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MSNBC HOSTíS RADICAL IDEA
The Blaze ^ | 17 Dec 2013 | Jason Howerton

Posted on 12/17/2013 4:19:00 PM PST by mandaladon

MSNBC HOST’S RADICAL IDEA: ‘EVERY NON-INCARCERATED ADULT CITIZEN GETS A MONTHLY CHECK FROM THE GOVERNMENT’

On Tuesday’s edition of MSNBC’s “The Cycle,” co-host Krystal Ball suggested that the United States implement a minimum guaranteed income for every “non-incarcerated adult citizen.” The enormous entitlement program would “eliminate poverty” completely, Ball claimed.

Referencing protests occurring across the globe, the MSNBC host made her pitch for a “monthly minimum income” or a “mincome.” The free government money would not only solve poverty, but it would not create deincentives to work, she claimed.

“The basic concept is simple,” she said. “Every non-incarcerated adult citizen gets a monthly check from the government. Other safety net programs are jettisoned to pay for the mincome, and poverty is eliminated.” “Now I know what you’re thinking: ‘This is some crazy left-wing utopian idea that only Marxists like Krystal Ball and Pope Francis could possibly support,’” Ball continued. She then argued that the idea “has found support on the right,” citing Reason’s Matthew Freeney who suggested giving the poor “cash.”

Ball went on to cite a study about a Canadian town in the 1970s that reportedly implemented a minimum income and “not only was poverty eliminated, but the disincentives to work has a minimal effect on productivity.”

“We tend to think of poverty, homelessness, despair as inevitable but mincome makes you realize — in a country as rich as ours — we allow those outcomes as a choice. We could decide to eliminate poverty and it wouldn’t even take a Christmas miracle,” Ball said.

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KEYWORDS: communism; msnbc; obama
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‘EVERY NON-INCARCERATED ADULT CITIZEN GETS A MONTHLY CHECK FROM THE GOVERNMENT’...........Who says liberals aren't stupid?
1 posted on 12/17/2013 4:19:00 PM PST by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

Hey, let’s throw in a new car and golf clubs every year..........gotta do something while we wait for our checks...

Is it the water or global warming...??


2 posted on 12/17/2013 4:21:59 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: mandaladon
“We tend to think of poverty, homelessness, despair as inevitable but mincome makes you realize — in a country as rich as ours...

Our country's broke. We have to borrow money from China to pay the interest on our debt.

3 posted on 12/17/2013 4:22:23 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: mandaladon
Hey, I'm all for it.

The quicker America collapses, the better.

4 posted on 12/17/2013 4:23:00 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: GOPJ

I think Bush had to beg China to buy bonds.
Baraq just has Ben & Janet create liquidity.


5 posted on 12/17/2013 4:23:42 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: mandaladon

If we print and distribute money to every person on the planet, we will have eliminated WORLD poverty!! Let’s stop thinking small and end poverty for once and all.

[/sarc]


6 posted on 12/17/2013 4:23:55 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: mandaladon

Hey, as long as the Fed can QE as much money as is deemed prudent and sufficient, Krystal Ball’s thesis is spot on. The real question then would be: why should anybody ever report to work?
These people have manure for brains. They could grow vegetables up there.


7 posted on 12/17/2013 4:24:01 PM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU..)
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To: mandaladon

Establishment Republicans are calling up our congressmen asking them to do amnesty. So I am thinking they can pay for this just like the elite Dem’s.


8 posted on 12/17/2013 4:24:15 PM PST by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
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To: mandaladon
‘EVERY NON-INCARCERATED ADULT CITIZEN GETS A MONTHLY CHECK FROM THE GOVERNMENT’...........Who says liberals aren't stupid?

Is this a trick question?

I'll take a shot

LIBERALS???

9 posted on 12/17/2013 4:25:19 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: mandaladon
Are they crazy???!!! Undocumented workers should get checks, too!

/s

10 posted on 12/17/2013 4:25:40 PM PST by matt1234 (Hitler blamed the Jews. Obama blames the Tea Party.)
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To: mandaladon

Not that new an idea, it was brought up in the 1960’s as GAI, Guaranteed Annual Income and was paid for as stock in companies.

For the privilege of being in business you gave the Government, so many thousands of shares of ‘Common Stock’. Those were issued on a lifetime basis at the ‘age of majority’, upon death the shares reverted back to the Government.

A person could buy individual ‘preferred shares’ to augment their income.

