Posted on 01/23/2014 12:59:18 PM PST by Jacquerie
Attention COS patriots: Georgia needs your help! Tomorrow, January 24, at 9:30am the state senate Rules Committee will hold a hearing to discuss the COS application. This is a huge step towards passing the application in Georgia, and we need to show the committee we mean business.
So here’s what you can do:
If you live in Georgia, go to the meeting! It will be held at the Georgia State Capitol in hearing room #450. We need to pack the room so the senators know how many Georgians support a Convention of States.
If you can’t make it to Atlanta, you can still help. Send an email voicing your support to info@conventionofstates.com. You can type your own or simply use the sample letter below:
Hello,
My name is [Your Name], and I support the Georgia State Senate resolution (SR 736) to apply for a Convention of States.
A Convention of States is the last, best chance to curb the abuses of the federal government and force Congress to be fiscally responsible. The Founder’s included the Convention of States option in Article V for precisely the situation in which we find ourselves today. It’s our responsibility to use the tool the Founders gave us to limit the federal government’s power and jurisdiction.
Georgia was the fourth state to ratify the Constitution—I want Georgia to be the first state to save it.
Sincerely,
[Your Name]
We’ll give your letters to our team in Georgia, and they’ll print them out and bring them to the hearing. We want a huge stack of letters, so get yours in ASAP.
Don’t live in Georgia but want to help? No problem. You can still send us your letters voicing your support for the Georgia resolution. With letters from folks across the country, we can show the Georgia state senators this movement has nationwide support!
Sending an email takes five minutes, but those five minutes will bring us one step closer to preserving liberty in our country. Thanks for standing with us!
Last count was 30+...
I’d have to look again...
Indiana is leading the way. They have already passed state laws that deal with their delegates. I know this is a concern for most...
Check the Indiana link I posted earlier...
GA Freepers... Get off you a$$ and call or show up!
My rep has me saved in his cell phone... lol
He is tired of hearing from me about GA participating in the COS...
i searched for texas and COS and didn’t come up with anything. I would hope my state is doing it’s part
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The amendatory process under Article V consists of three steps: Proposal, Disposal, and Ratification.
Proposal:
There are two ways to propose an amendment to the Constitution.
Article V gives Congress and an Amendments Convention exactly the same power to propose amendments, no more and no less.
Disposal:
Once Congress, or an Amendments Convention, proposes amendments, Congress must decide whether the states will ratify by the:
The State Ratifying Convention Method has only been used twice: once to ratify the Constitution, and once to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition.
Ratification:
Depending upon which ratification method is chosen by Congress, either the state legislatures vote up-or-down on the proposed amendment, or the voters elect a state ratifying convention to vote up-or-down. If three-quarters of the states vote to ratify, the amendment becomes part of the Constitution.
Forbidden Subjects:
Article V contains two explicitly forbidden subjects and one implicitly forbidden subject.
Explicitly forbidden:
Implicity forbidden:
I have two reference works for those interested.
The first is from the American Legislative Exchange Council, a conservative pro-business group. This document has been sent to every state legislator in the country.
Proposing Constitutional Amendments by a Convention of the States: A Handbook for State Lawmakers
The second is a 1973 report from the American Bar Association attempting to identify gray areas in the amendatory process to include an Amendments Convention. It represents the view of the ruling class of 40 years ago. While I dislike some of their conclusions, they have laid out the precedents that may justify those conclusions. What I respect is the comprehensive job they did in locating all the gray areas. They went so far as to identify a gray area that didn't pop up until the Equal Rights Amendment crashed and burned a decade later. Even if you find yourself in disagreement with their vision, it's worth reading to see the view of the ruling class toward the process.
Report of the ABA Special Constitutional Convention Study Committee
A Convention at this point would result in a Bill of Rights with nothing between the first and third amendments.
So! Are you in or not?!?
I’m in.
We hang together or we hang separately.
Lets do this thang! HOOYA!
Is it your honest opinion that three-fourths of the states (38) would ratify such an amendment?
You can enroll there as a volunteer or for a leadership position.
“Implicitly forbidden:
Throwing out the Constitution of 1787 and replacing it with a new document. Article V only authorizes “a convention for proposing amendments to this Constitution”; therefore, the Constitution of 1787 is locked in place forever. Congress and an Amendments Convention have exactly the same Proposal power; therefore, neither Congress nor an Amendments Convention can start over. Both bodies can only propose amendments.”
Glad that is in their.
Thanks for being open minded and educating yourself... The MORE you read and learn about “An Article V Convention for the Proposing of Amendments” the more you’ll see the brilliance the founders had to include it...
Also, I hope this information dispels some of the MISINFORMATION about a “con-con” or a “runaway” convention... NOTHING the COS proposes would bind any other state and amend the Constitution unless 38 states say yes...
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So you are history’s judge now? Your choice of Gaff wasn’t an accident. This is the reason I and others are skeptical.
The fact is your arguments are “trust me” and your assurances don’t mean anything substantive. An untried process with an idealistic view that isn’t open to questioning. I suppose that’s how you guys will run the convention too, huh.
No thanks.
I understand what you want, so do I. My fear is that with monolithic liberal media and activist judges handing down politically motivate rulings, such as injunctions, they will rig the game against us. Be prepared to use force to defeat evil.
Political regulator folks who are sincere about that would have their commie state and local governments give up the federal funding first.
What is your solution?
Did you even read the info or listen to the interview with Indiana State Senator David Long at post #22? It explains how/why this Convention of States (NOT a Constitutional Convention) will be well organized. It’s a methodical process that won’t allow the left to hijack this process.
Article V empowers the states to go around the uniparty in Washington.
Today, Obama said once again he would go around congress if he felt like it.
You don't get amendments. You get amendment proposals.
You still need the states to ratify them. Good luck getting 38 states to ratify gay marriage.
"Illegal aliens" is not an amendment, it is a current state. One can pass a law to legalize them, but I fail to see how any kind of amendment can be aimed at something ambiguous as "legalizing illegal aliens." Once the current population of illegal aliens is legalized, what would the amendment do? Would this amendment remove any illegality for all time? Would this amendment say that anyone who enters the United States for any reason instantly becomes a citizen? Anyone who overstays a visa is not here illegally? There is no longer a reason to get a visa because the United States is now borderless? Good luck getting 38 states to pass that kind of amendment, too.
-PJ
But for that same reason it is also dead certain that a liberal take over of the convention or subsequent passage of radical amendments is impossible.
The truth is; most amendments that might be put forth from conservative states would be measured and probably get a lot of independent support. One that I've heard being talked about is that any bills proposed in congress include the names of who actually wrote the bill. Imagine what that would do for legislative transparency ...and imagine the reluctance of liberals to come forth and openly oppose it.
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