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Scranton police/fire unions get $21M judgment against city; may seize assets
Scranton Times Tribune ^ | September 20, 2013 | By Jim Lockwood

Posted on 09/21/2013 2:20:34 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

Scranton's police and fire unions have received a judgment against the city for the overdue $21 million that the city owes the unions from a landmark arbitration ruling.

The money was due July 2, but the city has not yet paid and is still seeking borrowing or selling an asset to honor the bill, Mayor Chris Doherty said.

But the judgment means the unions now can seize city assets and sell them to collect what is owed, said city solicitor Paul Kelly and the unions' attorney, Thomas Jennings.

"Whenever a judgment is granted, you can go to the sheriff and levy against assets," Mr. Kelly said. "They (the unions) can sell city assets. They can sell firetrucks, garbage trucks - they can sell City Hall."

That might sound far-fetched, but maybe not.

Mr. Jennings said, "Do I want to take firetrucks and City Hall? Of course not. But would I do it if I have to? In a New York minute."

That the city owes the money is not in dispute. The city did not contest the judgment sought and received Monday by the unions in Lackawanna County Court, Mr. Kelly said. Judge Michael Barrasse signed orders entering judgments against the city of $10.4 million for the fire union and $10.5 million for the police unions.

The judgment is the latest event in the epic labor saga between the mayor and unions that was fought against the backdrop of the city's longtime designation as financially distressed under state Act 47. Years of legal fights came to a head in October 2011, when the state Supreme Court issued its landmark ruling in favor of the unions. The city initially estimated the back-pay arbitration awards at $17 million, but an audit completed a few months ago pegged the figure at $20.9 million.

In the wake of the landmark ruling, both sides reached a settlement last summer that called for the unions giving the city a full year to obtain the court-awarded payment interest-free. After July, however, late damages of 6 percent - which equates to $100,000 per month, started kicking in, and the city now owes $200,000 for July and August, on top of the $20.9 million.

And the clock is ticking.

The city has been trying to raise the cash through a private placement bond to pay the unions, but so far has been unsuccessful. Asked where that initiative stands, Mr. Doherty said, "We're moving right along."

As an alternative plan, the city also is considering a sale of the Scranton Sewer Authority, city officials said.

Could the unions instead sell the sewer authority out from under the city?

"I haven't given it a moment's thought. But if that's where I've got to go to get the money, that's what I've got to do," Mr. Jennings said.

"You go for the big assets first. Why would I go for ballpoint pens? Why would I not start with the most valuable assets."

Taxes that are collected also are an asset that perhaps could be levied by the unions, he said.

"I don't want to do this, but after 10 years (of legal battles) and giving the city a year to get the money together, I'm out of patience and so are my clients," Mr. Jennings said. "I'm going to do whatever I reasonably have to do to get the money for my clients. I don't have a war plan and the truth is I don't want to do any of it."

During City Council's meeting Thursday, Councilman Pat Rogan addressed the judgment issue. Referencing the state Department of Community and Economic Development having helped fight the city's labor dispute in court that the city ultimately lost, Mr. Rogan said of the judgment: "It's money that's due to the workers. We can't question that. They are due that money.

"Unfortunately, Mayor Doherty gambled on the DCED and they lost. Now the city is coming up with a $21 million hole just for this one item. That's money that was due many years ago."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: activistjudges; bankruptcy; scranton; unions; unionthugs; whosnext
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Unions: Scranton delenda est
1 posted on 09/21/2013 2:20:34 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Do they need any paper?


2 posted on 09/21/2013 2:23:30 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Public employees are like hoards of locusts. They won’t stop until they’ve eaten it all.


3 posted on 09/21/2013 2:23:59 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Judge Michael Barasse is an open enemy of the USA.

So when the unions “sell” everything, then what? Scranton turns into another Detroit?


4 posted on 09/21/2013 2:24:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Public sector unions should never have been allowed to exist. Even Franklin Delano Roosevelt knew they were a continuing criminal enterprise looking for a place to happen.