Typical socialist garbage that assumes that the Corporations would ‘always’ make money for them to be fleeced of. Sooner or later you run out of ‘Other peoples money’.


11 posted on 12/17/2013 4:26:04 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: mandaladon

If there can be an accompanying Constitutional amendment prohibiting all other social welfare programs and progressive taxation, I would actually favor he idea. “You get what you get and don’t throw a fit.”


12 posted on 12/17/2013 4:26:31 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: mandaladon

From the genius’s that gave us, “If we would just buy our meat from the store, we could stop hunting animals!”


13 posted on 12/17/2013 4:26:33 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: mandaladon
The free government money would not only solve poverty

yep...all that money wouldn't go to drugs, booze, lottery tickets, etc. (rolling eyes)

14 posted on 12/17/2013 4:26:44 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: mandaladon

Why should we have to settle with merely eliminating poverty. Let’s make everyone rich. Who doesn’t want to be rich after all?


15 posted on 12/17/2013 4:26:58 PM PST by paint_your_wagon
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To: mandaladon

She is resurrecting the old guaranteed annual income which was popular with the 60s radicals and had its original popularity in the depression. “Every man a king,” yelled Huey Long.


16 posted on 12/17/2013 4:27:09 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: mandaladon

This idea goes back to the ‘30’s. It had such political popularity that FDR had to counter it or face running against a populist who was proposing this. That’s how we ended up with Social Security.


17 posted on 12/17/2013 4:27:11 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: mandaladon

Why screw around with half measures, just give everyone a billion dollars.

that way everyone is rich.


18 posted on 12/17/2013 4:27:19 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: mandaladon

The monthly checks are already going out and we’re already going bankrupt. This is just consolidating them into one check, rearranging the deck chairs.


19 posted on 12/17/2013 4:27:39 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: mandaladon

I always thought “Journalism” cirrula was nothing but a collection of crib courses, so I guess basic econ wasn’t on the list, along with any common sense.


20 posted on 12/17/2013 4:27:51 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: Lazamataz

The sooner we get to SHTF, the quicker we can get our Republic back.


21 posted on 12/17/2013 4:28:31 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: mandaladon

how about zero taxpayer funded governent handouts. If you don’t work, you starve. If you starve to death, the poverty problem ends.


22 posted on 12/17/2013 4:28:41 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: mandaladon

Welfare for drug dealers.... scammers of every sort....


23 posted on 12/17/2013 4:28:58 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: mandaladon
Mostly
Snotty
Nonsense
By
Chicks

Source: Michael Savage

24 posted on 12/17/2013 4:29:14 PM PST by matt1234 (Hitler blamed the Jews. Obama blames the Tea Party.)
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To: The Working Man

I posted before I read yours. “Good” ideas never die.


25 posted on 12/17/2013 4:30:33 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: mandaladon

Actually, it makes sense once we realize their plan to lock up all the Bible believers and politically conservatives in labor/re-education camps - the only ones left outside bars will be their kind . . .


26 posted on 12/17/2013 4:30:34 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: mandaladon

McGovern proposed that in 1972....


27 posted on 12/17/2013 4:30:44 PM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Dapper 26

I want a free National Ski Pass.


28 posted on 12/17/2013 4:31:09 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: mandaladon

The problem with this idea is that there are people
in the White House that think this way too.


29 posted on 12/17/2013 4:31:32 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: mandaladon

Would THIS income be TAXED?....


30 posted on 12/17/2013 4:31:39 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: mandaladon

I think that this Krystal Ball is cracked a bit. Might do to rename her “8 Ball”.

I wonder if she is related to Rep. John Boehner, Mr. “No Ball”. Just asking.


31 posted on 12/17/2013 4:31:48 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: mandaladon

See, things aren’t so hard to fix when you look at them the right way. UFB!!!


32 posted on 12/17/2013 4:31:59 PM PST by black_diamond
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To: driftdiver

I want on of those Trillion $ coins.


33 posted on 12/17/2013 4:33:35 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: mandaladon
Other safety net programs are jettisoned to pay for the mincome, and poverty is eliminated.”

I'm actually surprised he purposes to cut other safety net programs...

How will they get the libtards to vote?

34 posted on 12/17/2013 4:34:16 PM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mandaladon

There are no words.


35 posted on 12/17/2013 4:34:26 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: JimSEA

I only remembered it because I just bought a Mega-pack of Mack Reynolds stories. It was one of the ideas he loved and hated at the same time.

