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Fort Hood Judge Bans Evidence of Shooter's 'Jihadi' Motives
ABC News via Yahoo News ^ | 19 August 2013 | RUSSELL GOLDMAN

Posted on 08/19/2013 4:54:26 PM PDT by magellan

Lawyers representing the family members of those killed and injured in the Ft. Hood shooting rampage were outraged today when an Army judge limited prosecutors from introducing evidence, including emails to a known Al Qaeda operative, that would establish accused shooter Maj. Nidal Hasan's "jihadi" motives.

The judge's rulings could inhibit the ability of the victims' families to claim in a civil suit that the shootings were an act of terror. Federal lawyers involved in the civil suit claim that the people shot during Hasan's murderous rage were victims of workplace violence, a designation that could sharply limit the damages in a civil suit.

"This is first degree mass murder case and motive is absolutely relevant to prove premeditation," said Neal Sher, a lawyer representing many of the victims and their family members in a separate civil suit against the government.

The judge, Col. Tara Osborn, ruled today that prosecutors could not mention Hasan's correspondence with Alwaki, an American born al Qaeda recruiter and organizer. Osborn also barred prosecutors from mentioning Hassan's interest in seeking conscientious objector status and drawing parallels to a 2003 incident in which another Muslim American soldier attacked U.S. troops in Kuwait, according to the Associated Press.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bogus; forthood; jihad; workplaceviolence
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This is insane. Motive matters in any murder trial, especially if trying to prove premeditation.
1 posted on 08/19/2013 4:54:26 PM PDT by magellan
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To: magellan

One hypothesis is conspiracy.

The other is an attempt to prevent precise, clear
exposure of those traitors in the military
and Obama Administration
working with al Qaeda
to help murder Americans and America before the fact.


2 posted on 08/19/2013 4:56:48 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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I wonder if Eric Holder will pick up the case after the verdict to see if Hasan committed any ‘Civil Rights violations’?


3 posted on 08/19/2013 4:57:29 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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The judge and prosecutors are on the side of hiding jihad, this is amazing - he doesn’t need a defense when they are both on his side.


4 posted on 08/19/2013 4:58:48 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: magellan

Well I guess our darling Tara will no doubt get a promotion and nice pay raise and probably a bonus to boot. Isn’t it great that the ‘elite’ follow orders so well?


5 posted on 08/19/2013 4:59:11 PM PDT by Nifster
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What other motive could there have been, that the “judge” would allow... and one which did NOT point to islamofascism?

This is the judge taking orders from JAG on high... ie. obamaumao the moosleems friend. Him and holder.


6 posted on 08/19/2013 4:59:49 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Obama obviously has made it clear to the judge that he doesn’t want this trial to expose this crime as anything but workplace violence. Too much evidence of motive could make him look like an idiot for denying this was an act of terrorism.


7 posted on 08/19/2013 5:02:22 PM PDT by Spok
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According to the article, the judge ruled the evidence was too old. It has to be relevant to the shooter's state of mind at the time of the murders. She's running a tight trial to have an air tight record on appeal.

What a lot of these pro se nutjobs will do is do the trial pro se and then bring in counsel for an appeal when they are convicted.

IIRC, the perp admitted jihadi motives in his opening statement.

8 posted on 08/19/2013 5:03:18 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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The judge, Col. Tara Osborn

problem > nutshell

flame away > past caring

9 posted on 08/19/2013 5:03:19 PM PDT by tomkat
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Didn’t we just go through this with the ****** saint ?


10 posted on 08/19/2013 5:06:52 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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"According to the article, the judge ruled the evidence was too old. It has to be relevant to the shooter's state of mind at the time of the murders. She's running a tight trial to have an air tight record on appeal."

The shooting happened November 5, 2009.

The emails were from December 2008 and June 2009:

Reference

Four months hardly seems "old" for murder or terrorism.

11 posted on 08/19/2013 5:09:50 PM PDT by magellan
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According to the article some of the stuff goes back to 2003.

This guy is going to be convicted - this ruling won't change that.

I'm very sympathetic to the victims, but the purpose of this trial is not to prove their civil case. Their lawyer can subpoena these documents and introduce them in his case.

12 posted on 08/19/2013 5:14:52 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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According to the article some of the stuff goes back to 2003.

This guy is going to be convicted - this ruling won't change that.

I'm very sympathetic to the victims, but the purpose of this trial is not to prove their civil case. Their lawyer can subpoena these documents and introduce them in his case.

13 posted on 08/19/2013 5:14:57 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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I wonder what the judge’s muslim name is.


14 posted on 08/19/2013 5:15:49 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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All the evidence; hell, even the whole incident is old; what's it matter now?

15 posted on 08/19/2013 5:18:13 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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What possible reasoning or excuse could the judge give for such a decision? It is indefensible.


16 posted on 08/19/2013 5:19:35 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record—Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

#16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm


17 posted on 08/19/2013 5:21:11 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: tomkat

I’ll never flame you for that opinion!


18 posted on 08/19/2013 5:23:35 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Holder and Obama called it work place violence. Never did I hear of anyone charged with not just murder, but; many killings of our soldiers sitting in a cell or anywhere collecting salary and bennies. Hell, we have an Army Suitability Evaluation Board, too. That Board could have thrown this clown out with zip I believe as he is an MC major, and; many do not even have 8 years of service. Regardless, paying this b-while our troops get zip-sure looks bad and turns my guts. I wish I had been the article 32 officer and had some insight/pull with the Ft Hood CG or even Post CO. The Post CO cannot care much as his career is fini. O-6’s going no where are made post CO for their last assignment.


19 posted on 08/19/2013 5:24:38 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: GeronL

Where or when did women flood the JAG Corps?


20 posted on 08/19/2013 5:27:04 PM PDT by Lumper20
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