5 posted on 09/21/2013 2:25:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: Olog-hai

Cities have been declaring bankruptcy since the 1830’s at least. The orgional argument against that was that the city could always simply raise taxes. Since the people who paid the taxes presumably benefited from the money their government spent, or were complicit in the spending because they elected the government and then did not fire it.

The only purpose for Scranton now is to serve as an ugly abject lesson to the rest of the country. The more damage the unions do, the more of a lesson they become.

But how will the city firefighters (union) continue on the job with no trucks? The same with the city’s cops (union).


6 posted on 09/21/2013 2:32:02 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: DeaconBenjamin

I wonder what the un-intended consequences of decisions like these will be?

Another question is can the citizens of a community like a city use the voting process to dissolve the bonds between the ‘entity’ of a city and themselves?

In any case I’m coming to the realization that perhaps the concept of cities as we have seen them grow in the last two-hundred years has become a very flawed one. Where a very small cabal of people can behave like the ‘lords of the manor’ in the feudal period.


7 posted on 09/21/2013 2:52:23 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: The Working Man

Unions are going to seize property owned by the taxpayers.

Fire them all.


8 posted on 09/21/2013 2:54:02 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Simple - turn the “keys” of the city over to the union and tell them, okay, you own it, you run it.


9 posted on 09/21/2013 2:54:19 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Sell off every Police Department structure.


10 posted on 09/21/2013 2:57:09 PM PDT by NoLibZone (The reason we are where we are today is the belief that posting on a website will fix the nation.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

The union corporation must be made to pay all the bad shooting awards paid in civil litigation.


11 posted on 09/21/2013 3:01:01 PM PDT by NoLibZone (The reason we are where we are today is the belief that posting on a website will fix the nation.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Yet another example of "promise them anything/everything", and then when you can't "pay the piper", just say "oops"...what frosts me is, ALL ALONG I'm sure the promisers knew that eventually the promises couldn't be kept.

So now, what are they going to do?

Perhaps a federal "bankruptcy bail-out"? So my taxes can be diverted to Scranton? My own Ohio community needs all the tax money it can get, and I need all the money I can get to make it in this economy...this "top down" city/county/state/federal tax burden on anyone who makes ANY money at all has got to stop!!

/ rant

12 posted on 09/21/2013 3:06:16 PM PDT by 88keys (I'm sorry, sir, I don't fit in a handbasket...)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Ohhhh c’mon.. Those cops and fireman have LOTS of Jet Skis, Harleys, Boats/Yachts, Motorhomes, vacation homes & cabins, season tickets, luxury cars, fine food and Rolex’s to pay for!


13 posted on 09/21/2013 3:07:31 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: COBOL2Java

I was hoping an “Office” reference would be made!


14 posted on 09/21/2013 3:43:04 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: DeaconBenjamin

A fine example why unions are a communist style disgrace to America.


15 posted on 09/21/2013 4:30:43 PM PDT by AKinAK (Keep your powder dry pilgrim.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

It’s probably a safe bet that property taxes will skyrocket. It’s not free money.


16 posted on 09/21/2013 5:10:52 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: bgill
It’s probably a safe bet that property values will plummet. People will not be able to get market value when they leave.
17 posted on 09/21/2013 7:05:50 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin (A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're NOT talking real money)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

They already own and run Scranton.


18 posted on 09/21/2013 7:33:05 PM PDT by free me (Do it.....Sign & Endorse today!!! www.dontfundobamacare.com)
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To: free me

Perhaps unofficially, what I am suggesting is that they be given the responsibility of running a city.


19 posted on 09/21/2013 8:06:56 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Oh I know, I’m saying there would be little difference between the two.

In November Scranton will elect the public employee unions hand picked candidate for mayor.

Bankruptcy is the only out for Scranton.


20 posted on 09/22/2013 5:24:52 AM PDT by free me (Do it.....Sign & Endorse today!!! www.dontfundobamacare.com)
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