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Democrats Try Wooing Ones Who Got Away: White Men
New York Times ^ | March 2, 2014 | JACKIE CALMES

Posted on 03/03/2014 8:21:13 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

"..................What discourages Democrats is that men’s attitudes shaped over generations — through debates over civil rights, anti-Communism, Vietnam, feminism, gun control and dislocations from lost manufacturing jobs and stagnant wages in a global economy — are not easily altered.

“Democrats are for a bunch of freeloaders in this world as far as I’m concerned,” said Gari Day, 63, an Avis bus driver from suburban Detroit. “Republicans make you work for your money, and try to let you keep it.”

Michael Bunce, 48, buying parts at a Lowe’s in Southfield, Mich., first ascribed his Republican bias to fiscal matters, but quickly turned to social issues like gay rights. “I don’t see why that’s at the top of our priority list,” he said. “But you say that out in the open, and people are all over your back.”.............

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; employment; jobs; men; michigan; minimumwage; reagandemocrats; whitemen
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To: usual suspect

absolutely!


21 posted on 03/03/2014 9:01:52 AM PST by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

the war against white men has taken it’s toll, so the ones that Dems can grab are men who suffer from white guilt due to female centric public education.


22 posted on 03/03/2014 9:04:41 AM PST by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Since the Dems have made themselves the party of LGBT, radical feminists, whacko Greens, and other assorted self-identifying victim groups, good luck with that!


23 posted on 03/03/2014 9:04:57 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Red Badger; Obadiah

Can someone explain how so many Catholics support the party of unrestricted abortion, up to partial-birth abortion? It doesn’t make sense.... But then again, not much of lib thinking does.


24 posted on 03/03/2014 9:09:57 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hey Democrats, go ahead and ‘woo’ me all you want with your queer agenda, it ain’t gonna work.


25 posted on 03/03/2014 9:12:24 AM PST by lesko
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To: Red Badger

A fist full of food-stamps will convert hard working Hispanics into blubbering gay-pride cheering welfare leeches just like it did Blacks!


26 posted on 03/03/2014 9:36:36 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

F-Em, it is against the interests of white men (other than feminized semi-urban dopes) to vote for the DEMOCRAT party!


27 posted on 03/03/2014 9:40:00 AM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: Rummyfan

“Can someone explain how so many Catholics support the party of unrestricted abortion, up to partial-birth abortion? It doesn’t make sense.... But then again, not much of lib thinking does.”

The same way that American Jews would vote for Hitler if you stuck a ‘D’ after his name!

Their God is socialism, the rest is just window dressing!


28 posted on 03/03/2014 9:42:50 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It's going to take a little more than a new marketing approach. I understand why certain Dems are puzzled at the demographics: it's because they're so used to their ideology that they can't imagine it to be offensive to any but retrograde knuckle-dragging (insert stock phrases here) Neanderthals. They mean it to be offensive, it energizes the resentment and envy that drives class antagonisms.

I think it's irreparable at this point, certainly so long as 0bama and his coterie of race-baiters is in office, or in power within the Democrat party. To drop or dilute the hate will be to lose their base. They're stuck: it's all hostility all the time or they're just not radical enough for the party.

The target has been the one remaining safe one, the one that never fights back: white males who believe in free speech and find to their dismay that the belief is not reciprocated, who believe in equal rights and find that their opponents insist on special rights for special people, who believe in freedom of association and free markets and find that their opponents demand an iron control of both, who believe in live-and-let-live and find that their opponents intend to do nothing of the sort. There's a fundamental ideological break there, and dazzling marketing campaign with some swell slogans isn't going to bridge the gap.

The irony is that once these attitudes were considered liberal ones, not conservative, which gives the observer an idea of just how much the Democrat party is foundering in toxic ideology. Class warriors must have class enemies, their entire political dynamic demands it. We're not going to see any olive branches soon unless they're concealing a pair of handcuffs.

