack of action was to blame for the attack. The city is refusing to settle on the grounds that its officers had no duty to protect train passengers, but “that doesn’t detract from the Police Department’s public safety mission.” It is cliché to say that when seconds count, police are only minutes away. But it appears it doesn’t matter whether police are near or far. In an increasing number of cases, it’s obvious police care more about their own safety than the public they claim they want “to protect and serve.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: confrontationwatch; donutwatch; feos; nypd; obligation; protect
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Without a doubt, the Police Department's "public safety mission" is to protect their public employees, not private citizens.
1 posted on 03/05/2014 8:42:36 AM PST by Teotwawki
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To: Teotwawki

Im off to find a verbatin reading of the OATH that NYPD lives by!

Thank you


2 posted on 03/05/2014 8:44:29 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: Teotwawki

In a similar fashion, citizens are not obligated to protect police when they are in trouble, either.


3 posted on 03/05/2014 8:44:58 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Teotwawki
But don't you dare get any silly ideas about defending yourself.
4 posted on 03/05/2014 8:45:33 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: Teotwawki

And don’t you dare to defend yourself either.

Signed,

Warren Wilhelm DeBlazio


5 posted on 03/05/2014 8:46:07 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Teotwawki

“To Serve and Protect”: what happened there New York the City PD?


6 posted on 03/05/2014 8:46:35 AM PST by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Teotwawki

It is NYC...... It was an American city America


7 posted on 03/05/2014 8:46:46 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Teotwawki

So the cops don’t have an obligation to protect you...and you can’t have a gun to protect yourself... and we are wondering why the predatory class is in the driver’s seat?


8 posted on 03/05/2014 8:47:42 AM PST by ameribbean expat
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To: Teotwawki
"To protect our pensions and to serve our unions."

The cops are not on our side, folks.

9 posted on 03/05/2014 8:47:42 AM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Broi)
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To: Teotwawki
No obligation? Do they *really* think that a jury will go along with that claim? My God...the closest I've ever been to attending law school is having walked past Harvard Law School on a number of occasions but I know not to use *that* as a defense against such a lawsuit.
10 posted on 03/05/2014 8:49:21 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Teotwawki
Will Smith once observed that “NYPD” stands for “knock your punk a$$ down”.
11 posted on 03/05/2014 8:50:46 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: ameribbean expat
So the cops don’t have an obligation to protect you...and you can’t have a gun to protect yourself...

On my many rides on the NYC subway system I've seen (more than a few times) an official notice from the city that it's illegal to posses a toy gun that looks like a real one.I kid you not!

12 posted on 03/05/2014 8:53:35 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Teotwawki
NYPD Under No Obligation To Protect Citizens

Agreed, their obligation is to collect revenue by any means necessary, take bribes, steal property and kill anyone they please.

13 posted on 03/05/2014 8:55:37 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Teotwawki

In this premise, cities would be better off allowing those that want to be, be armed.
Even if you ‘restrict’ to those that are ‘worthy’ of it due to past indiscretions etc.

Let that happen and
the ‘bad guys’ can kill each other off (they are doing that now).
you can FIRE all police other than small, investigative units, to solve crimes AFTER they are committed. (listen to them and they will tell you that their job is to ‘solve’ crimes and their presence works as a deterrent).
In this case, it is hard to say their presence ‘deters’ crime as the officers involved did NOTHING (according to story).

We don’t know what RESTRICTIONS are put on the officers to actually STOP and talk to someone acting ‘strange’.

How many of the people now ‘complaining’ the Police did nothing would have been ‘screaming’ the Police were using excessive force for stopping and questioning that ‘obviously sick man(woman)’ that was acting strangely?

Of course some of the more ‘Casper Milquetoast’ types among the present LEO’s probably interpret NO STOP AND FRISK to mean NO STOP and/or NO FRISK.


14 posted on 03/05/2014 8:56:54 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --In CNNs (feeble) mind, EVERYONE that doesnt ask for more Kool-Aid is bullying BO)
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To: Teotwawki

Hey - the Farce Enlawment orifices (FEOs) went home safe to their families that night...


15 posted on 03/05/2014 8:58:14 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Navy Patriot

On their days off.Ride around extorting money from travelers .


16 posted on 03/05/2014 8:58:48 AM PST by Therapsid
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To: clintonh8r
"To protect our pensions
and to serve our unions."
maybe that should be marked/stenciled on the NYPD cars, instead of "to protect our citizens.."
if i were in NYC, I would petition the parasitic gov't. to dissolve the City DA's office
and maybe some other Departments.

17 posted on 03/05/2014 9:05:17 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Teotwawki

The police are there to:

-Protect their institution and the governmental body that funds them.

-To generate revenue for that governmental body.

-To enforce the laws that governmental body deems upon its people.

Protecting someone in the course of the above is incidental and at the officers’ discretion.


18 posted on 03/05/2014 9:07:53 AM PST by FAA
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To: Teotwawki; All

This incident is an example why the Founding States had made the 2nd Amendment. Instead of making third-party police protection a right, the Founders had made the 2nd Amendment to clarify that it is up to individual citizens to protect themselves by bearing arms.


19 posted on 03/05/2014 9:13:21 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Teotwawki

One word: Litigation


20 posted on 03/05/2014 9:14:41 AM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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