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This all has to be deliberate so that everyone would be crying-out for single payer. Nothing else makes sense.
1 posted on 12/09/2013 7:29:02 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Well, another possibility is that the Obama-ites who wrote the law just took the cost-shifting too damn far in one fell swoop. You can only pluck so much off the goose before it squawks.


2 posted on 12/09/2013 7:31:54 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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TANSTAAFL!


3 posted on 12/09/2013 7:33:53 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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RE :”For policies offered in the federal exchange, as in many states, the annual deductible often tops $5,000 for an individual and $10,000 for a couple. …
Mark A. York, a 60-year-old freelance writer in Hailey, Idaho, said he began shopping after he received a letter saying that his current insurance policy would be canceled because it did not meet the requirements of the health care law. In the exchange, he said, he found policies with premiums similar to what he is now paying, $440 a month, but “the deductibles were so high — $4,000 to $6,000 a year — that it defeats the purpose of having insurance.” … “

Dont forget the few #s of doctors in network.

Obama said they would offer affordable premiums, not that the insurance would actually pay your medical bills.

But dont forget the free birth control and no pre-existing conditions. No longer can insurance companies take your Obamacare away. No lifetime caps.

4 posted on 12/09/2013 7:35:11 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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RE :”This all has to be deliberate so that everyone would be crying-out for single payer. Nothing else makes sense. “

When does that start?

Right now they are crying out for Dems to be recalled,

Where's the polls saying Americans trust Dems to impose single payer?

5 posted on 12/09/2013 7:36:53 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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And that penalty money is money that is coming out of the private sector so the economy will slow even more. The Opportunity Costs on Obamacare are horrific. The Democrat party - A culture of lying, thievery, death and incompetence.


6 posted on 12/09/2013 7:37:14 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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So the ACA was based on the premise that it is possible to allow people who didn’t have any health insurance, let alone health insurance that paid most of their health-care expenses, to get such insurance; that people with high expected health costs could have others pay them; that monetary costs of health insurance would go down; and that no one else with prior insurance arrangements would have to give up anything. I suppose this was supposed to come out of some magic box full of outrageous insurance-company profits and “administrative waste.” How did we get to be such a credulous country?


7 posted on 12/09/2013 7:39:17 AM PST by untenured
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Why would single payer system lower costs?
I can show reasons why the costs would be much higher.


8 posted on 12/09/2013 7:44:48 AM PST by americanbychoice3
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Even a single payer plan won’t change the economy of the situation. You can’t add 40 million people, tons of new benefits, and waivers galore without it affecting the costs.


13 posted on 12/09/2013 7:59:02 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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This all has to be deliberate so that everyone would be crying-out for single payer. Nothing else makes sense.

Obama is just responding to his corporate paymasters, the same ones who are pushing amnesty and this:

Obama Faces Backlash Over New Corporate Powers In Secret Trade Deal

Even if we went to single payer, the insurance companies would still profit. For example, nine out of ten Medicare (single payer system) recipients have supplemental insurance.

16 posted on 12/09/2013 8:00:58 AM PST by kabar
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uh, and how cheap does anyone think “single payer” is going to be?

folks need to figure out that “single payer” is NOT a euphemism for “someone else pays”


22 posted on 12/09/2013 8:47:31 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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The deductibles on CT policy’s are misleading. They are a better deal than they look. The policy covers in full many costs that would have been part of the deductible on previous policies.the Obama care policies have a high deductible but it allies to costs that I,m not likely to incur.they are like a cross between full coverage and major medical.


26 posted on 12/09/2013 9:11:57 AM PST by Raycpa
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so, does this mean Sandra Fluke would have to pay the deductible to get her birth control for free??


32 posted on 12/09/2013 9:56:29 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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exactly


33 posted on 12/09/2013 9:58:24 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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