Posted on 02/10/2014 3:54:07 PM PST by iowamark
That's the Constitution.
His mother was an adult American citizen.
Therefore, her son is an American citizen at birth.
Period. Though some will insist otherwise, there is no issue about this.
Why bother? It's not like you guys or the progressives actually believe in the damned thing. That's up there with 'I've Abandoned Free Market Principles to Save the Free Market System'
Stanley Ann Dunham was only 18 at the time of Barack's birth. At the time, one did not reach their majority until the age of 21 -- so she was not legally an "adult".
She could not, therefore, confer citizenship upon her child if he had been born in a foreign country.
Here’s the basis for my concern and my question.
There is a 50-page report prepared for lawmakers by the Congressional Research on this topic
The relevant and key paragraph in that paper reads this way:
“The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term “natural born” citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “by birth” or “at birth,” either by being born “in” the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship “at birth.”
It does not specifically deal with the issue of someone born outside the United States to one American parent. A fine point perhaps but questions of law often turn on just such fine points.
My minor children had US Passports indicating their US citizenship.
See my response #25
See response #25
and your minor children, I can tell from here, are more qualified to run this country than are either Obama and or that Hillary Benghazi Clinton.
So lets just get behind Cruz who understands the laws in this country enough to have won nine Supreme Court cases, has enough decency to be married to a lady, and brings his legal immigrant father out in public with him, and who knows the problems we face and has solutions
Anyone disputing his eligibility wants faire
Or they can ask the constitutional experts including mark Levin who have been down this path or they can go raise this point with the current president who exhibits no respect for the laws language culture and borders of this country and who grew up in Indonesia and has no other past nor family
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I love Ted Cruz too, and he is one of the few in Washington I still respect. However, he is not a natural born citizen which is what the Constitution requires. A natural born citizen is one born with unquestionable and non-loyalty conflicting citizenship. His mother was American, and his father was a Cuban citizen at the time of his birth. He is an American citizen, but not a natural born citizen. The founders wanted someone with no loyalty to another country. Both parents had to be US citizens in order to qualify to be president.
By Obama’s own words in ‘Dreams from my Father’, he is not a natural born citizen as his father was Kenyan at the time of his birth (allegedly.) He is not eligible to be president, but since no one has any backbone in Washington, there he stays.
i had the same honest question, but i did find SoConPubbie's response helpful... and i did not notice anger...
Good move for Cruz. His recent pheasant shooting trip with the great Steve King got him some bonus points do. He’d perform well in Iowa.
Ted Cruz ping...
So, your question concerns the "s"?
That's it?
I see you totally ignored the first paragraph of my statement, where I said that our Constitution has effectively been overthrown.
For all intents and purposes, we don't have a constitutional republic any longer. We can all sit here insisting that the government abide by the Constitution's prescriptions, but really.....we've been barking at the moon for decades now, and what has it gotten us? Zilch.
I want our country's government restored to its constitutional limits as much as the next guy, but we're not going to accomplish it by doing the same things we've been doing for so long. No, it's time we recognized that war is being made against us, and respond in kind.
Part of that response involves putting people into high office who can at least slow down the rapid and sure transformation of our country into a de facto Socialist dictatorship. People like Ted Cruz, who is eminently qualified to lead us back to the Framers' America.
I'll say it again -- the Constitution has, for all intents and purposes, been suspended. It's going to take an active war on several fronts to wrest control back from the Communists, and restore it to its rightful dominance.
Oh I didn’t ignore it. That stuff makes it’s own gravy. Yeah, he’s qualified and eligible. Just like the clown in their now. So what other parts of the constitution should ol’ ted ignore while he’s “restoring” it?
Check out the leftist comments under the Compost article. The strong negative feelings toward Ted speak to their concern.
It's clear that I'm not getting through. I'll try again.
In our current political system, the Constitution is largely little more than a historical relic. Yes, we who love and revere that document have small wins here and there when we see it being followed by courts or the Congress, but those wins are rare, and mostly don't affect how government operates from day to day on the federal level.
It's what we patriots and conservatives bitterly complain about on this forum year in and year out.
I'm trying to look at where we are as a country, and what we have to do to restore our American system, with logic and reason. In my estimation, we've lost the republic. It is no more. Therefore, we're not in a dissimilar place as the Founding Generation was when they chose to fight King George III for their independence.
In a way, we have to take the same steps as they did to establish a constitutional republic, for it truly does not exist on this continent at this time.
I'd love to think that we can still win by working within the civil system the Framers left to us, but that system is now FUBAR. It's time we stopped trying to work within a system that has been intentionally overthrown, and look to the Declaration for guidance. Like I said, we're in a war, but only one side is fighting. We're just about at a point where we've got to start all over from scratch to rebuild that which has been burnt to the ground.
This is why I've had to re-examine my potential support for Ted Cruz, should he decide to run for President. He's the type of person who has the requisite love of country, courage, smarts, and sheer determination to get the job done.
I haven't yet concluded that he's ineligible per the Constitution, so please don't make that assumption. It's only that there is a question in some people's minds, so I'm merely discussing it from that perspective.
I didn’t write the law and I don’t haven’t way to keep a Clinton-appointed judge from ruling on it. Tell me the Holder justice department wouldn’t dream of dropping that bomb in, oh say, October 2016.
They'll do anything and everything they can to elect a Democrat. Of course.
So, should we make our decisions on the basis of what we understand to be fact, truth or rectitude...or should we make them on the basis of what the left will accept?
Ted Cruz was born an American citizen. And he was registered in the American consul's office in Calgary, Alta accordingly.
According to Canadian law, Cruz was born a Canadian citizen, as well -- just as a child born of Canadian parents in Great Falls, MT would be born an American citizen. But that has no relevance whatsoever under American citizenship law -- until such time as Cruz reached his majority and could've formally opted for Canadian citizenship. But he did not, so that issue is moot.
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