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MSNBC HOST’S RADICAL IDEA
The Blaze ^ | 17 Dec 2013 | Jason Howerton

Posted on 12/17/2013 4:19:00 PM PST by mandaladon

MSNBC HOST’S RADICAL IDEA: ‘EVERY NON-INCARCERATED ADULT CITIZEN GETS A MONTHLY CHECK FROM THE GOVERNMENT’

On Tuesday’s edition of MSNBC’s “The Cycle,” co-host Krystal Ball suggested that the United States implement a minimum guaranteed income for every “non-incarcerated adult citizen.” The enormous entitlement program would “eliminate poverty” completely, Ball claimed.

Referencing protests occurring across the globe, the MSNBC host made her pitch for a “monthly minimum income” or a “mincome.” The free government money would not only solve poverty, but it would not create deincentives to work, she claimed.

“The basic concept is simple,” she said. “Every non-incarcerated adult citizen gets a monthly check from the government. Other safety net programs are jettisoned to pay for the mincome, and poverty is eliminated.” “Now I know what you’re thinking: ‘This is some crazy left-wing utopian idea that only Marxists like Krystal Ball and Pope Francis could possibly support,’” Ball continued. She then argued that the idea “has found support on the right,” citing Reason’s Matthew Freeney who suggested giving the poor “cash.”

Ball went on to cite a study about a Canadian town in the 1970s that reportedly implemented a minimum income and “not only was poverty eliminated, but the disincentives to work has a minimal effect on productivity.”

“We tend to think of poverty, homelessness, despair as inevitable but mincome makes you realize — in a country as rich as ours — we allow those outcomes as a choice. We could decide to eliminate poverty and it wouldn’t even take a Christmas miracle,” Ball said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communism; msnbc; obama
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To: escapefromboston

You could fire all of the government administrators it takes to hand out money in all of the current welfare programs. Then you could eliminate income taxes and the IRS. Give every family in the United States.... say $75k per year. (I’d put mine in a mason jar and bury it) So.... then you could charge everyone across the board a consumption tax and be done with it all. Whatever shortage there is.... just print the money. By the time the accounting all works out I’ll be to old to care either way.


61 posted on 12/17/2013 4:49:48 PM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: mandaladon
a study about a Canadian town in the 1970s...

I'm sure that's going to scale up well for a country of 350 million people.

62 posted on 12/17/2013 4:50:10 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: Paladin2

Not a lot of fun at the beach either.


63 posted on 12/17/2013 4:50:54 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

64 posted on 12/17/2013 4:51:00 PM PST by matt1234 (Hitler blamed the Jews. Obama blames the Tea Party.)
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To: kaehurowing
If we print and distribute money to every person on the planet, we will have eliminated WORLD poverty!! Let’s stop thinking small and end poverty for once and all.

Brilliant! Why didn't we think of this ages ago?

I don't imagine there would be any "unintended consequences" of that plan.

65 posted on 12/17/2013 4:52:47 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: mandaladon

I’m tired of working for my keep. Where’s my free money?/s


66 posted on 12/17/2013 4:57:28 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: mandaladon

non-incarcerated adult citizen = Newspeak for Gubermint Slave


67 posted on 12/17/2013 4:58:24 PM PST by GraceG
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To: mandaladon

If you took all the wealth from those that have it, and gave it to those that don’t, within a few years, those that had the wealth, would have it again, and those that got the free money would be back in poverty, again.

Wealth is not static.

With some exceptions, those in poverty today either have made poor decisions in the past (or in the case of children, their parents made the poor decisions).

Money does not solve the poor decision making done by those in poverty. If you need an example look to professional athletes and those that win lotteries. Many squander millions of dollars and in a few years find themselves broke.

The road out of poverty is not easy, but can be taken by anyone willing to work hard, and not make decisions that will destroy your future (such as dropping out of school, using and or selling drugs, committing crimes, having children out of wedlock).

Until the Great Society we did not have a permanent lower class. There are some exception but for the most part people may find themselves in circumstances that they would be listed as being “poor”, but in time they rose out of that category.