It’s like so many of the other drug fueled ideas for utopia that these people never outgrew. As one once famously said: “It’s really such a pity that reality keeps interfering with my dreams of utopia.”


36 posted on 12/17/2013 4:34:44 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: Lazamataz

Laz I agree the faster this things folds the better it will be.


37 posted on 12/17/2013 4:34:57 PM PST by stockpirate (It appears good men have decided to do nothing, so evil is prevailing......)
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To: mandaladon
Too bad Krystal Ball lacks the ability to see America's future if her idea were to be implemented. Her parents should have chosen a more suitable name.
38 posted on 12/17/2013 4:35:08 PM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: mandaladon

If they throw in foodstamps and free healthcare, sign me up.


39 posted on 12/17/2013 4:35:26 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: mandaladon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_income_tax
40 posted on 12/17/2013 4:35:56 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: mandaladon

Well, you can’t have that, but if you’re an American citizen you are entitled to:
a heated kidney shaped pool,
a microwave oven — don’t watch the food cook,
a Dyna-Gym — I’ll personally demonstrate it in the privacy of your own home,
a king-size Titanic unsinkable Molly Brown waterbed with polybendum,
a foolproof plan and an airtight alibi, real simulated Indian jewelry,
a Gucci shoetree,
a year’s supply of antibiotics,
a personally autographed picture of Randy Mantooth, and Bob Dylan’s new unlisted phone number,
a beautifully restored 3rd Reich swizzle stick, Rosemary’s baby,
a dream date in kneepads with Paul Williams,
a new Matador,
a new mastodon,
a Maverick,
a Mustang,
a Montego,
a Merc Montclair,
a Mark IV,
a meteor,
a Mercedes,
an MG, or a Malibu,
a Mort Moriarty,
a Maserati,
a Mac truck,
a Mazda,
a new Monza, or a moped,
a Winnebago — Hell, a herd of Winnebago’s we’re giving ‘em away,
or how about a McCulloch chainsaw,
a Las Vegas wedding,
a Mexican divorce,
a solid gold Kama Sutra coffee pot,
or a baby’s arm holding an apple?


41 posted on 12/17/2013 4:36:16 PM PST by HKMk23 (ditditdit dahdahdah ditditdit)
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To: kaehurowing; Lazamataz; mandaladon

42 posted on 12/17/2013 4:36:41 PM PST by 4Liberty (Mr President 'If you Like your college transcripts...can we see them?')
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To: mandaladon

Let’s think about this.

If we used this to end *all* of the other wealth redistribution programs, and shut down all their various support agencies and structures, this could actually be a net savings to the taxpayer from what we have now.

No more welfare, no Social Security, no disability, no Medicaid or Medicare, just one simple flat - rate payment to every adult citizen.


43 posted on 12/17/2013 4:36:43 PM PST by Terabitten (I'd rather have one Walker than fourteen runners.)
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To: mountn man

I love that Bill Gates nor Larry Ellison have no more than I have.


44 posted on 12/17/2013 4:37:03 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: mandaladon

I am on board with the magic eight ball. I think that the min wage should be equal to the salary of a congressman.

It’s only fair.

I also think that, to be fair, the Cubs should win the next World Series.


45 posted on 12/17/2013 4:37:45 PM PST by logitech (It is time.)
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To: mandaladon

Yes, they are stupid. Half of our population places on the LEFT side of the Bell Curve, and we’re surprised that they’re stupid?


46 posted on 12/17/2013 4:37:46 PM PST by abclily
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To: mandaladon

I don’t need you to send me a check...I’ll just keep what I’m sending you in taxes, that will be my portion of the check I would otherwise get.


47 posted on 12/17/2013 4:37:51 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Lazamataz

I’m kinda where you are on this. I’m retired early (age 54). Send me the money. Lower medicare to age 50. Someone will pay for it. I don’t care who. I’ll pickup supplemental insurance (or just pay the diff). The young people can have cheaper premiums if us old guys aren’t in the obamacare mix. And they can have all the free birth control they want. I don’t care. BTW.....Will the government do a direct deposit in the Caymans?


48 posted on 12/17/2013 4:38:13 PM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: Paladin2

I want a free National Ski Pass.

You want it, you got it.
Feel free to ski whenever and where ever you want.
I’d be careful of skiing on the bus though someone
might take advantage of you.


49 posted on 12/17/2013 4:38:22 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: The Working Man

LOL That was the 60s okay “until reality got in its way.”


50 posted on 12/17/2013 4:39:20 PM PST by JimSEA
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