It’s Not a Trap: On Republicans and the Fred Upton bill.

National Review ^ | 11/14/2013 | Jeffrey H. Anderson

[sickoflibs]

RE :”What Republicans should do now is to insist that 0care cover illegal aliens.”

That makes me laugh but I proposed a related idea for amnesty, which seems to be dead fortunately.

The Senate amnesty bill exempts illegals from Obamacare but that would give employers a effective tax cut to hire them over us.

To be consistent with Rubios promises the amnesty bill should have required that illegals who apply meet all the Obamacare mandates without any government $$$ to help pay for it.

That would have killed the amnesty bill because few or none could comply.

I actually had a few here who argued for the constitutional rights of illegals against the idea.

[M Kehoe]

The democRATs/progressives/marxists/socialists made their bed, let them sleep in it.

Note to Republicans: not one of you should do anything to fix this disaster called 0bamacare. If you do, we will primary you.

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[sickoflibs]

I am of the opinion that the GOP could propose bills that are popular and look compassionate but weaken Obamacare, the Obamacare that only Dems will own.

only because of this situation Dems got themselves in.

Like when Dems pass minimum wage increase, very few blame them for the associated unemployment. But they score points for compassion for it.

Fight like Dems do, to win.

[privatedrive]

“They should do “nothing” to save or aid the bill in any way, shape or form.”

Agreed - but voting against the bill is NOT ‘doing nothing’

They will blame us for voting down the fix!!

The only way to ensure that the dems/libs will continue to own it is to abstain from voting for anything less than repeal. Don’t vote NO. ABSTAIN!

[Servant of the Cross]

And let's face it, the only thing good about Fred Upton is his niece........

Obligatory .... like CZ-J and MoDo ...

[mmichaels1970]

the GOP could propose bills that are popular and look compassionate

They lose absolutely every time they try that. Just like trying to look good with the media. They cannot fight like the dems. The dems own the media which means the dems own the message.

They need to let this thing crash and burn and place absolutely no fingers on it. If anything they should be insisting that this law should be and should have been implemented as written.

[sickoflibs]

Dems pass minimum wage and when people lose those low paying jobs they blame the rich and corporsations and say it shows we need even MORE food stamps and tax credits and head start and Obamaphones for those unemployed victims of greed. (and medicaid)

Only a small % of Americans seem to understand why minimum wage would kill jobs.

[drypowder]

obzocare is on the ropes and NOW is the time to finish it off. Obozocare is a huge hammer for the Adolf obozo and the commie dems to complete their remaking of America so if the law is not repealed in this volley of magnificent failures, it will mature into being the American health industry destroyer and social controlling plague on the US it was designed to be.

[Lakeshark]

The only good thing about Fred Upton is:

And yes, CEW, you CAN borrow that line.....:-)

[sickoflibs]

RE :”They lose absolutely every time they try that. Just like trying to look good with the media. They cannot fight like the dems. The dems own the media which means the dems own the message.”

I saw them lose 2012 after they repealed it 40 times in house.

Then October 1st we were told Obama would blink and defund Obamacare if the government shut down and it only seemed to strenthen him amd make him bolder.

I notice Mark Levin and Rush are suddenly quoting polls when justa few weeks ago during shutdown they kept saying that polls are irrelevent.

Fight like Dems, they pass minimum wage and successfully blame the rich for the unemployment, and look compassionate for it too.

[privatedrive]

Full Definition of LAISSEZ-FAIRE

1) a doctrine opposing governmental interference in economic affairs beyond the minimum necessary for the maintenance of peace and property rights

2) a philosophy or practice characterized by a usually deliberate abstention from direction or interference especially with individual freedom of choice and action

[Sioux-san]

When I found out it was Upton behind the law for those horrible lightbulbs & GWB signed it, that’s when I knew we have NO ONE TO TRUST IN OUR GOVT. GE & China thank you — UPTON the IDIOT. Send them all back home. We would be better off if Congress met one month a year with the sole purpose of de-activating the damage they have done to us all. Revolution is long overdue.

[Servant of the Cross]

no ... bigger fool than Fred Upton.

This one says it all and puts the analysis of this Upton bill to rest ...

Fred Upton Supports the Landrieu Obamacare Fix. So Does Barack Obama

[caprock]

I don't remember outright attempts at repealing ozombiecare, but the recent gov’t shutdown was due in no small part to defunding O-care.

Right now, o-commie is a PROVEN LIAR in many ways; so, the timing of repealing o-disaster-care could not be better.

[caprock]

Couldn't DISAGREE more!

Not ONE Republican voted for the infinite-disaster (O-care); so, why go within a few galaxies of the monstrous pile of dung? The world finally sees the empty suit as the complete LIAR he always has been, and his commie-crat party with their propaganda media are solely responsible for it all. Let the whole group of evil, worthless liars OWN the train-wreck they've created.

[privatedrive]

“— Jeffrey H. Anderson is executive director of the newly formed 2017 Project, which is working to advance a conservative reform agenda.”

Maybe his heart’s in the right place, but I’d sure love to play poker with him.

[stocksthatgoup]

Keep your plan for a year

[SoConPubbie]

Haven’t we tried that over 37 times already?

No, empty, symbolic, resolutions by GOP House members that do nothing but spout empty rhetoric are not attempts to repeal, but to manipulate voters into thinking you are doing something about the problem while doing nothing.

The GOP Led house had the opportunity lately to defund Obamacare (A.K.A. Real action to stop it) and fund the rest of the government and that whole process just clearly showed who was really against Obamacare and who wasn't.

So, there has only been one REAL attempt. Everything else was just hot-air.

[SoConPubbie]

I saw them lose 2012 after they repealed it 40 times in house.

Symbolic resolutions, with no teeth, with no legal binding authority, is nothing but empty rhetoric meant to lie to voters that they are against something, when they really are not.

If the House, of which you are referring to, had really been against Obamacare, they would have defunded it, while funding the rest of the Government as Senator Ted Cruz was pushing.

They did not, when given the opportunity.

They are nothing but lying politicians.

[GeronL]

during the election campaign last year John Beohner said ACA was the law of the land and would be funded.