I will go so far as saying the Great Society has created more poor people then anything else has.

Money (or lack of money) is not the problem, and so throwing money at it will not solve it.


68 posted on 12/17/2013 4:59:14 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: Terabitten

What I want is my money back that was spent on waste like studying The Sex Life of The Fruit Fly. All that money should be paid back to working people - to people who actually work for a living. We need a Pay Us Back drive. Make a list of all the bs grants that were given for research last year, total up the dollars, divide the total by the number of actual workers we have in this country, and send each of us a check. Pay Us Back!

Pay Us Back for all the money wasted on Obamaphones. Wasted on Obamacare. And all the other wasteful Obamascams. Pay Us Back!


69 posted on 12/17/2013 5:00:38 PM PST by abclily
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To: Right Wing Assault

If we print and distribute money to every person on the planet, we will have eliminated WORLD poverty!! Let’s stop thinking small and end poverty for once and all.

Brilliant! Why didn’t we think of this ages ago?

I don’t imagine there would be any “unintended consequences” of that plan.

Well, I would stop “working” and get a side job bartering my time and expertise for small bits of gold and silver.


70 posted on 12/17/2013 5:00:58 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Dapper 26

Marxism is great if you can use other people’s money.

Pray America is Waking


71 posted on 12/17/2013 5:01:41 PM PST by bray (Repeal Obamacare)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Until the Great Society we did not have a permanent lower class. There are some exception but for the most part people may find themselves in circumstances that they would be listed as being “poor”, but in time they rose out of that category.

We just have a “Gilded cage slave class” that replaced chains with other people’s fiat money in exchange for keeping the middle class down because the control freaks and elites live by the mantra that competition is a sin....


72 posted on 12/17/2013 5:04:15 PM PST by GraceG
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To: mandaladon

They can’t even pay out Social Security with money coming in. How is this one going to work?

Imagine all the people who will rush into this country and assume false identities.


73 posted on 12/17/2013 5:05:31 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: mandaladon

The Mainstream Marxist Media is the enemy.


74 posted on 12/17/2013 5:06:33 PM PST by bray (Repeal Obamacare)
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To: mandaladon

“co-host Krystal Ball suggested that the United States implement a minimum guaranteed income for every “non-incarcerated adult citizen.”

WOW! The stupidity of this one is staggering even for a liberal!


75 posted on 12/17/2013 5:10:49 PM PST by Batman11 (Obama is not American.. he has no clue what it is to be American.)
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To: Lazamataz
Hey, I'm all for it. The quicker America collapses, the better.

Depends on how much blithering stupidty we get rid of in the process, but that may be the only solution.

The free government money would not only solve poverty, but it would not create deincentives to work, she claimed.

o.O

It .....worked so well in the 60's. This type of stupid has to be eliminated.
76 posted on 12/17/2013 5:16:21 PM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Dapper 26

In Michigan we would like to throw in someone shoveling our snow so we can enjoy our new money.


77 posted on 12/17/2013 5:17:54 PM PST by kempster
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To: mandaladon

People with stripper names should not be advocating financial policy.


78 posted on 12/17/2013 5:18:12 PM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: BookmanTheJanitor
yep...all that money wouldn't go to drugs, booze, lottery tickets, etc. (rolling eyes)

Read about the negative income tax in my link per my previous post; I'm a huge fan of it.

Milton Freidman advocated for this, as long as all the poverty, welfare, minimum-wage, and transfer payment programs were eliminated simultaneously.

If the poor spends their subsidy on drugs, booze, and lottery tickets, that's their problem, and they wouldn't get further assistance from the government.

Romney should have made such a plan the centerpiece of his presidential campaign.

79 posted on 12/17/2013 5:24:43 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: mandaladon
RE :”EVERY NON-INCARCERATED ADULT CITIZEN GETS A MONTHLY CHECK FROM THE GOVERNMENT’.”

Something wrong with this formula

Can everyone ride in the wagon at the same time including the horses??

80 posted on 12/17/2013 5:26:52 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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