Posted on 12/10/2013 11:52:32 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
If this is true, why isn’t he in jail? They can’t promote him while he’s in the penitentiary.
Don’t forget however that courage needs to be learned... and pride is really a piss-poor substitute for it. (Pardon my French.)
I couldn’t agree more.
The draft (in civil war or Vietnam or ww2) filled the ranks with folks that did NOT want to be there.
I know first hand, those slackers I could point out in my service time. I see it in their eyes and lives now.
The only pride they have, is wearing patches, and telling stories about how they were all tunnel rats. Heck, I think everyone in our VFW was a tunnel rat, or a sniper.
No one worked in transportation or logistics. No one was just merely infantry, they are all airborne rangers or green beret if you will buy them a .25 cent beer in a plastic cup.
I don’t even think you’ll find an Engineer in our whole lot of the VFW.
But you are absolutely correct.
There’s something to be said for a volunteer model of staffing forces. I really am not that hard on the draftees who were simply not ready for it, during a time when the issue was not even remotely tied to national peril. I say grant them their PTSD benefits and don’t argue.
But that model got kind of wopperjawed when the recruiting started, again, to emphasize pride rather than courage.
Well. I *did* avoid Rear Admiral (Lower Half)...
A Navy Lt with teenage children says a lot. First, he is a screw up or he would hold a rank much higher at his age. Also, he should be made to walk the plank.
In a way, I have empathy for you thoughts, but those of us who volunteered have very little respect for those who waited for Cronkite to read those numbers off, then bitched and moaned every second they were enlisted, then came home and became welfare victims.
You could see it in their character, they were not team players, and you knew some folks would just sell you down the river in a heartbeat.
There was a genuine distrust between draftee’s and those who volunteered.
And, I guess for me, it still lingers on.
Our Legion is mostly volunteers, while the VFW here is mostly draftee’s.
I guess I still harbor ill feelings.
My Dad joined up the day after Pearl Harbor. He had no use for Westpoint graduates who were his superior but were cowards.
I had no use for draftee’s who were more concerned about getting their 3 strikes and out, then actually getting the job done.
I’m funny that way.
and what happened to this judge? He should be jailed too.
You have a very good point.
You didn’t have much choice about it and neither did they.
I’d say grudges are wasted energy in any case. Wishing your enemy the best you can, does a lot to defuse grudges. And that was really reflected, at least till recently, in the US conquest model. Once a territory surrendered, it was then helped back to its feet in a constructive way. It’s these non-surrender peace actions that are the biggest problem. IMHO.
As opposed to lil’Miss Betty willing to jump right in with a guilty until proven innocent approach.
I don’t know either way about the guy, but as pointed out, CPS has a long way to go to be credible.
On the contrary. With his years of service, he was most likely a Chief who put in an LDO package and got picked up. This is highly competitive and the Navy doesn't usually commission screw-ups. As far as walking the plank, you've watched too many pirate movies. Anyways, the Navy investigated the incident and cleared him.
“My views as expressed on this forum are my own and in no way should they be considered official statements of the United States Navy”
That’s a good thing.
Need to issue blow-up women to those Navy dudes.
I guess I would agree with that.
Now we nation build without a surrender.
Bad mojo. It’s just a payoff to “play nice”.
It doesn’t work.
I guess I always assumed that after 20 years a competent officer would achieve a higher rank than looey, and that incompetent officers would be weeded out. But then I’m not military.
There was supposedly a confession in this, but social workers can be devilish and devious too. The Navy sounds like they did their due diligence, and what more can you ask if there is no smoking gun to show. It may be fated to remain a disagreement. And such is the imperfect state of our mortal coil. For him to get the bennies of the post might be better for the daughter anyhow in the long run.
Good points.
It sounds like this case involved a marital dispute/divorce.
About 25 years ago my best friend was involved in a messy divorce. His wife dropped the nuclear bomb of accusing him of molesting their two young daughters, getting them to go along with the story.
I didn’t believe it then, and I still don’t. He was utterly devastated, even more by the accusation and rift it created with his girls than by the process itself.
15 years later both girls admitted they had been cajoled into the accusations by Mom and reconciled with their loving father.
OTOH, I’m with you. If the guy did it, I would have no problem with a death penalty. But accusation does not equal guilt.
Really, if a headline deserved to get a [bracketed] comment it would be this one.
I.e. Naval Officer [Allegedly] Admits...
It’s misleading otherwise. There’s a genuine dispute here.
Not entirely sure what was admitted. All tangled up in legalistic definitions of various degrees of sexual abuse.
I have very little tolerance for those who abuse children, but what he “admitted to” and what happened may not be exactly the same thing.
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