29 posted on 03/03/2014 9:43:03 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Rummyfan
My observation is that many, many people call themselves Catholics as a form of some vague identification. As in, they had some Catholic association as a child but basically not much since. Hence they call themselves Catholic, but that's about the only real connection, just a label they maintain, and it helps them feel like they have a connection to something spiritual, although they are in fact far from it.

Also, many Catholics are heavy into the “justice” thing, which many Catholic leaders have twisted to mean that taxpayers have to shell out an infinite amount to take care of those less fortunate. Long gone are the days where Catholics did not rely on the government as the means to institute this “justice” and the Catholics themselves organized private efforts to assist the poor.

Most hospitals in this country were started by Catholic organizations long before the government got their meat hooks into things. As I said, now Catholic leaders have pushed congregations into believing that it's the governments job to care for the poor and if they don't support this then they're not good, compassionate Catholics, as if taking other people's money under compulsion is, itself, somehow just.

Finally, many Catholics have allowed themselves to be deceived into the idea that abortion is a woman's right. Hence, you have people like Nancy Pelosi who professes to be a Catholic yet call abortion “sacred” and holds that the act of homosexuality is not sin.

The Catholic church has been overcome by deception and has bought into the lie. That's why they vote Democrat.

30 posted on 03/03/2014 9:45:04 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: InterceptPoint
We started out as a country with strong principles and a basically European culture. That is disappearing fast.

Sorry to inform you, but the European culture, principles and work ethic of the late 50's and early 60's has already disappeared.

31 posted on 03/03/2014 10:05:33 AM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: winner3000

More importantly, for over a decade the Democrat party has used white males as the bogey man so that they would ingratiate themselves to non-whites and receive their vote at the accepted cost of the vote of white males. Mission accomplished. That’s what’s not easily altered.


End of thread...What else can be said?....Nice post.


32 posted on 03/03/2014 10:14:39 AM PST by chasio649
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is the “magic words” concept again.

fool the voter by using the right set of words to lie about the truth.

Note democrats are not changing policy.

they are the the anti-male, pro-homosexual, anti-father, anti-contitution, pro-slavery, pro-big communist party.


33 posted on 03/03/2014 11:30:58 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Rummyfan

as long as there are women who are republican/conservative by marriage only, they will still think it is dandy their hair dresser fancy boy can “marry’ some other male.


34 posted on 03/03/2014 11:32:53 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: InterceptPoint; Cincinatus' Wife; Rummyfan
Democrats Try Wooing Ones Who Got Away: White Men

White male - 5 Years A Slave... and counting.

35 posted on 03/03/2014 11:38:04 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: bkopto
Sorry to inform you, but the European culture, principles and work ethic of the late 50's and early 60's has already disappeared.

No doubt. And for the same reasons that are operating here. Liberal politicians are willing and unfortunately able to sacrifice principles and ethics to ensure their own reelection.

But even if I agree with you on the decline in European values since the 50's I would argue that it was those values that provided for the birth of the greatest of all civilizations. And we are choosing to throw those values in the trash. The human race will pay a bitter price for that error.

36 posted on 03/03/2014 3:08:21 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wise White Men are high information voters who turn out in midterms.

The hipsters turn out to keep a black celebrity as president.

I would hope that a wise White man with the richness of his occupational experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a woman or minority who hasn’t lived that life.


37 posted on 03/03/2014 3:39:52 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: MaxMax

The entire Black vote confuses me. I’d be banned for good from this and other sites if I truly gave my reasons as to why they vote Dem now.

But since everything these days is called racist I will at least say if you buy off someone long enough they’ll forget the hell you put them through.

So the crazy Islamist should stop trying to kill us and start sending us all big checks. Seems to work for some.


38 posted on 03/03/2014 3:45:26 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: Rummyfan

Or why Jewish Americans support the party of anti-semites and ‘Palestine’ believers?


39 posted on 03/03/2014 3:46:22 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: MaxMax

“Even the Black Male Dem vote confuses me.”
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Stockholm syndrome.


40 posted on 03/03/2014 5:30:11 PM PST by RipSawyer
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